K8N Neo2 Platinum overclocking - get any better than this?

I know only slightly more than nothing about overclocking, especially when it comes to dividers (what's a divider?) and so far I've managed this stable overclock on the specified CPU (using stock AMD cooling):
But I can't get the memory clock to 400MHz dual channel (yep, I'm using different brands):
Is there any way I can get better overclocking out of this kit? I've been upping the FSB in steps of 5 and 240 eludes me (freeze at Windows boot, but I may be able to creep closer in steps of 1). I haven't tried to improve AGP yet - it's still at 66MHz in the BIOS - but any feedback with regards the CPU, RAM (and timings) and everything else will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Quote from: Exo on 17-June-07, 22:35:54
First off all, you're mixing ram. That's a bad thing to do even for a stock system, let alone overclocking. As you can see from the SPD tab, both memory sticks have completely diffirent timings. My advice is to get a matched pair of ram - 2 identical sticks. You need a memory upgrade anyway, 512Mb is not enough these days and slow you down so much the oc becomes pointless imo.
You can try to enter the slowest timings (3-6-6-11) manually in bios. As you can see from the memory tab, the actual timings used are way tighter then the SPD timings of the OCZ dimm. Altough the OCZ SPD timings are for 263Mhz the used timings might still be too tight for it.
There are 2x512Mb Corsair + 2x512Mb OCR in there that, unfortunately, won't be getting changed anytime soon. :-(
Quote from: Exo on 17-June-07, 22:35:54
You might also be hitting the max of your cpu - Lower the CPU multiplier and check if you can clock the bus higher.
Upping the bus is easy enough, but where in the vanilla BIOS is the option to decrease the multiplier?

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K8N Neo2 Platinum overclocking problem

Quote from: Sharp on 24-April-05, 06:04:48
Hello,
In the BIOS you must set the FSB:DRAM ratio to 1:1.
Set the HTT (hypertransport Ratio to x4)
Set the CPU ratio to x4 (just too see if it will work.)
Set the FSB to 250Mhz
Set the Vcore to 1.45v.
Set the memory timings to SPD (or default values for DDR500)
Set the memory voltage to 2.7v, 2.75v or 2.8v.
Save and exit
Then let it boot from the memtest bootdisk.
Use memtest to see if it is ok, test for a long time, over 1 hour.
http://www.memtest.org/download/1.55.1/memtest86+-1.55.1.floppy.zip
Tight timings and high FSB is even better
I have the same problem I can go as high as fsb 219 without tweaking anything but the FSB. My system is about the same only my ram is ddr 400 so what should my mem volt and timg should be set to?

K8N Neo2 Platinum Overclock

Can't OC for anything? Whats the problem?
Well, my system configuration is as in my sig.
I havent been able to get a decent stable OC on this rig no matter what I try.
Best OC I have attained (100% stable) is this:
CPU: 13 x 207 = 2691Mhz
HTT: 5 x 207 = 1035Mhz
Memory: 207 x 2 = 414Mhz @ 2-2-2-10-2T
I've made these tweaks in the bios during OC:
Turned off Cool'N'Quiet
Turned off Spread Spectrum
Now, If I continue on this trend the computer stops being stable at over this amount of FSB.
So obviously, I drop the HTT and CPU Multiplier and am allowed to kick up the FSB some more.
CPU: 225Mhz x 12 = 2700Mhz
HTT: 225Mhz x 4 = 900Mhz
Memory: 225 x 2 = 450Mhz @ 2.5-3-3-10-2T
However, once again with mixed results.
Prime95 bombs after about 5 minutes. (Increases to vCore do not help)
Memory is 100% perfect running Memtest for an hour.
Why am I having all these problems? Even on stock cooling it's not getting very hot.

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Originally posted by DaveRun
I've found (through other forum postings) some tables of memory ratios on dfi-street.com part way down on this site
The link gives a good explanation of the many potential memory settings as well.
There is a link to a table there with the effective memory ratios for the different A64 multiplier settings here
From one of the links:
"3. You must NOT use a 4x CPU multi, because this puts your ram at 4:5 or slower
Can someone explain to me why this is so? I think the author is referring to HTT multiplier. If this is true it would explain alot.

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K8N Neo2 Platinum resets overclock....

Sorry about asking a stupid question.
Quote from: the_cultie on 25-May-05, 17:50:12
Are you using CoreCenter to overclock? What version is your BIOS? Post system specs.
Quote from: tahuru on 25-May-05, 14:24:45
the overclocking is done solely in bios.
Anyway, there seems to be different problems relating to waking up from sleep, I know that Cool'n'Quiet would stop working when I would wake up from sleep. I'll try overclocking mine a bit and I'll get back to you.
Also, check that the Save/Clear CMOS jumper is in the right position.

K8N Neo2 Platinum resets overclock....

Hello
K8N Neo2 Platinum resets my overclock to default speed when waking up from sleep... the overclocking is done solely in bios.
I have a Winnie 3200+ running @ 2.4Ghz with 1.45V .. when waking up .. the Vcore remains the same but the clock sets itself to 2.0Ghz.
What am I doing wrong .. or it is something wrong with my board.
Thanks in advance.

Sorry about asking a stupid question.
Quote from: the_cultie on 25-May-05, 17:50:12
Are you using CoreCenter to overclock? What version is your BIOS? Post system specs.
Quote from: tahuru on 25-May-05, 14:24:45
the overclocking is done solely in bios.
Anyway, there seems to be different problems relating to waking up from sleep, I know that Cool'n'Quiet would stop working when I would wake up from sleep. I'll try overclocking mine a bit and I'll get back to you.
Also, check that the Save/Clear CMOS jumper is in the right position.

Kingston HyperX Memory & K8N Neo2 Platinum

Hello.
I have a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum board (BIOS 1.3) with AMD 64 3000+ 939 CPU.
I am trying to run this with 2 Kingston HyperX PC3200 512MB memory (KHX3200ULK2/1G). This is the latest "Ultra-low Latency" memory from Kingston.
When I run this memory with NO overclocking at 2-2-2-5-1 at 2.7 volts (standard setting for this memory) with a single module, I get NO errors. When I try both chips in dual-channel mode, I get errors (on MemTest86).
(I also get errors if I run this memory on "Auto" setting in BIOS)
I CAN run 2 sticks of Crucial PC3200 512MB (regular, not Ballistix) at standard settings in dual-channel with no errors.
Has anyone got this memory to work on this board in dual-channel mode? If so, how? At what timings?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Originally posted by Xak
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Originally posted by GlennVidia
In the meantime...
Try loosening up the memory timings first, start with 2-2-2-8 thru 2-2-2-11
Then if no luck try 2-3-2-6 thru 10 or 11 you may even have to resort to 2.5 3-3-X
You should be able to at least find a sweeter spot.
You may even have to go to 2T and non aggressive settings.
Why would the timings work when in single channel mode, but not in dual channel, when the Crucial memory works fine in dual channel at the same timings used in single channel?
On a side note, the Kingston pair was purchased together in a matched set, while the 2 Crucial sticks (actually the memory from my system) were bought seperately over a month apart.
The timings that RZT tried are the exact ones Kingston specifies for that model, there should be NO reason whatsoever they wouldn't work at those timings, dual or single channel.
Please correct me if I am wrong...
First of all, I said "in the meantime," meaning until someone else came up with a better answer. If I have problems with memory, regardless of what the manufacturer says' I hunt for a sweetspot (if there is one).
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Why would the timings work when in single channel mode, but not in dual channel, when the Crucial memory works fine in dual channel at the same timings used in single channel?
That's like trying to compare apples to oranges. Two different manufacturers and likely different chips onboard, not to mention likely different PCB design.
What I suspect is either one stick is further out of spec than the other and they are not a properly matched pair. Kingston has a history with the nForce chipset which leaves little to be desired.
That is why you might see very similar systems, and one works with the same ram, and the other doesn't. It's called parametric differences. In short, one stick my be at the upper end of the spec and the other stick may be at the lower end. Then, throw in the motherboard, and the CPU, (now with the onboard memory controller) while we're at it, and you have a real touchy situation. There is little room for lower quality. That is why matched pairs exist. Doesn't mean it's mandatory, however.
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On a side note, the Kingston pair was purchased together in a matched set, while the 2 Crucial sticks (actually the memory from my system) were bought seperately over a month apart.
I take it you know this person, otherwise this is not making sense or you are a pretty slick hijacker
Matched set can still be flawed, I get em from the best once in a while. It may not be the RAM at all. Only way to tell for sure is to try it on another identical system or try another pair that passes muster in another identical system. All this speculating is useless unless you've exhausted all possibilities.
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The timings that RZT tried are the exact ones Kingston specifies for that model, there should be NO reason whatsoever they wouldn't work at those timings, dual or single channel.
Please correct me if I am wrong...
Not wrong, maybe a little overoptimistic. Some situations warrant different measures. It's not that black and white, nor is it written in stone. At this point it only indicates there is indeed a problem, where it lies, would be better off using a dartboard to guess at this point.

NOOB -MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum questions

Hi
I coming from an Intel background but am now considering changing to AMD; i'd like to keep my agp x800xt pe card and get a MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum board but have got a few questions /concerns.
I have looked on several forums including MSI's own forum and noticed people having problems with corsair value select memory modules.
My questions which i'd be grateful for answers to are:
1. Am gamer and planning to also purchase a 4000+ to put in it - will the board recognise it straight away or will I need to update BIOS..
2. Want to transfer my current 4x512mb 3200 Corsair Value Select sticks to my new board - will there be any compatibility problems? (cannot afford to buy new memory)
3. Will I be able to run the memory 200 + ? as heard the boards base clock for a 4000+ is 166
4. If I can run these at 200 can i do this straight away or will i need to overclock them slowly to get to 200 (will the board see them as 3200 and start at 200?)
5. Anything else I should know/look out for?
Many thanks to all. My first post here so hello to everyone.

Hello !!
Let´s try to answer your questions...
1. It depends on which Bios Version is installed out of the Box, i suggest version 1.8, if you are not using a Venice / Dual-Core or later CPU Core. The advantages of biosses later than version 1.8 are the new Steppings Support and some new Memory Timing Options available in Bios Setup.
2. I do not know exactly, i think most corsair sticks are running well on this Board if you are not going to overclock. But it depends on which Chips are used your Corsair Modules. What could be a problem is that you are going to use 4 Ram Sticks, because with Winchester Cores you would not be able to run 4 Sticks in PC3200Dual Channel Mode (DDR333), even if your Ram would be 100% compatible with your MOBO. Venice and later Cores are able to handle 4 sticks at 400Mhz DDR clock. Except you own 4 single sided Ram Modules.
3. Should be possible if your memory likes it.....
4. No, the Bios will recognize your SPD Timings. So you will have to overclock them from a 166Mhz Memory Divider Base.
5. Take a look here:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46730
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=72024.0
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/7025/memory.pdf
Good Luck
Greetz MurdoK

Best ram for MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum Edition?

Ho guys
Im getting a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum Edition this week but cant decide what memory to use what is the best memory for this board here
are my options.
http://www.stegcomputer.ch/details.asp?prodid=kin-KHX32-1c2
http://www.brack.ch/aspx/default.aspx?ID=17879&mod=artikel
http://www.brack.ch/aspx/default.aspx?ID=17636&mod=artikel
http://www.brack.ch/aspx/default.aspx?ID=17885&mod=artikel
http://www.1000ordi.ch/2500
I will be overclocking.
Any help would be appreciated

Quote from: mehdi on 13-July-05, 22:09:22
XL's is verified by anand to top at 2-3-3 on DDR466 so this would be how much of a oce on a 3700sandy at those timings.
Well the 3700 San Diego har a max multilplier equals 11 and you can use the lower ones also .
So you have more options than one to reach say you set a goal for 2700mhz assuming you have air cooling (2.7ghz seems to be what most aim for without extreme cooling)
HTT reference clock at 233 with memory index 200 times multiplier 11 gives 2530mhz on the cpu and 233mhz/466DDR on the memory .
To maintain same memory speed (around or below 233mhz) with higher cpu frequency you must use a divider by setting max memory speed to 166 etc and use a higher HTT clock reference .
E.g
HTT=270
Multiplier=10
Memory index=166
Gives CPU/12 divider
CPU is then 2.7ghz
Memory speed = cpuspeed/12 = 2700/12 = 225mhz or DDR450 .
Multilplier memory index dividers:
7x with 133 : cpu/11
8x with 133 : cpu/12
9X with 133 : cpu/14
10x with 133 : cpu/15
11x with 133 : cpu/17
7x with 166 : cpu/9
8x with 166 : cpu/10
9X with 166 : cpu/11
10x with 166 : cpu/12
11x with 166 : cpu/13
7x with 183 : cpu/8
8x with 183 : cpu/9
9X with 183 : cpu/10
10x with 183 : cpu/11
11x with 183 : cpu/13
7x with 200 : cpu/7
8x with 200 : cpu/8
9X with 200 : cpu/9
10x with 200 : cpu/10
11x with 200 : cpu/11
( with 200 you will se the divider is the same as multiplier , thats why some calls this 1:1 )
There are also some tables for the dividers made by orcar wu over at extremesystems in this thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41595&highlight=a64+divider+table]
Using this calculation you can figure out your ram frequency before trying it in the bios .
E.g use 183 mem index/divider with cpu multiplier 10x with 2.7ghz as the target .
10 x 270 = 2700
memory will run at
2700/11 = ~ 245mhz or DDR490

K8N NEO2 Platinum rebooting

Hi all,just got myself a 64bit MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum board & a 3200+,am happy with it but a couple of days ago i got a blue screen with a long message that i didnt have time to read before the pc rebooted,after the reboot i checked the event viewer log file in administrative tools/control panel but couldnt narrow it down as my particular error code wasnt among the possible causes.
Among some of the possible causes were incorrectly installed USB drivers or the BIOS,i downloaded the latest BIOS update before this problem started(V1.40) which i am using now,i used the MSI live update software to flash it which i did in windows mode.Sorry for prattling on!well it did it again tonight and i managed to read a bit of the writing on the blue screen which mentioned flashing the bios to the latest version.I was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem and if so could you please advise me? Thanks for your patience and any help Heres my sys specs:
Model: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
Speed: 2.01GHz
Model Number: 3200 (estimated)
Performance Rating: PR3015 (estimated)
Type: Standard
L2 On-board Cache: 512kB ECC Synchronous Write-Back (16-way, 64
byte line size)
Bus(es): ISA AGP PCI USB FireWire/1394
MP Support: 1 CPU(s)
MP APIC: No
System BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG
Mainboard: MS-7025
Total Memory: 1023MB DDR-SDRAM
Model: Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) ???
(00E1)
Front Side Bus Speed: 1x 201MHz (201MHz data rate)
Model: Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 /
Opteron HyperTransport Technology
Configuration
Front Side Bus Speed: 1x 201MHz (201MHz data rate)
Total Memory: 2048MB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed: 2x 201MHz (402MHz data rate)
Monitor/Panel: CTX EX950F series
Adapter: RADEON X800 Series
Adapter: RADEON X800 Series Secondary
Removable Drive: Floppy disk drive
Hard Disk: Maxtor 6Y080L0
CD-ROM/DVD: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4081B (CD 32X Rd, 24X Wr)
(DVD 4X Rd, 3X Wr)
CD-ROM/DVD: MSI CD-RW CR52 (CD 40X Rd, 52X Wr)
CD-ROM/DVD: AXV CD/DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd)
(DVD 4X Rd)
1.44MB 3.5" (A:): N/A
Hard drive (C:): 76.3GB (51.9GB, 68% Free) (NTFS)
CD-ROM/DVD (D:): N/A
CD-ROM/DVD (E:): N/A
CD-ROM/DVD (F:): N/A
Serial/Parallel Port(s): 1 COM / 1 LPT
USB Controller/Hub: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub: USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub: USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub: USB Root Hub
FireWire/1394 Controller/Hub: VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Keyboard: Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/
2 Keyboard
Mouse: PS/2 Compatible Mouse
Device: Creative SB Live! series
Device: Creative Game Port
Model: EPSON Stylus CX3200
Windows System: Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Home (Win32 x86)
5.01.2600 (Service Pack 2)
Network Drivers Enabled: Yes
Warning 100: Large memory sizes should be made of
Registered/Buffered memory.
Tip 101: Large memory sizes should be made of ECC/
Parity memory.
>
>
Device Type: VGA Video Adapter
Device ID: bus 1, device 0, function 0
Windows Device Name: RADEON X800 Series
OEM Device Name: ATI Technologies ??? (4A49)
OEM Hardware ID: FUN_0, VEN_1002, DEV_4A49, REV_00
Device Name: PC Partner Ltd ??? (4A49)
Product ID: VEN_174B, DEV_0D42
Revision: A / 1 (0)
Version: 3.00
Command Queue Length: 256
Fast-Writes Support: Yes
Over 4GB Addressing Support: No
Isochronous Mode Support: No
Addressing Support: 32-bit
Data Transfer Modes Support: 4x 8x

My K8N Neo Platinum [754] did not include a NB fan. But this usually means the overall size of the heatsink is larger. If you remove the fan from yours, the size of the heatsink will not be big enough to cool your NB. As for temps, I've never seen my NB get hotter than 45'C. Note that the core on my NB should be slightly different than yours.
You could try to use the BIOS fan control for the NB. If set correctly, it should reduce some noise.

Need help with k8n neo2 platinum

I've just installed a new k8n neo2 platinum s939 board with a venice core 3200+ cpu the htt is 2000 and multiplier 10x.
I've gone to the core cell menu and set the htt to 4x (seemed to be this at default) and the max mem clock at 166 (more about this in a moment), the fsb will go quite easily up to 250mhz even 255mhz, but when I try 260 Mhz the machine when it reboots shows the initial slash screen but then goes to a blank screen with the cursor flashing in the top left hand corner, I can't even get back into the bios setup without clearing the cmos.
The odd thing is that the adjust cpu vid is showing a voltage of 1.50 and not 1.40 or startup.
Anyway with the fsb at 250mhz the bios screen is showing the Current ddr clock at 208 mhz ( not the max memclock setting of 166) the memory in the motherboard ( a crucial 512meg ddr333 single stick) seems to perform OK according to memtest which shows no errors after 2 cycles.
Any attempt to get to 260mhz fsb appears to fail even by upping the cpu vid to 1.525v unless i adjust the cpu voltage setting which by default is set to (by cpu vid) to +3.3%. Doing this enables me to get to fsb 260mhz but the memtest fails ( even when I set the max memclock to 133, which shows my current ddr speed at 174mhz, well below the 208mhz which appeared stable with the fsb at 250mhz?)
So firstly why are there two cpu voltage settings in the bios when my manual only shows 1 (there is no mention of this cpu vid setting?
How is it that my memory is stable at 208mhz with a fsb of 255mhz but unstable at 174mhz with the fsb set at 260mhz?
Why does the memory clock lock not appear to be working, the memory should be fixed at 166mhz but infact increases with fsb?
I have bios revision 1.5.
Please help as I am not familiar with the bios settings for this nforce 3 chipset, they seem rather odd to me. I'm sure my venice core 3200+ cpu can get beyond 250mhz fsb, I have another pc with a venice core 3000+ cpu which runs quite happily at 270mhz fsb.
PS I've tried reducing the htt to 3x but the same thing happens.

OK further feed back, I can get to over 260mhz fsb but the system is not stable the memory runs OK with mem test but I have problems with prime95.
I had to up the cpu core voltage to 1.53v to get to 260mhz using the cpu voltage setting in the bios and setting a 5% increase. increasing the cpu vid setting to 1.55v did not seem to do anything at all the core voltage was still at 1.43v.
I upped the mem voltage to 2.6v from 2.5 but still could not get the system to be stable, it may be that the memory is holding the system back but I don't want to pay for better memory at the moment. Unless anyone has got any other ideas it looks like I may be forced to settle with 250mhz, well still a 500mhz increase maybe not that bad. I've now to try 3d benchmarking using my radeon 9600xt and 3dmark 03.

K8N Neo2 Platinum Ordered - Advice for a noob please

Hi there,
this seems like a great forum, was hoping someone could give me some advice - Im trying to pre-empt any major probs....
I am a relative noob to building P.C's - done a few P4 based systems before but this will be my first Athlon based. This systems primary use will be gaming. I have the following on order (should be with me next week) : -
a) MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum Edition SCK 939 Motherboad
b) AMD ATHLON 64 3500+ 64bit SCK 939 Retail Inc Fan
c) 160GB Maxtor Calypso 8mb Cache 7200 SATA DHH
Components I have already
a) Graphics Card - Nvidia 6800 GT
b) Memory - Generic 2 X 512MB PC2700 DDR333 RAM
c) Sound Card - Creative SB Live Value
d) PSU - Jeantech 450W (22a on 12V Rail)
e) Case - pretty generic full tower case - no fans attached
f) CPU FAN - COOLERMASTER HYPER 48 SUPER SILENT HEATPIPE
g) Spare Hard drive - 120GB Maxtor IDE Hard drive
h) DVD Drives - 1 x Pioneeer 108 / 1 x Pioneer 104
I) Monitors - Ilyama 17" TFT & Toshiba 32WL36P LCD
I have some 'noobish' questions - apologies for my ignorance : -
1) Memory - Will my memory be okay ? Should I ditch it and buy some Corsair DDR400 (which everyone else seems to have!). Will performance suffer if I stick with the DDR 333 ? Do I need to adjust settings in BIOS regarding memory timing ? (I only picked up on this from reading through other posts on this board, and am totally clueless on 'timing'- Ive never needed to adjust timing on any previous PC's....!)
2) Sound Card - will I be better off sticking with the onboard sound on the MSI K8N neo 2 ? Or for best performance do I go with the SB LIve ? (god its a nightmare trying to get updated drivers for this card), Would I get a noticable performance increase buying an Audigy 2?
3) Vcore / other power issues - Reading this forum Im kinda scared by many posts along the lines of "..for stability I need to change my memory voltage to xx-V" or "...for a stable system I needed to change my Vcore to xx-V". Will I need to change the Bios default values on this system just to get it to run stably??
4) CPU FAN - Are AMD stock fans any good ? My Hyper 48 is quite highly rated....
5) Im completely new to SATA drives, but Ive printed off the very useful install guide on this site (which I intend to use). Is there anything I need to look out for concerning adding my IDE drive also.
I think thats about it just now - if anyone can see any other potential problems with my specs then please let me know. Im really not trying to be negative / pessimistic - after all the reason I have went for this motherboard is that it is rated as one of the best. Im just a bit paranoid that the dreaded B.S.O.D awaits me!
On a more positive note - does anyone have similar system specs they use for gaming ? How well does HL2 / Doom3 / Farcry etc fly J ? I cant wait !
Thanks for the time

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System suddenly won't power on (MSI K8N NEO2 PLATINUM NFORCE3)

System specs are
COOLERMASTER TAC-T01 WAVE MASTER ALUMINUM ATX 4X5.25 1X3.5 4X3.5INT case
MSI K8N NEO2 PLATINUM NFORCE3 ULTRA S939 AGP 5PCI SATA 1394 SOUND 1000LAN
KINGSTON HYPERX 1024MB DUAL CHANNEL KIT PC3500 2X512MB DDR 433MHZ 184PIN
ATI Radeon X800XT PE AGP
SEAGATE BARRACUDA 7200.7 200GB SATA 8MB 7200RPM 8.5MS OEM
CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY 2 ZS 7.1 1394 PCI RETAIL BOX
LITEON 16X DVD-ROM INT E-IDE RETAIl
MITSUMI FA404A 7-IN-1 FLOPPY DRIVE & FLASH READER CF/SM/SD/MMC/MS
LG 4163b dvd burner
Nothing has ever been overclocked on this system.
Everything is plugged into a Belkin Surgemaster powerbar.
I haven't mentioned the power supply. I'll get to that. I have been using an ANTEC NEOPOWER 480W POWER SUPPLY (ATX12V DUAL 12V RAILS ACTIVE PFC W/ DETACHABLE OUTPUT CABLES) for about a year on this system without
any issues. One morning, I wake up, hit the power button on my coolermaster case, and nothing happens.
CPU fan won't even spin. Nothing happens.
O.k., blown power supply, I think . . . .
So I take out my Antec and put it in another system. That system turns on
without any problems.
Hmm . . .
I come here, and I read posts about
potential compatibility issues with Antec power supplies. But if it's a compatibility
issue why was my system working for about a year?
O.k., fine. I'll buy a Enermax 535W EG565P-VE FMA 24P (115/230 VAC) power supply.
I just plug it into the mainboard (nothing else). Hit the power button . . .
The CPU fan spins for half a second, and then nothing.
Did my motherboard just suddenly die for no reason?
Any suggestions?

Pull the AC plug from PSU and set cmos in clear position with battery removed for atlest 20 minutes perhaps longer .
Then try to post the system barebone .
Just cpu,1 pcs memory in slot 1 , gfx card , and keyboard in PS2.
No usb devices at all including card reader and no pci cards harddisks or cdoms/dvd/floppy.
It could also be caused by a short or a malfunctioning fan connected to mobo.
Try to disconnect all case fans from mobo headers if you have any connected to additional fan holders.
The chipset fan can also be disconnected momentarily just to see if it posts.
If none of this helps , replace cmos battery and try again .

Reloading Windows XP on K8N Neo2 Platinum

Hello. I haven't been in this forum for quite a long time. I am refurbishing a computer I built in 2005, and need to reload Windows XP. This machine has a K8N Neo2 Platinum motherboard. Processor is an Athlon 64 4000+ (single core). My bootable hardrive is an IDE (PATA). I also have 2 SATA drives for data. None are connected in RAID. I have already updated my BIOS from V1.B to V1.D (current).
I am trying to remember the process I went through 3 yrs ago to get Windows XP. Here are a few questions:
1. Should I un-plug my 2 independent (non-bootable) SATA drives while I am doing the initial Windows XP install?
2. Do I need to hit F6 and load drivers? If so, I assume I should get the latest storage drivers, rather than using the floppy that came with the Mobo. Or, do I need to load anything with F6, ie will the windows XP install recognize my single IDE drive? If I need to load any drivers, are there separate drivers for RAID vs non-RAID ?
3. After getting Windows XP loaded, can I just run the MSI Live Update utility to get all of the remaining drivers updated? My BIOS is current (V1.D). Is there any reason I should go out to AMD or nVidia web sites to get drivers, or should MSI have all of the latest for this mobo?
Any help appreciated,
- bbdude

1. Yep its recommended, when installation is done add them.
2. No, do not load any drivers.
3. Use drivers from MSI Web: http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=587

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Here are the links to both of them:
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8N_Neo2_Platinum&class=mb
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8N_Neo2-F&class=mb

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Hi, I just build my new machine, and after much problems I finally have it up and running at stocks speeds just fine, the problem is that I spent a lot of money buying Top-Brand components so I could overclock a lot, (I like It) but I cant seem to go upweard of 205FSB!! anything above that and the board wont boot at all forcing me to clear the Cmos!! I find this completely unaceptable for this board, being that my last board (an Msi one with nforce2) could overclock and athlon XP 2500+ barton all the way up to a 2800+!! Im really dissapointed at this, if someone could give me a few pointers as to what tweak in the bios (Im using 1.3 right now) it will be very thankful!! ok, my specs are below, thanks!!
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Msi k8N Neo2 Platinum with 1.3bios
2+512mb Crucial Ballistix pc3200 cl2
BFG Nvidia Geforce 6800Gt
36gb Raptor Hdd
Enermax 420W power supply
Thanks!!!

I think your problem is your power supply. Check what that MAX amp on your 12V rail.
I have nearly the exact same setup as you do and was unable to overclock the memory without lowering the memory timings much earlier than I expected too. For me I'm able to raise my FSB up to 207 at 2-2-2 timings. The max overclock I achieved was 220 X11 at 2.5-3-3 for a speed of 2420mghz. But it was not completly stable (it would bout but would lock up while gamming). I had expected much better results than this... I bought good memory (Ballistix pc4000) I had a good 480W power supply... my processors ceilling should be around 2.6ghz. After reading this review on Anand Tech I think I found the answer... Athlon 64 Memory: Rewriting the Rules
On page 10 they make the remark that their Antec True Power 465W power suply was limiting their ability to overclock memory.... The Antec True Power is rated to supply 22A on the 12v rail. My power supply is only rated to supply 18A. I bet your 420W is rated even less.
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