K8N Neo2-FX CPU compatibility question

Thinking about upgrading my Athlon 64 to a dual core, and can't seem to find out anywhere if the CPU I want to buy is compatible with my mobo (K8N-Neo2-FX). I don't see why not, but you never know. I'm looking at an Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Toledo (Model # ADA3800DAA5CD). The MSI compatibility chart doesn't even seem to know that this CPU exists (the only Toledo cores it lists are the 2x1MB L2 cache models, and this is a 2x512KB). I don't want to buy the CPU if it won't work - anybody know if this combo will work out okay? Thanks for any help anyone can give me.

Thanks guys! I guess I'll go ahead and get my chip. One other question that's arisen, though. I'm also looking at an eVGA 7800GS AGP GPU upgrade. From what I can see this card is BIG (I'm talking physical size). It looks like the HSF on the chipset of the Neo2-FX is pretty much right beside the AGP slot - does anyone know if this GPU will fit on this board, or does that HSF get in the way? Thanks again!

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K8N Neo2-F Hardware RAID question

Hi guys,
Question for you. I have a Hitrachi 160GB SATA drive and I installed x64. After all is good and well I went out and got a second identical drive. I would now like to have these two drives Raided with the hardware raid. When I go into the RAID setup after POST, I can see both, add both, and mirror both. When I reboot, all I get is a post and it just stops after showing that box where it lists everything in the computer and what has what IRQ's. No error messages saying no boot drive, no system disk, etc. I switch it back and I can boot with the one drive. I also noticed during the RAID config, it asks me if I want to erase the drive. I always say no because I'm scared that it will erase the primary drive that I need to keep and not the new one for mirroring. Can anyone help me or confirm I'm doing this right. Thank you very much in advance.
Matt
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-AMD 64 4200+ and fan/heatsink that came with it - NO OVERCLOCK (YET)
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-ASPIRE ATX-AS520W BLACK ATX 520W Power Supply 115/230 V CB IEC 950/ TUV EN 60950/ UL 1950/ CSA 950
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You windows installation don't have the nvraid drivers loaded sou you won't be able to boot that windows installation
with the xp64 disk put in a enabled raid array .
But perhaps you can fool the system by doing this .
Leave the xp64 HD as is (just as a regular sata say at sata 1 )
Connect the new disk to the other sata controller , say sata 3 ( as they are controlled in pairs )
Set sata 3 as raid enabled and create a raid-1 array in the nvidia raidbios with just this single drive in it .
Boot windows xp64 from the normal enabled xp-HD and it should detect new hardware is added and ask for drivers .
Install the nvidia raid drivers and reboot when asked .
Then check if you have raid manager and raid drivers enabled in the windows installation .
After this point you can proceed to do the thing you first tried .(but without clearing the disk)
Delete the workaround fake raid you made with the new disk .
Shut down and move the hd-connectors again so that you have the two drives either at sata 1+2 or sata 3+4 .
Make a new array that includes the xp installation with only this disk in it , leave the other one free .
Try to boot the system .
If it boots you use nvraid manager in windows to add the second drive and let the array rebuild (sync drives )
Note that rebuilding take several hours to complete .
Look in the nvraid user guide for details .
To fully understand the nvidia raid it's wise to read this from start to finish a couple of times ,
and to have a hardcopy of it printed out.
A copy of the nvraid userguide rev.20 here :
ftp://ftp.tyan.com/manuals/m_NVRAID_Users_Guide_v20.pdf

K8n neo2 heatsink and ram question

Hi there
i am planning to buy a whole new rig soon and the mobo id like to buy is the k8n neo2...
From what i have found using the search function, OCZ ram seems to work fine with all msi a64 mobos, so this shouldnt be a problem anymore i guess...
(ram = 2 x 512MB OCZ PC3700 EB Platinum Edition)
What i couldnt really find via the search function was which cooler is the best buy fot ose on the neo2 platinum...
Im thinking of a thermalright SLK-948U but i dont see any the K8N neo2 on the motherboard compatibility list :s
Since the list isnt updated that often, it might be possible that the heatsink IS compatible with this mobo and thats why im asking
is there anybody who has this combo or knows if its (not) working?
thx in advance :D

SLK948 works great on the NEO2 - i have one on my board and theres no fitting problem at all.

K8N Neo2 OC 3500 Newcastle questions.

Sorry I had to post guys, I know you have seen a thousand of these but...
I have done some forum searching and could not find the answers I was looking for.
first my system specs
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AMD Retail 64 3500 Newcastle
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Antec 440w PS
1: Why am I getting the error "Warning! Now system is in safe mode. Please reset overclocking features in the setup menu" for very minor changes to the FSB or CPU voltage settings? If I hit f1 to continue, windows will load but all the settings I have made are back at the defualt position.
2: After I do make a OC change and save the setting it could take 45 to 60 seconds to post or actually load the BIOS. Is this normal?
3: I have tried to use the Dynamic OC that came with the BIOS. Any of the settings that actually boot to windows do not register any changes with the CoreCenter application or CPUz. Is this normal as well?
Again sorry for the Post guys, perhaps after I get these issues resolved we can discuss more important topics like "should I migrate to DFI" yada yada 8)

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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46730
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43033

A CPU compatibility question for the P35 Neo-F

Hello.
I was considering buying a P35 Neo-F to go along with an e5200.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130095
However after going through the comments it seems the e5200 may require a bios flash to work. I found MSI's CPU compatibility list (http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=prodpage2&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=170&cat3_no=2) but it doesn't list a P35 Neo-F. The P35 Neo, while sharing the same picture as the Neo-F, doesn't list the bios versions mentioned in the Newegg comments and on other parts of the internet. Can anyone help me clear up this confusion?

I swapped my 533mhz ram for one test stick of 667mhz and it now has monitor output. It wont accept input from my USB keyboard so I'm using an old PS/2. It gives me the option of switching to post or going to a bios setup menu. They both bring me to the same page (not sure what this is, post?) giving me my bios version (1.7), cpu info, ram info, saying USB Controllers are loaded, and telling me to press F11 for a boot menu. At this point my keyboards become unresponsive, though interestingly if I plug in a USB keyboard it's LEDs will light up.
Assuming this behavior is all normal for an unsupported CPU I could install my Pentium D long enough to flash the bios. There are some major problems with this:
I don't have any spare thermal paste. I can't use my e5200 heatsink with my Pentium D and I'm afraid of having to reseat the heatsink onto the e5200 without new paste.
The Pentium D heatsink either appears to be a BTX design or a Dell proprietary design and wont fit into this motherboard. I have considered simply placing the heatsink ontop the processor just long enough to be able to flash the bios. On one hand it wont be doing anything really intensive and creating alot of heat, but on the other it is notorious for being hot and I don't want to damage it or have it shut down while I'm mid bios update.
If I really need to I could bother my neighbor for some thermal paste, he may very well have some.
I very much appreciate your advice.

K8N Neo2-F/Athlon 64 question

Hi:
This may not properly belong here, but then again, it may.
Just built a system around the K8N Neo2-F (1.9 bios). The processor is an Athlon64 3200+ (Venice). To the best of my knowledge, this processor has a 2G clock speed; yet when I do any number of benchmarks, it reports as 1G. The exception to this is AMDs own clock speed tool.
Is there a reason this is happening? Perhaps a BIOS setting that I'm unaware of? I know there are some things that I'm not providing here to help people diagnose the problem, but I don't know what those could be. Let me know and I'll give as much data as I can.
Oh, yeah, the multiplier is set to 5x; that's as high as it goes.
Thanks,
Doug

Quote from: kakarocht on 04-October-05, 13:34:30
what are you trying do actually???
Just get some information. I wondered why my processor was being reported as having a 1Ghz speed. It was the Cool'n'quiet. It probably would've reported a higher speed had it been under a heavier load.
Ok, I am trying to make incremental improvements in the speed of the machine. The memory is at 2T by default; I think setting it to 1T could help. But being conservative by nature, I do wonder if I run the risk of destabilizing the computer by doing that.

MSI k8n neo2 and cpu vcore...

Dear All,
I just check out with core cell my vcore and i find it @ 1.5v ... but a64 .09 should have 1.4v? I also tryied to set vcore in bios at 1.4v
but in windows i always find 1.5
I check it with ntune and core cell...
What happens?
tnx

Use cpu-z from www.cpuid.com to check the voltage .
The mobo bios may still autodetect winchester to 1.5v , if thats the case change
cpu_vid from startup to 1.4v .

K8N Neo2 Platinum & 6800GT/Ultra question...

OK, my rig is in my sig and I no some ppl have issues with 6800 + Neo2 plat.
I have the 6200 softmodded to a 6600, does that mean if I want to upgrade to a 6800 I wouldnt have issues or is there stil a big chance?
Thats all.
Thanks for any reply's
J0hn

6800GT offer much better value and will O/C to Ultra stock speeds or more. Your using AGP and over here (UK) AGP 6800GT have just come down in price. You can pick them up (stock 256DDR) from £215 -/+ £235, Ultra's £295 -/+ £350 (7800 have forced the drop). But not in PCI-E though just AGP which is wired as it looks like PCI-E users are getting a raw deal, as PCI-E just offers SLI over AGP at present. No game has used the bandwith that AGP X8 offers. So PCI-E has no real advantage (SLI only) I upgraded to a new spec, 3 weeks ago and when for the 6600GT due the cost performance. Its about what you want to play and how long you intend/wish to use the card. If your running games 1280x1024 - 1600x1200 + then the 6800GT will give you good/better frame rates (than a 6600GT). Below 1280 1024 the 6800GT offers a bit more over the 6600GT (depending on app/game) but @ a cost. At the end of the day its really about how often you can aford buy a new card. Twice a year @ £200-300 + ???? or once every year or 2. My old 4200TI runs all the games I play not always at high res/frame rates but there playable and this is 3 years old +. Just until BF2 came out the card anit got the tech to play it so speed/power is good but only until a game comes out the card can't support !
6800GT gets my vote, I could have got an 6800GT but got 6600GT so I could buy an extra 1GB of ram. I just love the tast switching speed and amount of apps this lets me run.

K8N Neo2 Plat cpu temp seems to be screw up...

Whenever I cold boot my system and when I went into the bios, my cpu temp will be like 40c while system at 28c then slowly raised to 34c which is reasonable. But cpu temp always around 40-42c not matter if I'm overclocking or not. I mean the cpu temp should be lower when cold boot and slowly raise depends on the room temperature right?
Sometimes it's screwed like cpu temp will reach up to 47c in bios and in windows when idle and when i reboot it's back to 40-42c using nvidia monitor and speedfan for readings.
Let's say when not overclocking, i set to auto for the vcore and it will shown as 1.35v. Even at 250HTT or more at 1.5v, in bios or windows, it's showing at 39-41c except for the load temp which i only see a difference.
It's just strange that cold boot cpu temp hit at 40-42c instantly and hardly moves even when vcore is at 1.5v in bios or in windows. Either that or it went up to 47c when idle sometimes but after a reboot, it went back to 40-42c again. I'm really confused why it's like this btw me using the stock cooler.

Quote from: MurdoK on 29-April-05, 15:07:37
You took it right ! Is my english so bad...?? Bios ver. 1.5 shows correct readings after cold boot (yes when you are in windows and boot another time)
This 1.8 BIOS is not a Beta anymore. MSI will release this BIOS after their Holidays, many people in a german Forum are using it, without any problems!!
You should give it a try .... if you are experienced !!
http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/k8nneo2.html
Greetz
Thanks MurdoK
I just flashed to bios v1.8 and the high temp of 40c when boot is fix
Now for cold boot, it's showing at 35-36c but the auto boot when psu switch is turned on showing blank screen with red/orange led light is not fix yet

K8N Neo2 Platinum usb2.0 question

Hi,
I was wondering why there's no USB2.0 driver in my device manager. The driver is listed as "Enhananced PCI to USB host controller".
Is this normal or do I need to install another driver? I did a google search with no luck. I tried to manually install it but there's no driver listed as USB2.0.
I'm aware that the Nforce drivers are supposed to be installed with at least SP1 on the system, but when I setup my mobo, I waited till SP2 was installed before I installed any device drivers. So I don't think that the problem, if there is a problem.
Anyways, I just was wondering what other people are seeing under their device manager with this particular mobo.

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"Enhananced PCI to USB host controller".
is USB2 MS - Never use 1 word when 6 or 7 will do
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I waited till SP2 was installed before I installed any device drivers
Yep that's the right way.
luck

K8n neo2 CPU overheat protection and safe temps?

Hello,
K8N neo2 has "CPU overheat protection", what is the cutoff temperature? Does it monitor temperature all the time?
What happens to FX-53 CPU if it heats above 70C and MB does not shut it down?
Thanks

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Max processor for K8N Neo2?

Howdy, I have a K8N Neo2 and I'm looking to upgrade the processor in it. Looking at the specs on the website it lists "Supports up to 3500+, 3800+ Athlon 64 FX 53, or higher CPU". Has anyone put anything faster then an FX53 in a K8N Neo2 and it worked? Just wondering how fast I can go with the processor in this board.
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Harold

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K8N Neo2 Platinum troubles.

This will be my first post here, and I hate it to be a problem post. Anyway, I built my own computer about 2 months ago, and I seem to have a problem with 2D applications. Here is my setup before I show you what I mean.
Mobo MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
CPU Athlon 64 3000+ S939
PSU Antec 350W
GPU PNY Geforce 6800GT 256MB AGP
200GB Maxtor SATA HD
Sony DVD-RW
1 GB Mushkin PC3200 DDR Ram
OS Windows XP Pro
Ok, here is my exact problem. I seem to have trouble playing most MPEG, AVI, and WMV video types. I say most, because some will work ok. I have a picture of my problem here:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/ZeroX585/hmm.jpg
There seem to be lines that appear across my video, and some 2D games such as Doom, Zsnes, and Worms world party. They also seem to appear when certain colors are shown during playback of videos and games, (mostly the darks and blacks.) 3D games work FINE, (Half Life 2, Doom 3, Far Cry are perfect). No errors what so ever. I have also noticed that this happens also when the program is dependent on some DirectX resources. I have uninstalled and reinstalled DX9 about 3 times, I have my latest Graphics drivers, I have my latest Windows Updates, I have the latest Mobo chipset drivers and such as well. I have also installed Windows XP again. I am not certain that this is a complete motherboard issue, as I do not have parts to switch out, but I am lost as to what I can do next. I HAVE replaced the GPU with an older ATI Radeon 9000, and it still happens. I highly doubt that the problem would lie within the CPU, but it's probable. I have reseated all the parts in the computer, and checked over my motherboard to make sure there isn't any damage to it. I am lost as to what I can do next though.
There is one thing I have noticed though, is if I go into my Display Properties and take the Hardware Acceleration tab down to "Disable all Direct 3D and Direct Draw Accelerations", the 2D programs work FINE. But if it goes even one notch up, it goes back to the lines. Anyone know what this could be related to?? Thank you for your help.

Before I had my 6800 GT, I was using the Radeon 9000, and I did use Driver Cleaner 3 to remove the Radeon driver. I also used Driver Cleaner when I update the Nvidia drivers, and I've done this a few times as well. I've tried using the Nvidia direct drivers (Current version), and I am currently using the PNY version of the Nvidia drivers, all the while using Driver cleaner to remove the old drivers before installing the new ones. I have not tried any games or videos in safe mode though, I think I will do that. I will get a screen shot of Doom if I can. By the way, I am not certain what you mean by "Be sure to run the Nvidia option, not the Nforce option."

Which power supply for k8n neo2 Platinum

I need to buy a new power supply for my computer. With the ATX12V v2.2 standard and ATX12V 2.01 and the "no -5v on new psu's" issue I'm at a loss as to what to look for. I have looked and cannot find what "standard" (is that even the correct term?) the k8n neo2 supports.
My main requirement is that the psu be 550-650 watts and have modular cables. I know someday I will have to upgrade my system to PCI-E and modern components, so I would like a PSU that would work now and in the future.
Could someone point me in the right direction?
Many thanks
system spec's
Motherboard- MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
CPU- AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual core 4800 939 socket
Memory-CORSAIR 2X1G Twinx2048
Video- ATI HIS 4670 1GB AGP
HD- Seagate 100 gb 7200 rpm
Drives CD-DVD and CD-RW
PSU- Ultra X Connect 500W ATX
Sound- Creative SB Audigy2 Gamer
OS- WinXP Home SP3 32 bit

Why do you need 550-650W or is that just because of future needs? I would suggest one of the Corsair +12V single rail modular PSU's if you insist on the modular design. Check newegg for what they have for modular in the Corsair lineup. I'm sure you're aware that their price is considerably higher than the non-modular. K8 MB's that needed -5V are the early ones that had Creative Sound Blaster onboard audio.
HX650
   * Was: $139.99
   * $109.99
   * After $10.00 Rebate
   * $10.18 Shipping
That's what it is now but if you don't need it in a big hurry you can probably wait a while and get for the same price but with free shipping.
Edit: Gee, Ultra with blown caps, I just happen to have a xPRO 800W that blew some caps, repaired it and started going bad again and then got my TX650 to replace it. Got it for $70 after rebate (which I haven't received yet) by waiting for the right price, rebate and free shipping. VX550 would have been good enough but at the time I got the TX650 at a lower price.

NOOB -MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum questions

Hi
I coming from an Intel background but am now considering changing to AMD; i'd like to keep my agp x800xt pe card and get a MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum board but have got a few questions /concerns.
I have looked on several forums including MSI's own forum and noticed people having problems with corsair value select memory modules.
My questions which i'd be grateful for answers to are:
1. Am gamer and planning to also purchase a 4000+ to put in it - will the board recognise it straight away or will I need to update BIOS..
2. Want to transfer my current 4x512mb 3200 Corsair Value Select sticks to my new board - will there be any compatibility problems? (cannot afford to buy new memory)
3. Will I be able to run the memory 200 + ? as heard the boards base clock for a 4000+ is 166
4. If I can run these at 200 can i do this straight away or will i need to overclock them slowly to get to 200 (will the board see them as 3200 and start at 200?)
5. Anything else I should know/look out for?
Many thanks to all. My first post here so hello to everyone.

Hello !!
Let´s try to answer your questions...
1. It depends on which Bios Version is installed out of the Box, i suggest version 1.8, if you are not using a Venice / Dual-Core or later CPU Core. The advantages of biosses later than version 1.8 are the new Steppings Support and some new Memory Timing Options available in Bios Setup.
2. I do not know exactly, i think most corsair sticks are running well on this Board if you are not going to overclock. But it depends on which Chips are used your Corsair Modules. What could be a problem is that you are going to use 4 Ram Sticks, because with Winchester Cores you would not be able to run 4 Sticks in PC3200Dual Channel Mode (DDR333), even if your Ram would be 100% compatible with your MOBO. Venice and later Cores are able to handle 4 sticks at 400Mhz DDR clock. Except you own 4 single sided Ram Modules.
3. Should be possible if your memory likes it.....
4. No, the Bios will recognize your SPD Timings. So you will have to overclock them from a 166Mhz Memory Divider Base.
5. Take a look here:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46730
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=72024.0
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/7025/memory.pdf
Good Luck
Greetz MurdoK

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