K8N Neo2 memory question

Im building my new system
AMD 64 3800+
MSI K8N NEO2 Mbo
1 gig dual channel Corsair 400
Ati X800XL
Audigy 2 ZS
The memory I bought is dual channel PC 3200 for 400 speed.
Now in the BIOS I only have option up to 200 frequency speed .
The available options are 100, 133, 166, and 200
Is this correct?
Now there is another option called High Performance mode.
here I can adjust the memory up to 400.
I havent touch this because I dont know if its here where I can increase the speed or not, I rather ask first.
Thanks a lot

The first option you mentioned is to set the frequency for the CPU. The second is to set the frequency for the memory. So if your CPU is a 200MHz set that at the first option then x 2 for the memory option.
Good Luck
Jeremy

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Hi
I coming from an Intel background but am now considering changing to AMD; i'd like to keep my agp x800xt pe card and get a MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum board but have got a few questions /concerns.
I have looked on several forums including MSI's own forum and noticed people having problems with corsair value select memory modules.
My questions which i'd be grateful for answers to are:
1. Am gamer and planning to also purchase a 4000+ to put in it - will the board recognise it straight away or will I need to update BIOS..
2. Want to transfer my current 4x512mb 3200 Corsair Value Select sticks to my new board - will there be any compatibility problems? (cannot afford to buy new memory)
3. Will I be able to run the memory 200 + ? as heard the boards base clock for a 4000+ is 166
4. If I can run these at 200 can i do this straight away or will i need to overclock them slowly to get to 200 (will the board see them as 3200 and start at 200?)
5. Anything else I should know/look out for?
Many thanks to all. My first post here so hello to everyone.

Hello !!
Let´s try to answer your questions...
1. It depends on which Bios Version is installed out of the Box, i suggest version 1.8, if you are not using a Venice / Dual-Core or later CPU Core. The advantages of biosses later than version 1.8 are the new Steppings Support and some new Memory Timing Options available in Bios Setup.
2. I do not know exactly, i think most corsair sticks are running well on this Board if you are not going to overclock. But it depends on which Chips are used your Corsair Modules. What could be a problem is that you are going to use 4 Ram Sticks, because with Winchester Cores you would not be able to run 4 Sticks in PC3200Dual Channel Mode (DDR333), even if your Ram would be 100% compatible with your MOBO. Venice and later Cores are able to handle 4 sticks at 400Mhz DDR clock. Except you own 4 single sided Ram Modules.
3. Should be possible if your memory likes it.....
4. No, the Bios will recognize your SPD Timings. So you will have to overclock them from a 166Mhz Memory Divider Base.
5. Take a look here:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46730
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=72024.0
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/7025/memory.pdf
Good Luck
Greetz MurdoK

K8N Neo2: Stupid question...

For the past several years, I've been running Raid0 on a variety of boards.
Just about to do a new Vista RC install on my K8N Neo2, and I want to do a non-raid install on an old 250GB Samsung sata disk I have lying around.
Stupid question: Is there any need/advantage to enable the raid controller? Its been so long since I have done a non-raid install, I can't remember.
I seem to recall there being some advantage in having the disk running off the raid controller, even though its not in a raid array, but I can't quite remember.
Any comments?
Cheers
Chippy

Chippy,
No benefit in enabling the RAID Controller if you are not using it.
Take Care,
Richard

K8n neo2 memory problem

Been running fine for awhile now with 2 x 512mb sticks of Crucial 64Mx64 pc3200. I just added two more sticks of identical ram but the board still only registers 1Gb instead of 2Gb. I have set the speed to 333Mhz but still no luck, anyone got a solution to this?

Please get CPU-Z and tell us what it says under memory and spd tabs. What volts are you using in bios for dramm? 2.75 should be ok despite red flashing warning in bios when you see it over 2.7 volts. Note that corsair may not have given you identical chips on the modules even if they gave you the same model and part number memory. There are no single channel DDR dimms that I know of - there are single sided and double sided. If you have venice or later you should be able to run 4 identical double sided sided dimms (512x4) at 400 speed. Sometimes a little more voltage (at least 2.7 in bios) helps. Also, if your modules only have chips on one side they are either single sided 512 (pretty rare) or single sided 256s (the usual). CPU-Z should help you sort that out.
It would help also to have your complete system specs as memory is dependent on cpu, psu, modules and bios. See forum rules for info about creating a sig with your system specs.

K8N Neo2 NIC Questions

I started getting software lock ups with the nVidia driver NVNRM.SYS.
I had to reinstall Windows after several blue screens.
So I disabled the nVidia NIC card and enabled the Gigabyte.
Can I uninstall the NForce Ethernet drivers if I'm using the Gigabyte NIC?
Thanks,
Bill

Thanks for the BTW, and you are not the only one to suggest that I installed the Firewall...but I didn't. At least not knowingly.
I went in and deleted NVNRM.SYS and the nVidia NIC stopped working.
I reinstalled the 5.10 nForce set and during install got a blue screen memory dump caused by NVNRM.SYS.
I got so tierd of blue screen crashes, I went to the Gigabyte NIC.
All seems ok for now...I hope.
Bill

K8N Neo2-F Hardware RAID question

Hi guys,
Question for you. I have a Hitrachi 160GB SATA drive and I installed x64. After all is good and well I went out and got a second identical drive. I would now like to have these two drives Raided with the hardware raid. When I go into the RAID setup after POST, I can see both, add both, and mirror both. When I reboot, all I get is a post and it just stops after showing that box where it lists everything in the computer and what has what IRQ's. No error messages saying no boot drive, no system disk, etc. I switch it back and I can boot with the one drive. I also noticed during the RAID config, it asks me if I want to erase the drive. I always say no because I'm scared that it will erase the primary drive that I need to keep and not the new one for mirroring. Can anyone help me or confirm I'm doing this right. Thank you very much in advance.
Matt
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-AMD 64 4200+ and fan/heatsink that came with it - NO OVERCLOCK (YET)
-2 - HITACHI Deskstar 7K250 HDS722516VLSA80 -13G0254 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive
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-BFG GeForce 6800 GT AGP

You windows installation don't have the nvraid drivers loaded sou you won't be able to boot that windows installation
with the xp64 disk put in a enabled raid array .
But perhaps you can fool the system by doing this .
Leave the xp64 HD as is (just as a regular sata say at sata 1 )
Connect the new disk to the other sata controller , say sata 3 ( as they are controlled in pairs )
Set sata 3 as raid enabled and create a raid-1 array in the nvidia raidbios with just this single drive in it .
Boot windows xp64 from the normal enabled xp-HD and it should detect new hardware is added and ask for drivers .
Install the nvidia raid drivers and reboot when asked .
Then check if you have raid manager and raid drivers enabled in the windows installation .
After this point you can proceed to do the thing you first tried .(but without clearing the disk)
Delete the workaround fake raid you made with the new disk .
Shut down and move the hd-connectors again so that you have the two drives either at sata 1+2 or sata 3+4 .
Make a new array that includes the xp installation with only this disk in it , leave the other one free .
Try to boot the system .
If it boots you use nvraid manager in windows to add the second drive and let the array rebuild (sync drives )
Note that rebuilding take several hours to complete .
Look in the nvraid user guide for details .
To fully understand the nvidia raid it's wise to read this from start to finish a couple of times ,
and to have a hardcopy of it printed out.
A copy of the nvraid userguide rev.20 here :
ftp://ftp.tyan.com/manuals/m_NVRAID_Users_Guide_v20.pdf

Question about k8n neo2 temperature regulation

Hi everybody,
I got a slight problem with my k8n neo2. As posted in the thread of drutten (Always get this message after a cold start up"plz reset overclocking features in the setup menu") I'm experiencing a strange boot behaviour when i turn on the computer the first time. All d-leds remain red for ~ 30 secs and the black screen stays black. Then the computer proceeds through the booting sequence (and my monitor turns on). After the IDE detection i get the error message 'system in safe mode, please reset overclocking features'. After ignoring this message everything runs really perfect.
I observe this error only, when the computer was off for a couple of hours (and actually unplugged as i had a bad experience with a lightning some years ago).
I was just thinking could it be that the computer is actually to cold, when i first switch it on. And that this is somehow read by the mainboard and treated as an error ?
thanks in advance, vanish

I've just came about a question with the nvidia system utility.
As stated above it reads a hypertransport frequency of 1005 mhz and a memory bus frequency of 402 mhz. My bios settings are htt multiplier = 5x and fsb = 200.
And i never came close to the sliders in the nvidia system utility, i mean i did't set there something myself. I basically just use the system utility to read out the temperature values - as the core center reports only rubbish to me. (system temp alternating between 0°C and N/A & cpu temp in my opinion a bit high and constantly fluctuating). By the way: the cpu voltage is reportet as 1.4, something that i dont believe :-)
The nvidia readout made me guess that the fsb must be 201 mhz to crat such values, therfore i set the fsb in the bios at fsb = 201 and surprise: the nvidia sytem utility reports the htt as 1000 mhz and the ddr frequency as 400 mhz. Does this make sense to anyone of you?
I also got a second question: Does a fsb of 201 do any harm to my system ? (cool and quiet is off, as i understand that this could be troublesome. the agp frequency is 66 mhz).
Thanx,
vanish
(hope anyone sees this post in this mistermed thread)
edit: well sisoft sandra reports a htt of 1005 and a ddr freq of 402 regardless of setting the fsb in the bios to 201 or 200. So i guess its a flaw in the nvidia system utility. So
1. are thes values then normal
2. can i reduce the values with the bios to 1000 mhz / 400 mhz in some way

Questions RE: K8N Neo2 Install

I've always been an Intel man, and my new build represents the first time that I'll be delving into the world of AMD, so I have some questions.
First, some quick specs:
AMD Athlon 64 3500+
K8N Neo2 Platinum
1 Gig Corsair TwinX XMS 3200LL 400Mhz (4x 256MB sticks)
2x 36 Gig WD Raptors for RAID0
Seagate Barracuda 200 Gig Standalone
Chaintech GeForce 6800 GT
Antec 430w PS
And now on to the inquiries:
1) The processor seems to come with some thermal goop already applied to the heatsink. Is this sufficient out of the box or will I need to use more? Intel chips have always included a little bottle of the stuff.
2) What will I have to do in the BIOS in order to get this memory working optimally? I've read through some threads briefly but so far I'm still a tad confused as to how to go about doing this properly.
3) I read the RAID FAQ that's floating around here, and it seems simple enough. Is there anything I should watch out for given my specific hard drive combo?
That should do it for now.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Just set up a similar system myself although I had hell getting my WD360 Raptors setup in a Raid0 configuration - turned out that it would only work after I swapped my optical drive out for another - weird or what?!
Whilst on the subject, in the Bios DMA transfers for the SATA ports is disabled by default so you'll want to turn that on. Personally, I set the stripe size in the Raid Bios to 64K and also formatted the array with 64KB clusters. I did this with my last Nforce2 board which went great guns for 18 months and with this board I'm getting 10 - 20% performance increase over that.
I've not tested this theory myself yet, but going on what others have posted, SATA ports 3&4 (next to the CPU) seem to allow for better overclocks.
Regarding the thermal pad that comes attatched to the cooler - I too have heard it sticks like glue and if you ever wish to remove the heatsink it's likely to destroy the CPU in the process. You'll need a solvent remover to easily clean it off (don't use a scourer!). You'll want to invest in some decent thermal compund such as Arctic Silver.
As for Ram, I know that it's pretty much touch and go using 4x512MB sticks - you might be lucky with your 256MB modules though. It used to be that Intel boards offered superior compatability and overclocking performance with Ram. However, with the advent of the new Samsung and Micron performance Ram, the A64 offers even better overclocking albeit with newer modules. Also, more important with A64 is not the bandwidth but the latency. Theres an option for 1T or 2T - 1T is worth 40Mhz or so bandwidth at 2T so try to keep it at 1T. It's a matter of trial and error in your case so you'll need a tool such as Memtest86 which will allow you to test withut screwing up your OS installation.
In addition to this, there's an option for Max memory speed with options of 200Mhz down to 100Mhz. These are in fact ratio's - 200 being 1:1 and 100 being 2:1 (FSB to Ram). Using these, you can raise the FSB for CPU overclocking while keeping your Ram speed down to a usable level.

Bios issues with k8n neo2, turn of memory test, and dmi pool data

Hey guys.
I recently flashed my bios to the 1.9's for the K8n neo2 running in my main machine.
Everything went ok for the most part, though i had some issues with boot record, and boot.cfg file. That stuff is all worked out now.
However, with this bios, I constantly get the extended memory test, on my 2 gigs of ram. The old bios i had, 1.4's, didnt do that. Is there an option to turn that off? I cant seem to find it any where?
My 2nd question is this, after this bios upgrade, my verifying dmi pool data takes longer then it used to, if it even did it before, im not sure, because my boot sequence was much faster.
How can I get rid of the "verifying dmi pool data" or speed it up?
Thanks guys

Tried to used the Bios 1c by Syar's. His bios is nice and easy. Maybe bould solve your problem.BTW do used liveupdate to flashed your Bios or is it manual? Stay away from using liveupdate as it causing a lot problems. Manual is the best way. Refer to my sig for the manual flashing. Here's the location of the files for the Bios 1C. Gd luck.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=59711.0
P/S: Create your own rig with details including the PSU and Bios revision and put in your signatures so others can help you.

Kingston HyperX Memory & K8N Neo2 Platinum

Hello.
I have a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum board (BIOS 1.3) with AMD 64 3000+ 939 CPU.
I am trying to run this with 2 Kingston HyperX PC3200 512MB memory (KHX3200ULK2/1G). This is the latest "Ultra-low Latency" memory from Kingston.
When I run this memory with NO overclocking at 2-2-2-5-1 at 2.7 volts (standard setting for this memory) with a single module, I get NO errors. When I try both chips in dual-channel mode, I get errors (on MemTest86).
(I also get errors if I run this memory on "Auto" setting in BIOS)
I CAN run 2 sticks of Crucial PC3200 512MB (regular, not Ballistix) at standard settings in dual-channel with no errors.
Has anyone got this memory to work on this board in dual-channel mode? If so, how? At what timings?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Originally posted by Xak
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Originally posted by GlennVidia
In the meantime...
Try loosening up the memory timings first, start with 2-2-2-8 thru 2-2-2-11
Then if no luck try 2-3-2-6 thru 10 or 11 you may even have to resort to 2.5 3-3-X
You should be able to at least find a sweeter spot.
You may even have to go to 2T and non aggressive settings.
Why would the timings work when in single channel mode, but not in dual channel, when the Crucial memory works fine in dual channel at the same timings used in single channel?
On a side note, the Kingston pair was purchased together in a matched set, while the 2 Crucial sticks (actually the memory from my system) were bought seperately over a month apart.
The timings that RZT tried are the exact ones Kingston specifies for that model, there should be NO reason whatsoever they wouldn't work at those timings, dual or single channel.
Please correct me if I am wrong...
First of all, I said "in the meantime," meaning until someone else came up with a better answer. If I have problems with memory, regardless of what the manufacturer says' I hunt for a sweetspot (if there is one).
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Why would the timings work when in single channel mode, but not in dual channel, when the Crucial memory works fine in dual channel at the same timings used in single channel?
That's like trying to compare apples to oranges. Two different manufacturers and likely different chips onboard, not to mention likely different PCB design.
What I suspect is either one stick is further out of spec than the other and they are not a properly matched pair. Kingston has a history with the nForce chipset which leaves little to be desired.
That is why you might see very similar systems, and one works with the same ram, and the other doesn't. It's called parametric differences. In short, one stick my be at the upper end of the spec and the other stick may be at the lower end. Then, throw in the motherboard, and the CPU, (now with the onboard memory controller) while we're at it, and you have a real touchy situation. There is little room for lower quality. That is why matched pairs exist. Doesn't mean it's mandatory, however.
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On a side note, the Kingston pair was purchased together in a matched set, while the 2 Crucial sticks (actually the memory from my system) were bought seperately over a month apart.
I take it you know this person, otherwise this is not making sense or you are a pretty slick hijacker
Matched set can still be flawed, I get em from the best once in a while. It may not be the RAM at all. Only way to tell for sure is to try it on another identical system or try another pair that passes muster in another identical system. All this speculating is useless unless you've exhausted all possibilities.
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The timings that RZT tried are the exact ones Kingston specifies for that model, there should be NO reason whatsoever they wouldn't work at those timings, dual or single channel.
Please correct me if I am wrong...
Not wrong, maybe a little overoptimistic. Some situations warrant different measures. It's not that black and white, nor is it written in stone. At this point it only indicates there is indeed a problem, where it lies, would be better off using a dartboard to guess at this point.

Question about K8N Neo2 Platinum mainboard.

About a couple of weeks ago I found that none of the USB ports of the K8N Neo2 Platinum mainboard are working correctly. Every time I plug a USB device I get the following error message:
"USB Device Not Recognized.
One of the USB devices attached to this computer has malfunctioned, and Windows does not recognize it. For assistance in solving this problem, click this message."
Because of this, I found that there's a device in the Device Manager called:
Under SCSI and RAID Controllers section:
+ AUL14T9L IDE Controller
The question is for the ones having this same motherboard:
Do you see this device as well?.
Thank you very much!

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Think you might try to clear CMOS.
I did it twice this week.
First time I left clearing the CMOS all night. The problem was not fixed.
Second time I left clearing the CMOS all night and I removed the battery as well. All night too. No luck
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But first please say what BIOS you got now
The most updated one: 1.0D. Should I try 1.B?
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About the unknown device, are motherboard drivers installed? Is there some USB or other devices attached you haven't mentioned?
I installed the motherboard drivers downloaded from the MSI web site:
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=587
They are the NVIDIA nForce3 System Drivers:
Win2K/XP driver package 5.03 contains the below components:
Ethernet NRM driver version 4.42 (WHQL)
Network management tools version 4.42
GART driver version 3.77 (WHQL) with updated uninstaller files
SMBus driver version 4.04 (WHQL) with updated uninstaller files
Win2K IDE 2.6 driver version 4.46 (WHQL) with updated uninstaller files
WinXP IDE 2.6 driver version 4.46 (WHQL) with updated uninstaller files
And believe me. Nothing is attached to USB ports.

K8N Neo2 with AMD 4200 X2 - Memory config.

Will my AMD 4200X2 allow me to use 4 sticks of 512 MB on the K8N Neo2 motherboard? I know that there have been issues using 4 sticks on with AMD 64 3500 chips, but I don't know if this still applys to the newer X2s.
Thanks for any info on this.

Quote from: qyx on 25-August-06, 15:00:42
The user manual for the Neo 2 says you cannot do it because it was written before Venice and later cpus, so it is outdated in that it does not recognize that 4 identical dual sided PC3200 dimms will run at 400 and not just 333 with the newer cpus that came out after the user guide (manual) was written.
Edit- LairdD- You miss the point -- you don't have to overclock to do it, you just need identical dimms and the right cpu.
No, qyx, you missed the point, uhh... twice. My previous post referenced the AMD [26094.pdf] doc on the subject... which you appear not to have read... not the MSI manual.
The newer >=Rev E CPUs have the same speed specs as previous ones on fully populated ranks in both channels. I was not talking about overclocking in any way or form; what I was saying is that if your memory DIMM spec is overrated, i.e. above PC3200, you may be able to do better than the AMD specs simply because you're then underclocking the memory. While I haven't tried it I seriously doubt that you can get DDR400/1T with 4 full ranks on both channels.
There's also the point that even if the DIMM mfr has the same identical part number, the chances of getting an exact match on DIMMs purchased a year or so apart is slim. It's also wise, when considering that a memory upgrade may be contemplated in future, to buy single rank DIMMs if available.

K8n Neo2 OCZ Memory Detection Problem

1.Product Type: K8n Neo2 Platinum
2.BIOS version: 1.D
3.External VGA Type: Radeon x1950 Pro
4.CPU Type: Athlon 64 3200
5.Memory Type: OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K 2 x 512MB
6.Power Supply Type: EnnermaxNoiseTakerII 485w
7.Operating System: XP/Vista Dual Boot
8.Problem Description:
I have just acquired the memory speciified above, but the system will not POST with this RAM fitted on the mainboard.
The RAM above is certified to run with my mainboard (K8n Neo2).
I have other RAM from OCZ which works fine.
This RAM is:
1 x 512MB OCZ400512ELPE
1 X 512MB OCZ400512EL
I have spoken to OCZ support and done the following:
Reset the CMOS
Increased voltage for the DRAM
Tried each of the new 512MB DIMMs individually.
But this has not helped and OCZ have no more suggestions other than to ensure that I have the latest BIOS, Which I think Id do.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks

hi there,
what is your RAM which you are trying to run? is it OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K 2 x 512MB matched pair?
ensure you have used mainboard DIMM slots: DIMM1 & DIMM2
where DIMM1 is the 1st DIMM slot close to CPU socket.
have you tested each of memory sticks individually using DIMM1 slot? if yes what are the results?
remove power cord from the PSU and Clear CMOS
re-try to boot.
you can setup memory vcore manually from BIOS to 2.75V and Command Rate to T2 (all memory timings leave it to Auto) and re-test.
get a copy of Memtest86 and ensure no errors will comes during testing.

K8N Neo2-F/Athlon 64 question

Hi:
This may not properly belong here, but then again, it may.
Just built a system around the K8N Neo2-F (1.9 bios). The processor is an Athlon64 3200+ (Venice). To the best of my knowledge, this processor has a 2G clock speed; yet when I do any number of benchmarks, it reports as 1G. The exception to this is AMDs own clock speed tool.
Is there a reason this is happening? Perhaps a BIOS setting that I'm unaware of? I know there are some things that I'm not providing here to help people diagnose the problem, but I don't know what those could be. Let me know and I'll give as much data as I can.
Oh, yeah, the multiplier is set to 5x; that's as high as it goes.
Thanks,
Doug

Quote from: kakarocht on 04-October-05, 13:34:30
what are you trying do actually???
Just get some information. I wondered why my processor was being reported as having a 1Ghz speed. It was the Cool'n'quiet. It probably would've reported a higher speed had it been under a heavier load.
Ok, I am trying to make incremental improvements in the speed of the machine. The memory is at 2T by default; I think setting it to 1T could help. But being conservative by nature, I do wonder if I run the risk of destabilizing the computer by doing that.

K8N Neo2 with 4 x 512 mb memory modules (2gb)

I read it can be done... has anyone here tried this setup: 2 gb in four 512 mb memory modules???
I was just wondering if there was a problem or bug to know about, also how good is the overclocking with that many ram installed... or even if its posible!
Thanks

Quote from: Wonkanoby on 17-February-05, 10:15:08
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=607
4 double sidded dimms will run as pc 2700 ie 333 not 400
The truth is this motherboard/chipset only supports DDR400 speeds... and almost everybody exceeds that speed.
Anandtech review from June last year says the followin:
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The MSI K8N Neo2 was able to run with all 4 DIMM slots at the same aggressive 2-2-2-10 settings used for 2 DIMMs. However, as we have seen on the other 939 boards running all 4 DIMMs, Command Rate must be reduced to 2T when filling both Dual Channels.
So its the price to pay perhaps when using all dimms, unless a new BIOS would have changed that. I doubt that, as this happens to all 939 motherboards as well regardless of the chipset.
This is the link to the review: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2128&p=11

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