K8N Neo2 MS7025 and SATA help

Hi folks, ive just changed from a P4 3.06 to an AMD 64 3500+ and the above mobo and its all gone a bit pear shaped. On my last system i used the SATA drive as master and all worked fine. Now with this one i keep getting a blue screen saying thet there might be a virus or its not connected properly. When i run an old ata drive as master and also have the SATA drive connected it bots up no problem showing the SATA drive properly.
Why wont it bot up on its own. Both drives have XP home edition?
Also all my internet router settings are on the SATA drive so i need to swap my mobo and old P4 back in to use it online
Hope you can help
Thanks
Lewis

The sata drive has a boot block in it, as on the old system i could boot with only the sata drive installed.
Is that what you mean by boot block, or is that something in the bios that needs setting?
Can you tell i have no idea

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1- Although I change from BIOS the settings for AGP to 4x8x and enable fast writes, I still cant see them turned on from the Catalyst Control Center. Everything is greyed out what can I do? They all used to be on and agp was 8x with my K7N2 Delta board....
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My best regards.

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Just install a new mobo (K8N Neo2-F) and all is good, but I want to update the bios to fix the USB 2.0 problems. I just ordered a new Sony floppy drive and installed it. When I turn on the computer the green light stays on the floppy and it never gets detected (WinXP x64). I checked the power and it's in right and the cable is installed correctly. I did notice that the floppy connector on the mobo is missing pins. Is this by design on this board? Also, I tried booting from a usb floppy to no avail. Is there something I'm missing? Thanks for your help.
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floppy cable always missing some pins but make sure that pin 1 (red) is on the correct side (see instructions that came with the floppy). You may need to enable FDC (floppy drive controller) in bios. You may need to enable USB boot in bios also if that is what you want to use, but this could create other issues I think. Good luck.

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K8N Neo2 - WinXP and Raid driver problem

Quote from: SillySider03 on 18-June-05, 22:18:50
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I'm having a "reboot" problem with my MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum. After turning my system on it will run without any problems, until I reboot. After a reboot it will always hang after the initial windows-bootscreen. The HDD-light will remain on. If, instead of going into Windows XP SP2, I try to enter the BIOS after a reboot (DEL) the system will also hang (blank screen with blinking cursor).
It started doing this after I installed the Maxtor 250 GB SATA disk. Before, I didn't have problems rebooting. If I disconnect the Maxtor drive I can reboot and enter BIOS and Windows each and every time. Reconnecting the Maxtor 250 GB SATA drive will return the reboot problem. I always have to use the power swith to get a working system again. It's not enough to do a hard reset (this has the same effect as rebooting).
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P.S. The NVidia IDE-drivers are NOT installed. System is not overclocked.

Thank you for all the replies. Upgrading to the latest Nvidia IDE-drivers did not fix my problem. Moving to other SATA-ports did not help either. Upgrading the mobo's BIOS is not really an option (I'm using one version before the most recent and there isn't anything in the fixlist of the latest BIOS).
Now I've contacted Maxtor for (hopefully) a new firmware.
Quote from: rogueUK on 31-July-06, 16:55:42
insego please use the SEARCH BUTTON
I did use the search function to find other people with similar problems. The reason I started a topic of my own was because of the text you get while joining:
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Do not hijack another persons topic. If you have a similar problem, start your own thread anyway.
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K8N Neo2 Plat. SATA Converter

Hey there folks! I'm new to these forums, but not to MSI products. I recently upgraded to a K8N NEO2 Platinum, an A64 3500+ and a WD SATA 80GB SATA drive. I also have a Maxtor 120GB IDE drive that I want to use in this system as a storage drive. Well since I had 1 IDE drive and a new SATA drive I went ahead and got one of those IDE-to-SATA converters so I could keep everything SATA. Well, everything installed ok, but win explorer is not seeing the IDE drive that has the SATA converter on it. In the device manager it says that it is there and working properly, I just can't access the dang thing. I'm using SATA ports 3 and 4 on the motherboard since 1 and 2 didn't want to work at all. Is there anything I can do to be able to access this drive with the SATA converter? The SATA converter is labeled SABR1000DV. Here is a link to the SATA converter...
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datascan,
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Very serious issue with MSI K8N Neo2-FX: need urgent help!

Hi! I am facing the following problems:
1. 3D Mark 05 demo, COD2 single player and Half Life 2 become semi-frozen.
2. The audio loops, and audio & video go out of sync.
3.VPU Recover/Infinite loop issue DOES NOT kick in.
4. The semi frozen game responds poorly to mouse movement.
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Quote from: Richard on 03-May-06, 08:40:18
bhanja_trinanjan,
If you can get 2.3.3.6 Mushkin, OCZ, or Corsair, then you would be the set.
PC-3200 or higher would be the way to go. If you ever plan on overclocking, then PC-4000 is the best option.
Take Care,
Richard
Thanks for your help. I am trying to locate Corsair dealers in Kolkata(My hometown). Are there any known issues with the K8N Neo 2 FX? I bought this motherboard just a few days back and I am facing so many problems.
Does this motherboard undervolt the AGP and RAM slots? Will I have to increase AGP and DDR voltage to make my system stable? Doesn't the raising of these voltages shorten the life of the video card and ram modules? I want to buy Corsair/OCZ/Mushkin. But in case it's unavailable, will Kingston RAM lead to an unstable system?

K8N Neo2 platinum & 750g sata RAID issue

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I have the latest Bios 7025V1D but I am wondering if this issue is bios related because of the 750g size... The problem has only started since I have installed the two 750g HDD's in RAID. Does this bios version support 750g HDD's? Is there an updated BIOS to fix this problem somewhere?
I have 2gig of ram, 3500+ processor, latest Nforce3 drivers from Nvidia, RAID drives on sata ports/3/4, 500gig WD on sata port 1, 200 gig WD is HDD is IDE, Windows SP2 and all updated, ummmmmm everything else is fine I'm fairly sure.
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Terry.

Ok My PSU is: WideTECH 550w, +3.3v=33a, +5v=36a, +12v=25a, -12v=1.0a, +5vsb=2.5a.
I am only running 3 HDD's at the moment, the 2 750's and the 1 200gig. I have left the other 500gig unplugged until I get this problem sorted. I don't have a cd rom plugged in or a floppy. I only connect them when I need to because this computer is setup to be a storage server and I use my other pc for anything dvd related etc. The only other thing which is chewing power is the video card which is an old 6800gt ultra. So basically the power issue was fine until I installed the two extra HDD's and as I have unplugged the 500gig for the time being its only really one extra HDD which shouldn't be an issue. Oh I have two 80mm case fans using the psu aswell.
As for my other specs: I have 1 gig of Geil dual channel RAM 2x512 sticks, CPU=AMD Athlon64 3500+, MB is MSI K8n Neo2 Platinum, Vid card= Leadtek geforce 6800gt ultra 256 agp, You know about my HDD's but here they are again= 1x 200g WD caviar IDE, 1x 500g WD caviar sata(1 I think), 2 x 750g samsung sata (2 I think), OS = XP Home SP2 with all lasest automatic updates, latest BIOS etc etc etc....
My windows is a legit copy as well.
You mentioned putting my HDD's into sata 1 mode... I was of the opinion that my motherboard does not support sata2 anyway and would not allow them to run in anything but sata1?? If I did want to change the sata mode where would I do this anyway?
Thanks for your reply but I don't think it has to do with psu or sata mode although I'm interested about this sata2 thing, please explain.
Thanks in advance,
Terry.

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum and seagate sata2 500Gb

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As per subject, when the drive is connected to my computer it does not get passed the boot screen as all it keeps on doing is rebooting its self,
i have checked all my bios settings and all is as it should be, also i would like to mention that i already have 3 other sata drives connected to this motherboard, of which 2 are, 160Gb Seagate hard drives, and 1, 30Gb Weston digital hard drive, and they work perfectly,
I have also tried unplugging all the drives and just trying the new one, and setting the jumper to limit to 1.5Gb/s but still all it does is reboot, do you think the drive is faulty?
Thank you

Quote from: Chippy99 on 21-May-07, 21:51:09
Seems strange. I have a Seagate sata2 500GB (ST3500630AS) hooked up to Sata port #1 on my K8N Neo2 and it works perfectly. I have found it to be *very* intolerant of overclocks though.
What sata port are you connecting to? And are you overclocking?
This could be the problem ..... SATA ports 1 & 2 on the nforce3 boards are NOT locked. I only use 3 & 4 plus set your AGP clock to 67 or 68 to be safe (this is supposed to lock the PCI bus but only seems to work on SATA 3&4). Of course, this won't be a problem if you are running at Safe Default settings.

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J reinstalled my K8n neo2 with XP SP2, A64X2 4200+, XFX 7600GT ....
On MSI website there is 5.03 drivers for this motherboard. There is no 5.03 on nVidia website drivers archive?
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So, what is the best: 5.03 or 5.10?
Excuse j write not very good english!
Thank.

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i have MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum motherboard with 3500+ cpu and WD 160 hard sata disk.
I 'd like to ask if my MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum motherboard support sata2 hard disk drives, in order to know which HD to connect as a second HD drive, SATA or SATA 2 ??

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We just haven't got the technology yet.

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum and Venice E6

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I have just bought an MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum motherboard and an AMD Athlon64 3000+ processor with Venice E6 core (ADA3000DAA4BW).
Will this mobo boot with that processor? Or do i have to use a Winchester to flash the BIOS first? Personal experiences would be helpful!
Andres.

Your new board probably came with the 1.9 bios. The new 7025v1B.zip bios (1B only a couple days old) I think is for some of the new X2 AMD Processors. The MSI link to Products/Mainboards/Neo2/Processor Compatibility is now setup to use the 7025v1B.zip bios. As I recall the previous Processor Compatibility Chart for 1.9 bios was OK for all the Venice cores (E6 or not). I think it is only some of the latest E6 bigger models are affected by the latest 1B bios. Maybe someone has the older 1.9 bios Processor Compatibility Chart.
You shouldn't need to use a Winchester, some X2 processors would be recognized as earlier X1 models until the newer bios was installed. I think you should be OK with the 1.9 bios. I have the San Diego 4000+ and my board, one month old, came with the 1.9 bios installed.

Few question above the k8n neo2 platinum and raid

hi
i have for now intel 3.4ghz and asus p4c800dlux and 4 sata drives :
2x36giga wd 10000 raptors in raid 0 (connected to the on board promise sata controller)
2x200giga wd 7200 jd sata that (connected to on bard sata ports)
i order a athlon fx-55 and k8n neo2 platinum for a oc (a have 2x512 corsiar pc4000pro and hydro cool 200 ) and its look that its going to be problem
"SATA ports 1+2 will not maintain a lock and you can and will corrupt hard drives placed on these channels if you raise the HTT above 220mhz."
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=ge...890&articID=228
so im in a problem, if i wont to do nice oc (and i will) i need to leave sata ports 1 and 2 not connected and buy a sata-pci controller for my 2x200giga , im right ?
in that case i need to connect the raptors in raid 0 in the sata 3-4 prots (near the agp) but:
the raid on the noe2 is "NV RAID (Software)" it means that there is no a controller like promise and the cpu need to replace the controller work, so its doing a lower performance.

If you had 4 huge drives I would be more sympathetic. To me every board is a compromise, resulting in me having to abandon something I might have done previoulsy. In you case ditch the two 36gb drives, and slum it with the 200gb drives. Remember that "overclocking" is not a right. There will be many users oblivious of the SATA 1/2 overclocking problems running 4 sata drives in RAID without a problem.

K8N Neo2 Platinum MB + SATA Hard Disks

Hi,
I would like to use some additional disk in my PC and therefore buy SATA disks.
The OS is WIN XP Pro and I want to keep my IDE configuration which is:
C:\ = IDE hard disk Primary Master
E:\ = IDE hard disk Prmary Slave
D:\ = DVD Secondary Master
F:\ = IDE hard disk secondary slave
and to this I want to add just as data storage SATA 300GB hard disks (¿ up to 4 ? is that possible ?)
regards Rainer

I am not familiar with K8N Neo2-F so consult your manual to confirm my answers to your questions:
1- "Is this also the case for the SATA connectors on the K8N Neo2-F ??" Highly likely since your motherboard is a stripped down version of the Neo2 Platinum.
2- "And do SATA 1&2 require different drivers than 3&4?" For normal SATA operation these SATA drives are respectively contol by your NF3 chipset and you Realtek chipset. When you install or update your Nvidia & Realtek driver package you install all that is required to run normal SATA operation. Should you decide to use a RAID configuration with your SATA drive then another RAID specific driver would have to be installed at system level.
3- "Also, is there a significant increase in performance when going from PATA to SATA on this series of mobos?" My answer does not take into account RAPTOR HDs which are in a super class of their own. Medium to High end latest PATA & first generation SATA HDs in the 7200 RPM class are promoted by their OEM as having respective top transfer speeds of 133 and 150 MB/s. Comparing my Seagate 120 gigs PATA HD to my other two Seagate 200 gigs SATA HDs is not very scientific since they are not all 200 Gigs. Therefore use discretion interpreting results.
a. PATA - Peak transfer = low eighties ; Steady Transfer = high sixties
b. SATA - Peak transfer = mid nineties ; Steady Transfer = low eighties
It has ben a while since I did these PATA/SATA test so I am working from memory only. One thing that however sticks in my mind is that the delta between my PATA & SATA drives, for peak and steady performance, was very close to 12 MB/s in favor of first generation SATA. Could this be possibly related to (150-133), I do not know for sure.
SATA II generation are now coming to market. These new generation SATA II drives will most likely widen the performance gap between them and older SATA I or PATA drive.
Take good care,

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