K8N Neo2 Hang Boot Problem

First of all here is my configuration
Athlon64 3500+ sk939
MSI K8N Neo2
2x512Mb DDR400 VData
Asus V9999GT (Geforce6800GT)
WD Raptor 72Gb 10k SATA
Maxtor 200Gb SATA
I have two different type of problems:
1. Sometimes the boot hang up in "Detecting IDE driver" section after the DVDRW detection (probably when is looking for SATA storage unit)
2. WindowsXP boot stuck for 5-10 min with black screen and next boot up normaly
I've tryied a LOT of different bios settings, XP driver combination... it looks like that the second issue happens more frequently after nForce chipset driver installtion, but surely i cannot ignore them!
Anyone can help me?

Are you using Nvidia IDE or Microsoft IDE driver ?
Nvidia IDE give some people problems - Test uninstall / install Nforce driver and uncheck Nvidia IDE.
Also be sure that all your IDE devices are healthy.
If nothing else of the "ordinarie" solutions helps.....
Remove any high powered case-fans that are connected directly to the MoBo´s 3-pin connector and connect them to the PSU 4-pin molex.
This happened to me once - Hang on IDE detection / long time before booting XP - Removed a Titan 120mm case-fan from
Mobo 3-pin - Booted perfectly.

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K8N Neo2 USB boot problem

Hi, I'm trying to fix my computer (it freezes on every operating system all of a sudden), and I need to use the USB boot to load Linux Live and Windows installation (both froze as well). The problem is that it'll take the USB just once in a while, and that is causing me a big loss of time to make the tests and a headache. First thing I did was memtest and I found corrupt memory, thus I replaced the DIMM. But the freezing is still there.
Do you have any hint? I know it's a double question but at least if the USB boot was working all the time it'd be a lot faster to load stuff and try to fix the problem.
Thanks for your hints!

Quote from: Henry on 04-October-11, 07:26:40
First thing tell us what the rest of the PC consists of.
I didn't think the rest of my hardware would matter with the USB boot problem, anyway:
1.D BIOS
Athlon 64 3000+
512 mb ddr PC3200
Geforce4 MX 440 AGP
300W power supply
Maxtor 250 GB IDE
Thanks for your attention.

K8N Neo2 strange power problem ...

My specs:
K8N Neo2 Platinium / Athlon64 3500+/ Antec Neo Power 480W/ 6800GT Winfast/ 2 x 512 MB Kingston HyperX PC3200
Everything works good but i have one strange problem with my comp ...
When i turn off system and then i will turn off power supply (Antec Neo Power 480W) my comp is unplugged (no power).
Then when i turn on power supply (switch on Antec Neo Power 480W) immediately my comp start to live ! But ! There is no system booting ! Only what happen is fans on CPU, mobo, Graphick card and other fans starts working, my neon lights start flashing etc ...
Then when i push start button system starts booting ...
The problem is seriuos, coz when i turn off my comp and then in the night they turn of the power and then they turn on the power in my home my comp will start to live ! Fans start to works, neons starts to light etc !
I'm sure i have correct plugged every wires to my mobo ( i'v check few times with an intstruction).
What the problem ?

i called .after stateing my issue i was quickly told to rma the psu. :biggthumbsdown:i called again dreading not haveing the use of my computer for more than a day .and was told this is an issue with abit av8 mobos and msi neo plat. 2.there tech team was currently testing this issue.i was told wo email [email protected] with system specs and issue.i was also told
there was no reports of hardware failure caused by our issue. :undecided:that was monday and no reply yet.the support person told me that this was a circuitry standard that was used on the 2 different mobo. i love the power supply.i hope this issue[i know its small]is resolved easily.ive always used antecs products and never had any kind of problems.i still recomend them as well as msi.

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum RAM problem

My spec:
AMD64 3000+ Venice
1gb RAM Elixir
1 x Maxtor 120gb IDE
1 x Maxtor 200gb SATA
1 x Maxtor 200gb IDE
ATI Radeon x800 pro 256mb
I have a K8N Neo2 Platinum motherboard, the problem is that when I try to add in another 512mb stick the system won't even boot up. I have tried other brands and amounts but still to no avail.
I boot the system up and the monitor won't even switch on, but if I take out the 512 stick it works fine.
Any ideas?

Not quite.
Use the color codes .
If you have matched sticks in density (size) and timings (spd data) you can run dual channel.
This means having one stick in memory channel 1 ( green ) and another in memory channel2 (purple )
Theese are physically wired next to eachother on the motherboard , from cpu and upwards..
You can not do that , with that mismatched modules the cpu can't initialize it's memory controller .
So your only choice is to run two modules with single memory channel config .
Use the colorcodes to make sure you use signgle memory channel config (since you have mismatched sticks and the A64 memory controller cant run those in dual mode)
So your choice is to use either both green slots or both of the purple ones .
Place the one module with the higest cas rating (slowest) in the green slot with the lowest slot number (marked on the board) .
And the other stick on the green slot that remains .

Msi k8n neo2 54g platium problem

Hello again i foudn how to raid them, and now i got a new problem.
When i connect all my hdd's the computer goes blank in the winxp startup installation, just before i get to chose where to install winxp pro, i stoppes to respond, and that is when i load both driver's on the diskette, the raid and the storage driver that is, hope you guy's can help.
this is my sytem.
Msi K8n Neo2 54g Platium
Amd 64Bit 3500+
1024 Mb Geil Pc 4400
2*160 Gb sata Seagate
1*250 Gb sata Wd
1*120 Gb ide Maxtor
1*120 Gb ide Seagate
sony Dvd burner
before they werent raid'ed and every thing was ok, now i raid those 2 160gb seagate, and when all is connected, it stoppes to respond.

Don't know if this helps, but your getting it anyway
When installing windows don't have any Hard drives in front of your raid array, assuming that's where your putting your OS . Unplug them whilst windows is installed. This is due to the fact that windows places %systemdrive% as the first drive it sees (e.g 1'st master) , meaning it will be C: and hosts the os boot files .
(Taken from Syar2003)
Therefore if installing your raid on Sata 3/4 unplug all IDE Hard Drives plus SATA 2/3.
Once windows is installed Plug 'em all back in
Luck

K8N Neo2 hang at decompressing BIOS image to ram. HELP!

Hi,
After several days of flawless running, my computer just died today.
My computer hang at "decompressing BIOS image to RAM for fast booting" (indicated by the D-bracket LEDs) during the startup. I have tried the following but nothing helped.
1) clear CMOS jumper by shorting pin 2 and 3
2) clear CMOS by removing the battery
3) remove the CPU and put it back in
4) take the memory out and put it back in dual/single channel mode.
After pushing the power button, I observe through the LEDs that the mb doing the following
1) System power on
2) Memory Detection Test
3) Decompressing BIOS image to RAM for fast booting and stuck!
Any suggestions is welcome!!
My computer config:
AMD64 3200+ 90nm
MSI K8N Neo2
Bios V1.4
Mushkin basic 512MBx2 (2.5-3-3)
VisionTek Xtasy 9600XT 256MB
Seagate 200GB PATA
Antec Sonata case with 380W power supply

I'd try horspowr1001
with a single module in slot 1
then just for fun
How to clear the CMOS
1) disconnect the power cable.
2) push the power button to drain the capacitors
3) Move the CMOS jumper to the clear position, from it's original 1-2 position to 2-3
4) Wait a minute to be sure the CMOS has been cleared. Take your Time
5) Return the CMOS jumper to it's original position 1-2
6) Plug in power cable.
7)restart computer
8) enter bios and select load optimized Bios defaults - save & exit (hopefully)
9) let pc reboot, Enter Bios Change Ht 5--->4
luck

MOVED: K8N Neo2 Platinum overclocking problem

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
K8N Neo2 Platinum overclocking problem

Quote from: Sharp on 24-April-05, 06:04:48
Hello,
In the BIOS you must set the FSB:DRAM ratio to 1:1.
Set the HTT (hypertransport Ratio to x4)
Set the CPU ratio to x4 (just too see if it will work.)
Set the FSB to 250Mhz
Set the Vcore to 1.45v.
Set the memory timings to SPD (or default values for DDR500)
Set the memory voltage to 2.7v, 2.75v or 2.8v.
Save and exit
Then let it boot from the memtest bootdisk.
Use memtest to see if it is ok, test for a long time, over 1 hour.
http://www.memtest.org/download/1.55.1/memtest86+-1.55.1.floppy.zip
Tight timings and high FSB is even better
I have the same problem I can go as high as fsb 219 without tweaking anything but the FSB. My system is about the same only my ram is ddr 400 so what should my mem volt and timg should be set to?

K8N Neo2 slow boot

machine is a MSI K8N Neo Platinum with a 3500+ cpu, 1 gig hyper x PC3500, 9800pro, audigy2, seagate 120gig.
Problem is after I installed the nvidia platform drivers it started to have a slow boot problem. I have xp set to the SOS boot, and the blue screen where it shows cpu and memory count it just sits there with no hard drive activity for about 1 min, then the hard drive starts flashing and it boots normally. Any idea why it would pause like that? I'm thinking driver issue but then more people would have this too. I tried dumping xp and reloading, but using a different order of install, I previously installed xp, then SP2 then the nvidia drivers. Anyone else heard of this?

Yes Fine found it non of the these boot options checked on mine. Just Found it in Help:- Quote
/so
Adds the /sos switch to the specified OSEntryLineNum, directing the operating system to display device driver names while they are being loaded.
There u go didnt know that
in your place i think id go back to the original XP drivers, as i said earlier there have been some issues with the NVIDIA Ide Drivers. No one seems to have percieved any performane issue (other than 1 works t'other dont)
Dont think its to do with the order of install, which can be made easier by slipsteaming SP2 (A forum search will give u some useful links for this). The order youve taken emulates that anyway.
Other People have played with the Master/Slave configuration on all drives, it seems that the Nvidia drivers dont always work with the Auto CLS setting
best of luck

MSI k8n Neo2 Platinium Stutter Problem

Hi
2 weeks ago I upgrade my system from AMD2500+ to AMD64 3000. And problems started. My first MOBO was k8t NEo2. I gave it back because of stutter. Everybody said that was PSU problem and I changed my PSU to TAGAN 480W and MOBO to MSI k8n Neo2 Platinium.
After a Fresh winXP install, SP2, nforce drivers and nvidia drivers. I test the system with Flight Simulator 9 and stutter is there
I tried lots of things. Uninstalled all pci cards. checked irqs, used pci latency tool no success.
Any ideas?

Quote from: buakbay on 26-March-05, 23:40:27
Hi
2 weeks ago I upgrade my system from AMD2500+ to AMD64 3000. And problems started. My first MOBO was k8t NEo2. I gave it back because of stutter. Everybody said that was PSU problem and I changed my PSU to TAGAN 480W and MOBO to MSI k8n Neo2 Platinium.
After a Fresh winXP install, SP2, nforce drivers and nvidia drivers. I test the system with Flight Simulator 9 and stutter is there
I tried lots of things. Uninstalled all pci cards. checked irqs, used pci latency tool no success.
Any ideas?
turn off any virus checker for a start
Theres a heck of alot of things that can cause stuttering..
turn off agp fast writes, turn off cool and quiet, turn off dynamic overclocking, ensure up to date gfx and platform drivers, ensure you are not overheating, what temps have you got on cpu and gfx?
do not run corecenter or any other background app that might have bugs in it, check the cpu usage of all running tasks, something might be spiking and causing stutter.
what drivers are you running with (list all)
is it only when playing networked or standalone too? what directx have you got installed? have you run memtest86 and checked your memory? are you overclocking at all? are you overclocking too much?
what are your benchmark scores for 3dmark 03? do they compare to others with similar spec?

P35 NEO2 FIR boot problems

Hi,
I'm another unlucky MSI P35 NEO2 FIR user whose mainboard does not boot. My config is as follows -
mainboard: MSI P35 NEO2 FIR
cpu: E6750
ram: OCZ Platinum Rev.2 800 2x1G
gfx card: MSI 8600GT
psu: Corsair VXEU450W
In the beginning it worked flawlessly for about 4 months. Then the boot problems started to appear. After turning on, the mainboard status leds configuration was red-red-green-red, the system kept rebooting and I had to wait several minutes before successful boot occured. (The whole procedure involved additional amount of hassle for me because I had to open the case and disconnect the harddisk during the "warm-up" time.) Gradually the time before successful boot increased. At one time I was not able to boot for several hours. Then I changed FSB jumpers configuration, moved memory to different slots, reseted BIOS and I don't even remember what I tried before eventually miraculously booting the system. After this accident I had to wait 0.5-1.5h for successful boot. In the meantime I upgraded BIOS to v1.8. Nothing changed. This lasted few weeks, and now the big problem reoccured. Initially, the behaviour after turning on slightly changed. Instead of red-red-green-red leds, I got 4 reds. The big additional disadvantage of this was that the system was not rebooting automatically after a few seconds. I had to manually turn it off then turn on again and repeat it until I got red-red-green-red leds, after which automatic reboots started. It's been getting worse and worse since then and now the situation is that I haven't been able to boot the system for a few days. Each of those days I tried for several hours without success (still trying while writing this post).
The one thing I haven't tried is using the 667 memory, I read that it might help. But even if 667 memory will help, does it solve the problem once and for all, or it's possible that the problem will reoccur later (note that my mainboard worked fine for 4 months)?
Also, do you have any other suggestions?
Thanks for help.

Quote from: Jack the Newbie on 14-March-08, 04:44:40
Try to boot your system with only one stick of RAM installed in Slot 1 (test both stick seperately).
Tried this today, though not too long (<20 manual reboots).
Quote from: Jack the Newbie on 14-March-08, 04:44:40
Also, clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU before next start-up attempt.
I did something similar today - I removed the battery completely (and rebooted without a battery since then).
Quote from: Jack the Newbie on 14-March-08, 04:44:40
Your current RAM modules could be faulty. Do you have different modules to try (different brand/model, if possible)?
I believe RAM is ok, because when my system worked I ran Orthos a few times for several hours in "blend" mode and no errors occured. Unfortunately I can't easily get 800 or 667 modules.
I'll try again tomorrow, enough for today.

MSi K8N Neo2 platinum: Power problem?

Hello everybody, I'm from vietnam
I have bought a K8N Neo2 Platinum with AMD3000+ (venice, E6) + PSU Acbel 300W (I thibk that it' enough, because I just use this machine for everyday co). But I have a bug:
I shutdown my PC, but I don't disconnect it from the electricity, then, i can start it again.
I shutdown my PC, but I disconnect it from the electricity, then, i cannot start it again- the system starts, the fans move, but just that. i have to clear CMOS, then, the PC can run normal.
I have flash BIOS to the newest (V1.B), but it can;t help!
Thanks a lot for your aid!

i think you need a new PSU.

K8N Neo2 Firewire 400 problem

I just got the MSI K8N Neo2 Mobo which has a Firewire 800 plug on the board. The salesperson told that there was a cable with 2 firewire 400 plugs included but this was not in the case. The distributor here in Denmark doesn't have this optional plug and won't take it home.
So my question is how to get hold of this plug ?
Please help!
Thank's

the k8 neo fisr2 comes with 2 firewire ports both 400 speed one is a mini 4 pin the outher is a standard six pin.
the mother board does not come with firewire, it does come with 1 floppy, 1 ide ,and one d bracket, as well as a sata power adapter , and 2 sata cables,
the neo2 looks like it comes with the same cables, although i am not sure about the number and type of ports.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=608
but i would suspect they dont have 800 cables out yet as the number of devices that is actually firewire800 are still very few except for a few external drives.
But one place to look is any store that handles apple computers, they seemed to have adopted 800 more.

P35 Neo2-FIR boot problem (GRRR - no video)

Hi.
A have a problem with my Neo2-FIR. But first my system's specs:
MSI P35 Neo2-FIR (PCB 1.2, BIOS 1.9 or 1.A - the first one supporting my CPU. I don't remember and there's no video, so I can't check it)
Intel E8400 E0 stepping (SLB9J) cooled by Thermalright Ultima-90.
2x2GB DDR2 A-Data 800MHz 4-4-4-12 2T
PowerColor HD4850 PCS+ (512 MB)
Enermax Pro82+ 385 W (Click for more)
WD AACS 640 GB (irrelevant)
It has been working well since fall 2008. Suddenly, I turn on the PC to see "No input signal" on my monitor..
Diagnostic LEDs report GRRR (from top to bottom), which translates into "Initializing video interface. This will start detecting CPU clock , checking type of video onboard. Then detect and initialize the video adapter". No signals form the speaker.
The full sequence after an restart is GRRR (for a split second) -> RRGR (Mem. detection test) -> RRGG (Decompressing BIOS image to RAM) -> RGGR (Processor initialization) -> GRRR.
After hardware changes (like different RAM configuration - in this case detecting RAM), it can freeze on some other stage. But an restart helps, and clearing CMOS before start up prevents this. Normally it's the above sequence.
What I've tried:
- Tested all the voltages with an Voltmeter. They're fine. The PSU was always rock solid.
- Detached everything that's not crucial (HDD, DVD, fans etc)
- Checked all the connectors.
- Cleared the CMOS (with the button, by removing the battery etc.). It worked, because the dual boot issue was reintroduced.
- Booting with the video card in the second (yellow) PCI-e slot.
- Booting with an old, PCI videocard. (Same symptoms as with the new one). I've also tried booting without and video card - it was the same, but there was an beep from the speaker.
- Booting with one RAM stick, in various configurations.
- Reseating the CPU (it looks fine, so does the socket BTW).
- Reseating the motherboard in the case (to make sure there are no shorts). No shorts on Ultima's backplate.
- probably some other stuff that I don't remember
- (edit) various FSB jumper configurations.
Of course the video card was checked on an different PC and it works fine. I can't check the CPU, but it's rather unlikely that it is its fault.
What I haven't tried is an blind BIOS update. A bit risky. Is it worth trying?
Any ideas? I probably have to RMA the board, but maybe someone knows the answer or had an similar problem.
I've also had some problems with CRC errors with the HDD. Windows reported problems with writing on it (don't remember the error codes). It was moths ago and replacing the SATA connector and changing the port helped.
There were some (rare!) BSoDs, mostly caused by Realtek drivers. RAM was tested with Memtest86+, it was fine. Anyway nothing special and most probably nothing related to the current problem.
Regards,
Dr.

Hi,
Thanks for your help.
They've actually sent me the P35 Platinum Combo mainboard. It the same as normal Platinum, but supports both DDR 2 and DDR3. I don't mind really, though I also don't need it It does have a slightly different PCB and a different BIOS (at least it has it's own number, everything else looks the same).
I have a problem though with the BIOS. It's impossible to set the proper CPU voltage. On Neo2-FIR the minimal voltage was equal to CPU VID (1.1 V). There were some problems with EIST (when it was enabled, the minimal voltage was higher - 1.25 V I think. I've just disabled it).
On this mainboard, with exactly the same CPU, I'm unable to set the voltage below 1.25 V and the CPU overheats It works, but gets really hot. EIST was disabled on default. Rather annoying, this is supposed to be a quite build, which won't be possible with an overvolted CPU
The BIOS is the newest version, but I'll double check.
I'll probably create a topic about this issue after some more research and testing (when I'll find time for it ). Though I'm afraid it's a bug that cannot be resolved. Apart from that everything looks fine.

K8T Neo2 hang-up problem?

Hello all!
Just purchased my first MSI motherboard a few weeks ago...and am experiencing a very trivial problem.
The system seems to benchmark fine (see signature)...although my scores are not as high as I thought they would be. In comparison to my former Socket 754 based 3000+ Athlon64/Albatron mobo (K8T800 based)/Geil PC3200 PC3200 DDR....it is only very marginally faster. I thought the upgrade to Socket 939/Dual Channel would give me a bigger boost than it did. Anyway....
My key word was BENCHMARKS. I think alot of my minorly improved benchmarks could be attibuted to my addition of a 6600GT video card (replacing a 9800Pro) as opposed to the CPU/mobo upgrade. My system seems to actually perform SLOWER in Photoshop. Its simply not as responsive. My instincts tell me it is a IDE Hard drive issue...but I'm asking to see what others may think.
Upon bootup, my system hangs for a second or two after windows starts. The mouse kind of jerks around a bit. I have already disabled pretty much every start-up program that I could.
With my old system: As soon as windows started, I was rocking and rolling...It ran wonderfully.
Now: I have to give my system an extra 10 seconds to do whatever its still doing.
My drives are configured as such:
Primary IDE: 80GB Western Digital SE (7200rpm, 8mb cache), SLAVE: Lite-On DVD-Rom
Secondary IDE: 30GB IBM Deskstar 75GXP (7200rpm), SLAVE: Lite-On DVD+-RW
My Windows Paging file is located on the IBM Deskstar (Ive read that making a permanent Page file on a seperate drive can give a good performance boost. I verified this with my old system in which is did give a great boost...especially in Photoshop)
My only other change is that I am using that older IBM Deskstar as my secondary drive. With my older system, I was using a 80GB Western Digital SE as my secondary/paging file drive. (That drive, along with all my other former components have been retired to my wifes computer)
Do you think that this older IBM drive could be my problem? Do you think it would also be responsible (somehow) for the hang-ups that I experience when Windows first boots?

Yes....
Fresh install of WinXP Pro SP2
...and all drivers current
...on latest BIOS (just flashed last week...to try and remedy the problem. No change)
I ran my Memtest a few weeks ago...and as I said, no problems as stock settings.
After AndersN brought it up again...I figured I would re-test it with the latest BIOS.
ERRORS! Within the first hour. Dang...I feel dumb now. As I said earlier. I did run memtest for 10 hours with no problems a few weeks ago.
So now I think I am going to replace the ram with something more high end. (suggestions? I want best bang for the buck...but would like to get some solid CL2)
I could see a ram problem being linked to instablility.....and possibly be the reason to my "less responsive" feel when working in Photoshop....but doo you really think that the memory could be the reason for the hang-up that I'm having at boot?
THANKS for all the help thus far!

K8N Neo2 SATA Raid problem finally solved

Hi guys,
finally got my SATA Raid 0 array to work.
Problem was that XP didn't find a correct array on installation although i used F6
to load drivers from disk. Sometimes it didn't detect any hard disk, sometimes
it showed two hd's and an array and so...
The whole spectrum of errors mentioned here over the last days and weeks...
I tried different bios like 1.1, 1.2, 1.2b5, 1.3b5 and i got the newest drivers
directly from nvidia as mentioned in some other thread. Nothing worked.
One should think that nvidia would have the latest drivers... but that was the
major fault.
As mentioned in a different thread i downloaded the unified nforce drivers from
nvidia's homepage and extracted the ide drivers to a floppy. I used these drivers
in all of my attempts and it never worked..
Yesterday i downloaded the MSI Nvidia nForce3 System Drivers package 5.03 from
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/download/dld/spt_dld_detail.php?UID=607&kind=1
and compared the version numbers to the files from the nvidia package.
The relevant files nvatabus.sys and nvraid.sys are version 5.10.2600.412 from
nvidia while the MSI versions are 5.10.2600.446 !!
I put these files on the disk, set up my bios (default 1.1) from scratch, started XP installation,
hit F6, loaded the new drivers and voila... one 230 gb array ready for installation
Took me FOUR days to figure this out. THANK YOU MSI support team,
wherever you are.... (definitely not working on an updated hp)
So to put it in one line:
What really worked for me were the drivers from the MSI nforce3 driver package 5.03
No messing around with beta bios, no voltage tweaking or SATA 3/4 preferred
or DIMM Slot preferred crap.
Of course you have to set up an raid array as described in rsheppicks raid setup guide
Only thing about bios versions is that only in bios 1.1 i got an array shown in the
hard disk boot priority list
So i hope this helps you guys out there that are having troubles setting up SATA Raid.

OK now! Dag, I was going crazy. I had two brand new Raptors and was trying to hook them up in a RAID 0 config. I am no dummy. It would hang at detecting arrays. I could not figure it out for the life of me. I will not talk about all of the combos that I tried. My buddy told me to try datalifeguard from WD. I did. Well, one HD showed no serial number in the extended test. An error message popped up. Said the drive was not working. So, Newegg sends me a dead drive and wastes days and days out of my life. I hooked up the one good drive just now. What do I see? For the first time in my life, I am seeing the raid bios! This almost cost me a divorce. Seriously though, the wife would come in and rub my shoulders like a fighter after a few hours of getting my azz whipped by this new rig. I am now going to make the floppy with the newer drivers like was done here. Just incase. I am in Raid bios now in the other room. Time to go set up XP on one drive for now. I refuse to wait for the RMA'ed second Raptor.

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