K8N Neo2 + OCZ 3700EB = hit the wall at 221 MHz ???

Ok so here's the Problem:
I can run my memory memtest stable at 3-2-2-10-1T@[email protected], but as soon as I try to run it at >221MHz at any latency in Windows XP it doesn't even complete SuperPi 1M.
I disabled all Aggressive Timing, Overclocking, Spread Spectrum etc options, HTT Multi is at 3x, AGP at 67, 1T/2T at Auto, etc. SATA drives are at Port 3&4. I tried Win XP SP2 and without SP. Tried all Bios Versions (including beta). There is a fan blowing directly on the ram and booster. And the PSU has more than enough amps.
As I read something on this problem already somewhere else, but no solution, i thought maybe here anyone knows something.
My rig:
Athlon 64 3500+ on Air (Cooler Master Hyper 6)
MSI K8N Neo2
OCZ 3700EB 2x512MB + OCZ DDR Booster
Geforce 2MX (soon 6800Ultra, when these are available again in Germany)
Hitachi SATA 2x160GB
OCZ Powerstream 520W PSU
Cooler Master Stacker Case

@Gandauf12:
I would first try a psu with 30+ amps on the 12V line. I think that could really help you as you already singled out cpu or psu as the trouble maker. Also your 6800GT could be really power hungry. Btw how high cpu oc do you get with mem divider?
I already tried to go with an ide drive, doesn't make a difference. Now I'm running the Corsair 3200XL (but have only 1x512MB, so no dual channel). Seems to be stable at [email protected] So this means either my EB is crap or the combination of mobo + EB is unstable.
If this is confirmed with further testing I might try to RMA the EB for some 3200 Plat. Rev2 or just buy the new G.SKill DDR560 (They don't have a reseller in europe, so they ship it directly from Taiwan for only 260$ + 5$ shipping (2x512). I think, thats a real good deal here in Europe where you normally pay 320$+ for decent mem).
Hmm, 9x235 seems ok with the Corsair, now I will ty 240.

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1.Product Type: K8n Neo2 Platinum
2.BIOS version: 1.D
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5.Memory Type: OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K 2 x 512MB
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The RAM above is certified to run with my mainboard (K8n Neo2).
I have other RAM from OCZ which works fine.
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I have spoken to OCZ support and done the following:
Reset the CMOS
Increased voltage for the DRAM
Tried each of the new 512MB DIMMs individually.
But this has not helped and OCZ have no more suggestions other than to ensure that I have the latest BIOS, Which I think Id do.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks

hi there,
what is your RAM which you are trying to run? is it OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K 2 x 512MB matched pair?
ensure you have used mainboard DIMM slots: DIMM1 & DIMM2
where DIMM1 is the 1st DIMM slot close to CPU socket.
have you tested each of memory sticks individually using DIMM1 slot? if yes what are the results?
remove power cord from the PSU and Clear CMOS
re-try to boot.
you can setup memory vcore manually from BIOS to 2.75V and Command Rate to T2 (all memory timings leave it to Auto) and re-test.
get a copy of Memtest86 and ensure no errors will comes during testing.

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That's IT!! I've HAD it!! M_ther F_cker! M_ther F_cker! No MORE! Not Tonight!
I give up. I have messed with every single Memory timing and voltage setting. One stick of crucial memory works no matter what the settings are, and two sticks of crucial memory throw errors no matter what I do to the BIOS settings.
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...Speaker Beeps once, USB LEDS Hold at Green, Red, Green, Green...
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SATA detected as removable device K8N Neo2

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Dear unsaid,
The issue did not seen on this model. Please do physically touching the HSF on the processor to see if it’s warm on touch then you can know weather the readout is true or not, thanks.
Sincerely,
Technical Support Division
MSI Computer Corp.
1-626-913-0828
1-626-581-7721 Fax
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Sorry for my english!

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Just recently built up my first system, so I have been struggling with the fan issues too (they work, but I really want to know WHY and HOW they work).
The K8N Neo2 Platinum manual shows the SFAN1 and SFAN2 connector diagrams as having NC (no connection) on the speed sense lines for both system (case) fans. The CPUFAN1 and "Northbridge" NBFAN1 (used for the Nvidia Nforce3 chip's cooler) both are monitored and reported in SpeedFan or CoreCenter. As was posted, the ability of the Windows-based tools to control the fans is dependent on having the BIOS H/W Monitor CPU Fan Target set to "Disabled".
SFAN2 is used for my case exhaust fan, and it does seem to be running at less than full tilt, so maybe something is adjusting the voltage even if the speed cannot be monitored. Sure would be nice to have an MSI engineer weigh in on this (or for MSI to provide better documentation since these are enthusiast boards).
Just to complete the picture, I run my case intake fan at full voltage off a 4-pin Molex to keep the case slightly pressurized to help keep dust out (intake fan has a filter).
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