K8N Neo2 Platinum, suddenly has problems

This is the first system listed in my signature. This PC has been working well since it was built a couple of years ago. Recently, it seemed that the graphics were a bit taxed (I do some desktop publishing), and the system was running slower than normal. So I figured it might be time for a new video card. Installed a X1650PRO 256M and no post, no display. Checked that everything was seated properly, verified all connections, and tried again, nothing. Put the old card back in, nothing. Kicked it a few times and put the new card in with my fingers crossed, and she booted up. This was about a week ago. The system has been acting funky ever since with incomplete startups, random freezes, no display on boot, running very slow, and one time, Bios didn't see the hard drive array on POST. My first thought was that the power supply was overtaxed with the new card, but I am also considering a hard drive problem. Looking for some input... thanks

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K8N Neo2 Platinum 54G BIOS problem

I recently bought a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum-54G mainboard with W7025NMS v1.3 092204 revision of BIOS.
AMD Athlon64 3000+ 939 is installed on the mainboard, with 2x512 GEIL PC3200 memory modules in dual channel configuration working on default frequency of 200MHz. CPU is recognized correctly as AMD Athlon64 3000+ on startup.
Mainboard’s BIOS seems to be corrupted. In Cell Menu options, in the upper left part of the screen (printed blue) are processor and DDR working timings:
Current CPU Clock 1810MHZ, Current DDR Clock 200MHz.
Aggressive Timings and Dynamic Overclocking values are [Disabled] (processor working on its defaulf settings); Spread Spectrum is [Disabled] while all DRAM Configuration settings are set to [Auto].
While entering HT frequency settings, (locked to [x5]) there are no other values to select – empty, and there is no way to leave it (ESC doesn’t help, the only thing possible to do is to reset the computer by pressing the Reset button on the chassis), but the HT frequency settings were enabled when I loaded Fail-Safe settings, offering [1x], [1.5x], [2x], [2.5x], [3x], [4x], [5x].
Adjust CPU Ratio settings offer only [StartUp], [x4]~[x9] values, but as I understood by reading the manual there should be [StartUp], [x4]~[x20].
CPU Voltage, Memory Voltage and AGP Voltage are set to default.
CPU-Z, as well as SiSoft Sandra 2004 and SiSoft Sandra 2005 and MSI CORE CELL show that processor works at a core speed ~1005MHz, showing multiplier locked on x5.0 and HTT locked at ~200MHz, while the voltage is ~1.05V!
I downloaded the latest BIOS revision (v1.4), did the BIOS flash, but the problem remains!
Anybody, help!

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HT frequency
is a known fault in bios & is easily sorted Bas HT Bios Error
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CPU Ratio settings
AMD64 CPOU's have a lock on CPU ratios which varies according to the specification of the chip. therefore the multiplier available in your bios stops at the max multiplier allowed by amd for your cpu.
As an example i'm running a 3200 754 which has a maximum muliplier of 11 so that is the max i see in bios.
this guide may help Bios Guide

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum RAM problem

My spec:
AMD64 3000+ Venice
1gb RAM Elixir
1 x Maxtor 120gb IDE
1 x Maxtor 200gb SATA
1 x Maxtor 200gb IDE
ATI Radeon x800 pro 256mb
I have a K8N Neo2 Platinum motherboard, the problem is that when I try to add in another 512mb stick the system won't even boot up. I have tried other brands and amounts but still to no avail.
I boot the system up and the monitor won't even switch on, but if I take out the 512 stick it works fine.
Any ideas?

Not quite.
Use the color codes .
If you have matched sticks in density (size) and timings (spd data) you can run dual channel.
This means having one stick in memory channel 1 ( green ) and another in memory channel2 (purple )
Theese are physically wired next to eachother on the motherboard , from cpu and upwards..
You can not do that , with that mismatched modules the cpu can't initialize it's memory controller .
So your only choice is to run two modules with single memory channel config .
Use the colorcodes to make sure you use signgle memory channel config (since you have mismatched sticks and the A64 memory controller cant run those in dual mode)
So your choice is to use either both green slots or both of the purple ones .
Place the one module with the higest cas rating (slowest) in the green slot with the lowest slot number (marked on the board) .
And the other stick on the green slot that remains .

RESOLVED - K8N Neo2 Platinum problem with large Seagate disk

Hi All,
I've been running this system for 4 years and I'm very happy with it. But I've run into a problem:
I'm trying to exchange my 120 GB Seagate Barracuda systemdisk with a 500 GB Barracuda and I can't install XP with SP2.
First I tried to clone the old HD with Norton Ghost and Acronis True Image. The cloning looked fine but after taking the old HD out and moving the new one to P-ATA 1 as Primary Master I get an "error - no operating system found". I also tried a fresh install from CD. After the CD reboots the system I get the same error.
The HD is present in BIOS with the right parameters and all is looking well - but still no go.
I've fiddled around in BIOS (vers. 1.3) with the different settings (LBA, Large, Auto, Csh.) The last 2 options gives the "no operating system" error and the first 2 gives a "disk error" although Seagate says that I should change settings to "LBA".
I only have the new HD in the machine. I also tried fixboot and fixmbr. I can see all the installed files when I put it in as a slave.
So my question is:
Does the K8N Neo2 Platinum have a problem with large hd's as system disk?
Or is this a Seagate or Windows problem ?
Any help is much appreciated!
Mads

Actually that was the first thing I did just to see if the drive worked :-) - except that I had it as master on the second ide cable. It formats like it should and all partitions report "healthy". The only difference is that the new drives c-partition is set as active (can't find a way to change it back) - while the old one is set as system. Could this make a difference ?
Since neither cloning nor a fresh install works I think the problem is something else. Maybe I should try Seatools and see if that makes any difference.
Thank's all for help so far! - Other suggestions ?

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum Fan

For some reason the small chipset fan on my MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum mobo has become a lot louder, I think it is running at higher RPMs that before. It starts up loud even if the computer is doing a cold boot from room temperature. Is there anyway to control this fan speed and quiet it down? and if I slow it down, will it hurt my motherboard? This fan is now louder than my graphics card fan, which makes it the loudest fan in my case even though it is the smallest.

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You could always replace it with a Zalman hedgehog.
I did.
Thanks for you reply, the only problem with the Zalman is that it's really big and I think my MSI NX6800GT's cooler would get in the way.

System suddenly won't power on (MSI K8N NEO2 PLATINUM NFORCE3)

System specs are
COOLERMASTER TAC-T01 WAVE MASTER ALUMINUM ATX 4X5.25 1X3.5 4X3.5INT case
MSI K8N NEO2 PLATINUM NFORCE3 ULTRA S939 AGP 5PCI SATA 1394 SOUND 1000LAN
KINGSTON HYPERX 1024MB DUAL CHANNEL KIT PC3500 2X512MB DDR 433MHZ 184PIN
ATI Radeon X800XT PE AGP
SEAGATE BARRACUDA 7200.7 200GB SATA 8MB 7200RPM 8.5MS OEM
CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY 2 ZS 7.1 1394 PCI RETAIL BOX
LITEON 16X DVD-ROM INT E-IDE RETAIl
MITSUMI FA404A 7-IN-1 FLOPPY DRIVE & FLASH READER CF/SM/SD/MMC/MS
LG 4163b dvd burner
Nothing has ever been overclocked on this system.
Everything is plugged into a Belkin Surgemaster powerbar.
I haven't mentioned the power supply. I'll get to that. I have been using an ANTEC NEOPOWER 480W POWER SUPPLY (ATX12V DUAL 12V RAILS ACTIVE PFC W/ DETACHABLE OUTPUT CABLES) for about a year on this system without
any issues. One morning, I wake up, hit the power button on my coolermaster case, and nothing happens.
CPU fan won't even spin. Nothing happens.
O.k., blown power supply, I think . . . .
So I take out my Antec and put it in another system. That system turns on
without any problems.
Hmm . . .
I come here, and I read posts about
potential compatibility issues with Antec power supplies. But if it's a compatibility
issue why was my system working for about a year?
O.k., fine. I'll buy a Enermax 535W EG565P-VE FMA 24P (115/230 VAC) power supply.
I just plug it into the mainboard (nothing else). Hit the power button . . .
The CPU fan spins for half a second, and then nothing.
Did my motherboard just suddenly die for no reason?
Any suggestions?

Pull the AC plug from PSU and set cmos in clear position with battery removed for atlest 20 minutes perhaps longer .
Then try to post the system barebone .
Just cpu,1 pcs memory in slot 1 , gfx card , and keyboard in PS2.
No usb devices at all including card reader and no pci cards harddisks or cdoms/dvd/floppy.
It could also be caused by a short or a malfunctioning fan connected to mobo.
Try to disconnect all case fans from mobo headers if you have any connected to additional fan holders.
The chipset fan can also be disconnected momentarily just to see if it posts.
If none of this helps , replace cmos battery and try again .

Serious K8N Neo2 Platinum Problem

Hello
This is my long and sad story with this MSI board...
As I mentioned above, I have a K8N Neo2 Platinum with a Athlon64 3500+ (130nm) and some Corsair TwinX 3200XL 2x512 MB. The recommended setting for this Ram is 2-2-2-5-T1, but with this setting, my system crashes in prime 95 after maybe 5 mins and under compiling a Gentoo-System. But on the other hand, Memtest 86 reports no error at all with this timing. Later I changed the Timing to 2-2-2-5-T2 and suddenly, everyting becames stable. I could compile two Gentoo systems (32 & 64 Bit) and ran prime 95 for more than 24 hours. I have nothing overclocked. I think the Board is the Problem here, because there are some other malfunctions. Sometimes it doesen't detect my IDE Devices at startup (DVD-Rom and CD-rw) or my ethernet card gets no connection, but everything is configured well. So I really dont know what to do. I feed my Memory with 2.75 Volt. I also flashed the mainboard to Bios-Version 1.3 but nothing changed...
I hope anyone of you can give me a hint or something...
Thanks a lot

corsair ultra-low latency requires 2.75V according to their documentation. Also I have heard that prime95 has an issue with systems with 1024mb or ram in a certain test. Not sure I can't confirm but I do remember reading that somewhere yesterday.

Reboot problem with MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum and 250 GB SATA HDD

I'm having a "reboot" problem with my MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum. After turning my system on it will run without any problems, until I reboot. After a reboot it will always hang after the initial windows-bootscreen. The HDD-light will remain on. If, instead of going into Windows XP SP2, I try to enter the BIOS after a reboot (DEL) the system will also hang (blank screen with blinking cursor).
It started doing this after I installed the Maxtor 250 GB SATA disk. Before, I didn't have problems rebooting. If I disconnect the Maxtor drive I can reboot and enter BIOS and Windows each and every time. Reconnecting the Maxtor 250 GB SATA drive will return the reboot problem. I always have to use the power swith to get a working system again. It's not enough to do a hard reset (this has the same effect as rebooting).
Here are the details of my system:
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum (BIOS 1.B)
Athlon 64 3200+ (Winchester, 2 Ghz, 512 KB cache, stepping DH-D0)
2 x Kingston KVR400X64C25/512, 512 MB, DDR, PC3200 (2,5-3-3-8 T1)
Asus Radeon AX800 Pro (256 MB)
PSU Antec Sonata 380W
HDD Maxtor 80Gb ATA (6Y080P0, Pri Master)
HDD Seagate 250Gb SATA (ST3200822AS)
HDD Maxtor 250Gb SATA (6V250F0 - jumpered in SATA150 mode, the mobo wouldn't work with the drive in SATA300-mode)
Aopen COM5232/AAH Pro CD-Writer ATA (Sec Master)
BenQ DW1640 DVD-Writer ATA (Sec Slave)
P.S. The NVidia IDE-drivers are NOT installed. System is not overclocked.

Thank you for all the replies. Upgrading to the latest Nvidia IDE-drivers did not fix my problem. Moving to other SATA-ports did not help either. Upgrading the mobo's BIOS is not really an option (I'm using one version before the most recent and there isn't anything in the fixlist of the latest BIOS).
Now I've contacted Maxtor for (hopefully) a new firmware.
Quote from: rogueUK on 31-July-06, 16:55:42
insego please use the SEARCH BUTTON
I did use the search function to find other people with similar problems. The reason I started a topic of my own was because of the text you get while joining:
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Do not hijack another persons topic. If you have a similar problem, start your own thread anyway.
Maybe in retrospect I should first have tried the solutions in other topics.

K8n neo2 platinum problems

ok guys I've been looking all over the internet and cannot find any answers to my problem.
I have an MSI K8N neo2 platinum running easybios
AMD Opteron 146
2gb Ballistixs pc4000
30gb maxtor
120gb maxtor
2x dvd rw drives
nvidia 6800 agp
sound blaster live 24bit
I run windows x64 and after flashing my bios form 1.6 (I think) to 1b I kept getting errors e.g. "ROM cannot invoke" (or something), and primarily "disk read error", now the disks show up in the bios, they show up in a windows install but it just won't boot from them. I have flashed to easybios and the rom error went away but the disk read one was still there. I am now reinstaling windows x64 but would like to know how to fix such a problem if it were to happen again. Both my drives are IDE and are on the IDE0 cable with master and slave correctly set.
Also the temperature readings for my processor are 42 degrees celcius when everything is at stock and I have a zalman 9500 heatsink fan on it running at full speed. This is obviously wrong - is there any way to fix this?
Thanks
Daven

I has the exact issue with my board, except it was with the SATA drives. I flashed with e few BIOS', and the newest one that worked correctly was 1.8
If it was me, I would reflash to BIOS 1.8
Post back with your results.
Also, even though you are installing Windows again, it will most likely corrupt your installation, as it did mine, twice, before I figured out the problem.

News - BIG PROBLEM - MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum - DOES NOT POWER!!!

Hi to everyone.
I'm a proudly owner of a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum that in one year gave me no problem until yesterday morning.
I used the computer in the night before and when I finished I turned it off and I went to bed.
Yesterday morning I found the power led blinking (like if the system was in standby), and there was no way to turn the PC on.
I even took off the battery for more than 12 hours and I left only minimal components installed:
the video card (Gainward GeForce 6800),
the psu (Antec TruePower 550W),
1 x 512 MB Ram Crucial Ballistix,
and I checked them into another computer and they work perfectly.
I tried shorting the MB power switch pins with a screwdriver and I've even tried to power on the system without the Memory or the Video Card... I've tried everything that came across my mind with no efforts!!!!
Every time I give power to the MB appens only that the power led starts blinking, but pressing the button the PC doesn't turn on.
PLEASE HELP ME... I really don't know what else to do!!!
Thanks,
Alberto

Quote from: alberto_melita on 20-August-05, 20:14:56
Hi thanks for the answers.
I do have a D-Bracket, but my problem is not that the system does not boot or does not post... my system DOES NOT POWER ON (!!!!), so d-bracket is useless!
When I plug the system power the only thing that happens is that the power led starts blinking (with the system still in soft-off), and if I press the power switch button nothing happens!
I've the bios for 7025 v1.8 and the settings where for OFF on power-loss ond pressing the button (can't rememeber if it was more than 4 sec) was meant to turn off the computer, but considering that I un-powered the pc more than once without the MB battery the settings should be factory default by now.
I went through the Windows-XP shut-down system, and i could not be an electrical problem as I always used the PC with a pretty good UPS unit.
Right now these are the full specs of my sytem:
- MB MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum nForce3 Ultra
- GAINWARD 6800 2600 GLH 256 MB Ram
- PSU Antec TruPower 550 W
- CPU AMD64 3500+ core Winchester @11*210 Mhz (this cpu has never overclocked very well)
- HEATSINK Thermalright XP-90 with a 12 Cm Enermax Fan (CPU temp in always below 55 °C when stressed)
- 1 x 512 Mb RAM Crucial Ballistix DDR400 optimized for MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
I left only these things inside my computer in the hope that it would turn on... it did not work. I tested each component but the MB, and they work perfectly.
Again...
Thanks for you efforts, any help will be appreciated.
Alberto.
All parts have been tested: CPU/RAM/GFX/PSU/HD/DVD, just not the MOBO ?
Checked if the MOBO is shorting in the case ?
Have you tried using the reset switch as power, on/off switch ? I've seen before when the power switch stops working (lose/bad wire busted spring) after swapping reset to power, then the system turned on. Worth a try, as sending it back to USA won't be cheap. If its over 1 year old it mite not be covered by the re-seller and or MSI. Best to check this out as law and warranty is different from country to country.
Good Luck

MOVED: [Athlon64] Msi K8N Neo2 Platinum problems with Patriot Ram

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[Athlon64] Msi K8N Neo2 Platinum problems with Patriot Ram

First post, whoo hooo
So what version of BIOS are u running? I recently installed the two newest versions 2.0 and 2.1, and they both give me problems. With the latest (2.1) I'm getting the same error as you. Returning back to previous BIOS fixed my problems. Oh yeah, my RAM is Kingston Hyper-X, so i don't think thats your problem.
Let me know if you fix it, thats why im here, .

Cool and Quiet problem on K8N Neo2 Platinum v1.3 bios

Hello
I have a problem with the Cool and Quiet feature on the K8N Neo2 Platinum (v1.3 bios).
As soon and I boot the Core Center v1.7.0.0 will instantly overclock my A64 3500+ CPU to 3000+ Mhz. Of course this reboots my PC.
I have Cool and Quiet enabled in the bios, Automatic overclocking disabled in the bios and the Core Center softwares overclocking is (well it was) disabled? How can I install it or get it to stop overclocking the system.
I want to run the Core Center to enable the Cool and Quiet fan controlling stuff.
Thanks

Strange that Corecenter would overclock your cpu to 3ghz. It's known to be unreliable software, but not that unreliable.
Are you running a stock 3500+, or are you overclocking the HTT/FSB beyond 200?
Previous posted was right about cool and quiet software. You don't need corecenter to run it. Just stay away from corecenter and even uninstall it
Cool and quiet software (a device driver that you download from AMD, or that comes pre-installed with XP SP2) simply works as follows. It introduces the notion of several p-states (processor states) that it switches between based on its reading of cpu load. A p-state is a pairing of cpu voltage and cpu multiplier. On my 3200+ newcastle, the p-states are:
1.5V, 11x
1.4V, 10x
1.3V, 9x
1.1V, 5x
Your 3500+ might be similar. Anyway, just run cpu-z instead of corecenter to watch your cpu speed changing on the fly.
As far as fan speeds go: the cool and quiet driver doesn't affect fan speeds. That means to get the "quiet" part of "cool and quiet" you need either
(a) a fan that has a temperature sensor and which automatically changes its speed based on that, or
(b) just use the motherboard BIOS setting to do the same via bios software.
(c) use speedfan to do the same via windows software.
I myself prefer (b) but it depends on the bios accurately reporting temperature, which can vary wildly between bios releases (e.g. newcastles didn't start getting accurate temp reports until bios 1.4).

Has the K8N Neo2 Platinum bios poroblem been fixed?

I work at CanadaComputers, and well we've been having this problem w/ people purchasing the K8N Neo2 Platinum, and a 3000+ winchester, mainly because that it wont post becuase the CPU is 90NM, where as the bios that is shipped w/ the board only supports 130NM.
I was just wondering if that was fixed or something because people that still buy the board from us, have this problem. Are we getting just the older versions of the board (the june build i think?) or has the problem just not been looked into?
Luis

Interesting that you work there. I bought an MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum and AMD64 3000+ . How are people finding the Asus A8V DX and Epox 9nda3+? Any problems? I may sell my MSI and grab one of those, and actually could easily get it from CC. I don't care if I lose on total speed etc. I want stability and less problems. I haven't even put my PC together and gotten it up and running and the list of potential problems is daunting. That and the fact that I happen to have a Matrox G400 video card which won't even allow me to start my PC! Arrghh. Either that or grab a Sapphire 9600XT even though I hardly play games.

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K8N Neo2 Platinum overclocking problem

Quote from: Sharp on 24-April-05, 06:04:48
Hello,
In the BIOS you must set the FSB:DRAM ratio to 1:1.
Set the HTT (hypertransport Ratio to x4)
Set the CPU ratio to x4 (just too see if it will work.)
Set the FSB to 250Mhz
Set the Vcore to 1.45v.
Set the memory timings to SPD (or default values for DDR500)
Set the memory voltage to 2.7v, 2.75v or 2.8v.
Save and exit
Then let it boot from the memtest bootdisk.
Use memtest to see if it is ok, test for a long time, over 1 hour.
http://www.memtest.org/download/1.55.1/memtest86+-1.55.1.floppy.zip
Tight timings and high FSB is even better
I have the same problem I can go as high as fsb 219 without tweaking anything but the FSB. My system is about the same only my ram is ddr 400 so what should my mem volt and timg should be set to?

Problem on boot MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum

I am an italian lover of MSI motherboards.
After I bought a MSI KT3 Ultra Aru, then MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR and now I have a K8N Neo2 Platinum.
My hardware are:
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
Athlon 64 3200 Winchester
Corsair XMS 1024 TWINX 3200 PLL
Maxtor Diamond Plus 9 80 Gb
Asus Radeon 9600XT.
The problem is that at the power on the bios don't start. The LED on D-Bracket are three green and one red. On the manual this error are written:
Inizializing Video Interface
This will start detecting CPU clock, checking type of video onboard. Then, detect and initialize the video adapter.
This problem is frequent for my motherboard. However not always.
I attend your answer for this problem.
Thank you for all and for my english school.

Hi Italiano,
Welcome to the forum.
Have you details of your power supply. please show Maximum 3.3v,5v & 12v.
These are usually on the side of the power unit.
try:-
1) Enter bios Cell Menu - HT change from 5 ---> 4 using +/- keys. Save & exit.
If it still doesn't boot try:-
2) Re-inserting your Asus Radeon 9600XT. Sometimes they don't go in correctly.
3) See if you can boot with just 1 memory module in slot 1.
Luck

K8N Neo2 Platinum, suddenly has problems

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