K8N Neo2 Platinum - Is the MSI IDE Driver required to run SATA RAID

I am using Windows XP and am booting from an IDE Disk.
I then added 2 x SATA Disks for RAID.
I changed the BIOS, Configured the Striping RAID Set and booted from the IDE Disk.
The PC detected the RAID Controller and I loaded the Driver.
Whatever I do the PC will only recognise the two SATA Drives as single drives not a RAID Set.
I did not load the MSI IDE Driver because I had read some threads that suggested there were problems with this.
I think the thread was related to problems with the errors in the Event Log related to the RAID driver.
Thanks
Richard

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[MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum] Is the motherboard dead? HOW? What? Hein?

Hey!
I am having big problems with my MSI K8N Neo2 54G Platinum. It was a really great board until the day the system could not power up. I pressed the button to turn it on and nothing happened. So I shutdown the switch of the PSU and switch it on again, while looking inside the case. This time the CPU and Northbridge fan moved, and the led of the wireless card turned on. But that happens only for half a second. The fans imediatly shut down. I checked if it was the problem of the case button, but it is not 'cause with a direct connection the same happens: the board won't boot. It doesn't even beep. Completely quiet. Any suggestions?
I am sorry for my English and thanks in advance
A64 3000+ 90nm s939
MSI K8N Neo2 54G Platinum
2x512 Patriot XBLK TCCD
200GB Sata
20A@12v PSU
PS: The computer was working fine 'till this happened.
Nukke.

Yes it can still be the PSU , e.g not accepting ps_on giving pwr_ok to mobo in-line with the correct timing specs .
It can also be motherboard not sensing pwr_ok from the psu .
The whole startup proceedure of a modern PC is complex and it is more to it than just amps and wattage and a on/off switch.
PSU itself does Power On Self Tests (POST) before the motherboard starts to powerup.
These tests determine if all the voltages are up to design specification and stable before sending a signal to the motherboard.
If the POST completes successfully, a POWER_GOOD or POWER_OK signal is sent to the processor over the POWER_GOOD line.
This signal must be continuously present for the system to operate and, if withdrawn (due to a brownout, for instance), will generate a system RESET.
The system will remain in a continuous RESET mode until the signal is restored. Since the processor initializes in the RESET mode, the system will not start until sensing the PWR_OK signal.
The AMD64 systems is strict to the power up sequence and at startup of a non mobile system
like this desktop motherboard the power state registers in the cpu is to be set/started correctly , and they are initialized with full power.
This aswell as the motherboard and PSUs cooperation of the ps_on/pwr_ok sequence and timing is in-line with
the latest atx spec makes it hard to say exactly where the problem is when things like this happends.
This is one of the major reasons we who replies here recommends "known" PSU brands , not only 12v=30A , cause
that "high enough" amperage don't mean s**it if the PSU is dodgy when it comes to theese other factors.
It's all quite complex , all that needs to be in-line and within given times and values that happens in the system when you hit the PCs on-button .
It involves sequences , initiations and values done by/in : CPU / p-states /LDT / Memory controller / motherboard / PSU , and more.
So an investment in a "good" ( known brand , respectable manufacturer, well reputated and with enough amperage ) PSU is a solid investment
that will serve you well for a long time , not only in current rig but down the road also .
Down the road if you also add some reserve for future updates when it comes to the strenght of power on it rails , then you may have goin_on it in several builds and updates.

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum and installing XP on WD 1TB Caviar Black SATA-II HDD...

I haven't flashed my BIOS ever. So some will be glad to hear that since I never needed to--but I think I might have to now.
My comp crashed (just made a very long story short ), so I bought a new HDD and it's the one described in the title. It's "SATA-II" as the misnomer goes but when I installed windows on it things seemed to go just fine (at least it didn't give me any errors)--indicating the mobo didn't have any trouble allowing to install (if it has anything to do with the install in the first place). And that was without a jumper to make it go to 150 mb/s (the HDD was OEM and didn't come with one :()
When I went to booted up again after installing, I received the renowned "Error loading operating system" message.
So! I figure I need to update the BIOS so it can better interface with the new HDD. Is that a correct assumption or could my error be due to something else (like the jumper)?
Thanks for any help!
EDIT: Forgot to mention that I already had/have a SATA-II drive (300 mb/s one) installed and working just fine, recognized by windows, before the crash...but it wasn't the boot drive...so maybe that makes a difference?
EDIT 2: I tried to use the BIOS util provided on these forums but I can't use it since I have no working install on the windows drive for my PC. I'll look on the other forum page for a way to make a USB BIOS flasher on an independent computer, but if you have the link for me, that'd be even better. If I find it soon, I'll edit this out. Thanks.
EDIT 3: Eh, so it looks like it just needed a good restart...everythings fine--no flashing needed. Woohoo!

Thank you for all the replies. Upgrading to the latest Nvidia IDE-drivers did not fix my problem. Moving to other SATA-ports did not help either. Upgrading the mobo's BIOS is not really an option (I'm using one version before the most recent and there isn't anything in the fixlist of the latest BIOS).
Now I've contacted Maxtor for (hopefully) a new firmware.
Quote from: rogueUK on 31-July-06, 16:55:42
insego please use the SEARCH BUTTON
I did use the search function to find other people with similar problems. The reason I started a topic of my own was because of the text you get while joining:
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Do not hijack another persons topic. If you have a similar problem, start your own thread anyway.
Maybe in retrospect I should first have tried the solutions in other topics.

K8N Neo2 Platinum: Whens the next bios update?

anyone have any ideas of when the next bios update will be coming out?..... just curious....

Nope... You did read the forum rules right? We are just a user to user tech forum. No lads from MSI are here to give you that kind of answer.

K8N NEO2 PLATINUM ATA-133 Raid ?

Hello,
My question is, is it possible to setup an Ata-133 raid on the K8N NEO2 PLATINUM (as the main boot drive). Currently I have 2 ata-133 drives and I want to upgrade to this board. I looked at the PDF manual and read the forums, but people usally talk about thier Sata drives.
If it is possible to have only a Ata-133 raid setup. How/what is the best way to set it up since there is only a primary and secondary ATA connection on the motherboard. Setup a master / slave on the primary 1 slot ? or put them on thier own channel ? Note, I read somewhere that optical drives ( cdroms,...) may have a problem if they share the channel with a harddrive that is raided. So thats my dilema.
Thanks in advanced,
Jim

Quote from: crossmax03 on 02-August-05, 20:58:06
jim,
did you ever get the RAID setup to work with the IDE drives?
i was trying to connect 2 ata100 drives on the IDE2 or IDE3 ports and the bios will not seem to detect them at all,
but the RAID controller DOES detect them.
however, it will try to boot from the master drive but restarts at the windows XP splash screen, every time.
-brian
Right. If we connect two IDE HDDs on one IDE1 or IDE 2 (as Master & Slave), and plan to set up RAID.Take IDE1 for example, as long as we set up Integrated Peripherals-->Onboard Device-->RAID Config-->IDE Primary Master&Secondary RAID-->Enabled, Save&exit setup; enter RAID bios to set RAID mode, all things would be ok. But if we want to install OS in this RAID, we must press F6 install RAID driver at the beginning of OS installation. If we only use them as normal storage, OS is in other HDD, we should install RAID driver in OS.
Besides, the two HDDs could not appear in Standard CMOS Features any more, which appear in RAID BIOS.

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum AND SATA2

i have MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum motherboard with 3500+ cpu and WD 160 hard sata disk.
I 'd like to ask if my MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum motherboard support sata2 hard disk drives, in order to know which HD to connect as a second HD drive, SATA or SATA 2 ??

It'll see SATA2 as regular SATA. You won't loose any speed either. There are no hard drives that actually benefit from SATA2 spec speeds. Well, maybe in isolated near theoretical benchmark cases one current model might be faster in SATA2 mode.
We just haven't got the technology yet.

Which SATA port on the K8N Neo2 Platinum?

Hi! I recently got a 160GB Maxtor DiamondMax 9 Plus hard drive, but I have read somewhere (i forgot where I read it) that two S-ATA ports on the K8N Neo2 Platinum will corrupt your hard drive data if you overclock. I dont know if this is still true (I have BIOS ver 1.8) but please could someone tell me which port I should connect my S-ATA drive to? (the only drive I have at the moment is a 160GB IDE drive). I dont want RAID. Thanks!

Quote from: Supershanks on 14-June-05, 18:46:14
If u go over 230 sata 1/2 are liable to corruption.
230GB i assume?

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum RAM problem

My spec:
AMD64 3000+ Venice
1gb RAM Elixir
1 x Maxtor 120gb IDE
1 x Maxtor 200gb SATA
1 x Maxtor 200gb IDE
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I have a K8N Neo2 Platinum motherboard, the problem is that when I try to add in another 512mb stick the system won't even boot up. I have tried other brands and amounts but still to no avail.
I boot the system up and the monitor won't even switch on, but if I take out the 512 stick it works fine.
Any ideas?

Not quite.
Use the color codes .
If you have matched sticks in density (size) and timings (spd data) you can run dual channel.
This means having one stick in memory channel 1 ( green ) and another in memory channel2 (purple )
Theese are physically wired next to eachother on the motherboard , from cpu and upwards..
You can not do that , with that mismatched modules the cpu can't initialize it's memory controller .
So your only choice is to run two modules with single memory channel config .
Use the colorcodes to make sure you use signgle memory channel config (since you have mismatched sticks and the A64 memory controller cant run those in dual mode)
So your choice is to use either both green slots or both of the purple ones .
Place the one module with the higest cas rating (slowest) in the green slot with the lowest slot number (marked on the board) .
And the other stick on the green slot that remains .

K8N Neo2 Platinum - SATA1/SATA2

I've seen some concerns on the forums about SATA1/SATA2 not being stable on this board. Is this still a valid concern if I do not overclock my machine? I plan on using a 300GB SATA Seagate on SATA1 as a drive where I will store my backups. I'll use an external USB 2.0 cabinet for the 300GB SATA drive if reliability is going to be a problem.
Your thoughts are appreciated,
Dan
Athlon 64 3500+
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
2GB RAM
ATI Radeon 9800
SATA1 - 300GB Seagate
SATA 3/4 - 120GB Seagate in RAID1
IDE Primary - 250GB Hitachi
IDE 3/4 - Plextor DVD-R
Western Digital 74GB Raptor
Antec True 430

Quote from: Ayato on 21-June-06, 22:27:27
I think all you said is very odd as i've succeeded in o/cing my 3800+ x2 at 10 x 233 whereas i plugged my Western Digital serial ata Hdd on serial port 1, and i'm not running any instability pbs or overheats, am i lucky or is it due to the latest official bios version ??
Then how long have you OCED it? but be aware then you might screwed it out but just in matters of time.
I agreed with Syar's explanations as ocing the system at that range may caused instability. However, I do experience on my own as I did screwed my HDD SATA WD where I've OCed at 225-230 my HDD is totally burn due to the OCing.

When will the MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum BIOS 1.C be released?

Hello
When will the MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum BIOS 1.C be released?
Thanks
FearTec

Don´t know the reason for you guys, for updating bios, but basically I would recommend Syars modded EasyBios, based on the 1C3 (1C0) version.
Check out the link in Syars sig or read it here;
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=59711.0
and read about the differant version and you´ll get a pretty good idea whats changed and added.

The build in firewall in MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum

Hello everyone,
I am using an MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum-54G nForce3. I wonder if anyone else is using the built in firewall? I have some problems with my Internet connection and I think it is firewall related.
I would like to know if anyone else has any valuable feedback on this subject.
Thank you!

Works fine for me, make sure you have the latest drivers installed and turn off any other firewall including the Windows one. You will find that you may have to set up some rules to open up ports for some apps. I have set mine up to play Farcry and now get no Punkbuster problems.
I am using the Nvidia ethernet to connect toe the internet and the Realtek to network my second PC.

MSI K8N Neo2 platinum driver

At the time of the installation of the driver, one proposes to us the installation of driver IDE SW. Should they be installed yes or not?
Thank
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AMD 64X2 4200+
XP Pro
2 DD sata
2 Go RAM
???

Quote from: Draxx on 14-July-06, 01:47:01
I'd say yes, I have never had any problems with the SW IDE driver on NF2 or NF3.
With my old nForce2 motherboard i hawe many problems with SW IDE drivers. On my new MSI nForce3 all works fine !

System suddenly won't power on (MSI K8N NEO2 PLATINUM NFORCE3)

System specs are
COOLERMASTER TAC-T01 WAVE MASTER ALUMINUM ATX 4X5.25 1X3.5 4X3.5INT case
MSI K8N NEO2 PLATINUM NFORCE3 ULTRA S939 AGP 5PCI SATA 1394 SOUND 1000LAN
KINGSTON HYPERX 1024MB DUAL CHANNEL KIT PC3500 2X512MB DDR 433MHZ 184PIN
ATI Radeon X800XT PE AGP
SEAGATE BARRACUDA 7200.7 200GB SATA 8MB 7200RPM 8.5MS OEM
CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY 2 ZS 7.1 1394 PCI RETAIL BOX
LITEON 16X DVD-ROM INT E-IDE RETAIl
MITSUMI FA404A 7-IN-1 FLOPPY DRIVE & FLASH READER CF/SM/SD/MMC/MS
LG 4163b dvd burner
Nothing has ever been overclocked on this system.
Everything is plugged into a Belkin Surgemaster powerbar.
I haven't mentioned the power supply. I'll get to that. I have been using an ANTEC NEOPOWER 480W POWER SUPPLY (ATX12V DUAL 12V RAILS ACTIVE PFC W/ DETACHABLE OUTPUT CABLES) for about a year on this system without
any issues. One morning, I wake up, hit the power button on my coolermaster case, and nothing happens.
CPU fan won't even spin. Nothing happens.
O.k., blown power supply, I think . . . .
So I take out my Antec and put it in another system. That system turns on
without any problems.
Hmm . . .
I come here, and I read posts about
potential compatibility issues with Antec power supplies. But if it's a compatibility
issue why was my system working for about a year?
O.k., fine. I'll buy a Enermax 535W EG565P-VE FMA 24P (115/230 VAC) power supply.
I just plug it into the mainboard (nothing else). Hit the power button . . .
The CPU fan spins for half a second, and then nothing.
Did my motherboard just suddenly die for no reason?
Any suggestions?

Pull the AC plug from PSU and set cmos in clear position with battery removed for atlest 20 minutes perhaps longer .
Then try to post the system barebone .
Just cpu,1 pcs memory in slot 1 , gfx card , and keyboard in PS2.
No usb devices at all including card reader and no pci cards harddisks or cdoms/dvd/floppy.
It could also be caused by a short or a malfunctioning fan connected to mobo.
Try to disconnect all case fans from mobo headers if you have any connected to additional fan holders.
The chipset fan can also be disconnected momentarily just to see if it posts.
If none of this helps , replace cmos battery and try again .

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HI! i'm the one wih the raid problem on a k8n neo2....
That's what a i Did.. i unpacked the exe and copy the files in a floppy... question is: if i do that, windows instaler askme for some files that aren't in the .exe, anway it reconices the raid and everithing goes fine until the first BOOT on windos... it shows a blue screen, butremoves it so fast that i cant read it or pause the system. But i know it's a raid problem because if i install it on a ide disk it works.
The nforce3 drivers are almost a year old, and i'm not sure if nforce4 is compatible...
I think the're compatible because if you enter in msi driver download page and select my model, they put the Nforce3 and nforce4 for win64 and my model is only nforce3. The thing is they havent released the nforce3 for WIN 64.... So.. It's normal that win asks me for some files that ain't in the .zip file (i extracted the files o course) and Which driver should i put the Nvidia one year old nforce3 or the new nforce4. (the nforce3 for 32 bits is rejected by windows) or... i have to wait the new nforce3?
thanks for helps

K8N-Neo2 Platinum pauses for 25 sec at boot, nvatabus.sys the problem?

All,
After POSTing normally and starting to load Windows XP, my system halts at the Windows XP splash screen for about 25 seconds. Nothing happens, no disk activity or anything, the system just sits there.
I used Microsoft's Bootvis utility to see what was happening. It turns out that the nvatabus.sys driver consumes 100% CPU at boot for 25 seconds then the system continues to boot normally. Does anyone else see anything like this?
I am running the latest nForce drivers from MSI. The driver in question:
NVIDIA nForce3 Serial ATA Controller 2.6
Driver Date 6/3/2004
c:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\nvatabus.sys 5.10.2600.0446
Windows XP SP1
I have a RAID1 of two 160 GB SATA drives. The mirror is healthy and working fine.
After booting the system is rock-solid stable, no problems there. It's just this unexplained pause at boot. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this?

ok check it out guy's this thing drove me insane all night last night and most of today. I was ready to return everything and give up. But alas all is not lost. Here is the rundown on what i just did.
My Equipment:
Athlon 64 3800+(w/ stock fan)
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum Socket 939
2X512 Corsair TWINX1024-3200XLPRO ( with the cool led's )
2 SATA HD (1 Maxtor Diamond10 300 GB w/ 16mb cache, 1 Segate 160GB w/8mb cache)
PP&C 425 ATX Deluxe
Radeon 9700 Pro ( cat 4.8 )
Audigy2 ZS
Sony Floppy
Sony 8x52x52x32 DVD Rewrite
I have been reading and reading just like all you guy's. On a few websites i would pick up bits and pieces on what to try. Heres what i did. Upon Boot up i entered the bios. I then went to Cell Soft and adjusted my timings for my memory. I was at 2.5 not 2.75. I then set my speed down to 166. Exited and restarted. Big mistake everything ri=uns terrible slow and my expensive DDR 400 memory was showing up correctly at 333. Rebooted again entered the bios. reset my speed to 400. Then set the Overclock feature to manual. Set my timings at 2,2,5,2 200 and 2.75 volts. After saving settings and exiting I then turned off the computer. As per some other suggestions I moved my Audigy2 to the bottom most pci slot the one above the orange slot. I moved my memory to slots 2 and 4. I moved my SATA to slots 3 and 4. I rebooted went into the bios again and setup all my voltages. CPU was Auto, AGP was max yellow setting. Memory still at 2.75. I disabled the onboard serial and parrallel ports. Rebooted
Fearing the worst,
5 seconds, 10 seconds, windows screen loging prompt. There was nothing wrong at all. It rebooted effortlessly. It re found my Audigy card and wanted driver but that was it. I am going to reboot a few more times and then run sisandra to test. I hope some of this will help you. I post in a few after some of those reboots.

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