K8N Neo2 Platinum System Freeze

Here's my issue: A complete system freeze that happens after ten minutes or 2 hours (or anywhere in between). There is no pattern (except that it seems more likely to happen under more intensive apps).
My motherboard and processor have both been RMAd once. The AMD rep confirmed that my processor appeared to be unstable under high stress (uhh, never heard of this before). He said that it was a very unusual problem, and they promptly sent me a new one. I tried the new processor with the same mobo and had the same problem. I then RMAd the mobo. The MSI reps sent me a new motherboard but never said exactly what was wrong with my old one. Now, I'm still having problems (I just put the computer together this evening).
I've heard the same stuff in other threads about memory timings and 12V rail issues. I guess I could try to RMA my four sticks of RAM and power supply, but I somehow doubt that will fix things.
Note also that I have built a system almost identical to mine for my brother, and he has no system freezes. The differences are that he has only two sticks of the Crucial RAM, is using AUTO voltage, has 1T/2T set to AUTO (always loads as 2T), and has a PC Power and Cooling power supply. Aside from that, the systems are identical. I have tried his RAM settings and still experience freezing.
I've been running now for almost 20 minutes with a record of almost 1 continuous hour tonight.
I've never had a freeze like this before - no errors, nothing in the event logs, video stays on screen, fans are running, but everything else stops cold. Very strange.
I am really beginning to regret using this platform. I heard all the hype and decided to go for the AMD/MSI combo eventhough I've always used INTEL/ASUS or INTEL/SUPERMICRO before. I guarantee you that I wouldn't be having these issues with either of those combos. I really need to have a stable system for my primary workstation. I guess my mood can be best described as upset with a little confused and angry thrown in.
Any help is appreciated.

I completely removed my PSU from my system (disconnected everything) and benched it as per Antec's explicit directions. Here's what I found:
3.3 Volt Rail (32A): I have 3.36V
5 Volt Rail (40A): I have 5.11V
12 Volt Rail (30A): I have 12.01V
These findings, of course, have not ruled out the power supply being at fault, and I still intend to send off my additional RAM to my brother for testing tomorrow.
The reason why I haven't sent it off yet is that I was kind enough to play along with MSI tech support and try BIOS 1.36 (1.3B6) which is date-stamped earlier than my 1.3 final release. The 1.36 version did nothing for my stability problems, and I am going to attempt 1.37 tonight (I understand that that is supposed to be a more recent version).
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Originally posted by Paul Foster
We are merely trying to help you yet you won't even try what we suggest to resolve your problem.
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Originally posted by Paul Foster
Furthermore, I really don't care if it's the mobo that is at fault or not.
Quotations are sometimes more revealing when they placed are back-to-back
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Originally posted by GrumpySmurf
assume that EVERY COMPONENT is bad and that it was assembled incorrectly
...such as memtest...
Grumpy, I've RMA'd both my motherboard and processor. I've tried memtest (it ran perfectly), and I've rebuilt this system at least three times in the course of all of this mess. Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully we'll get to the bottom of this nasty little bug soon!
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Originally posted by Paul Foster
In case you haven't figured it out by now we have absolutely no say one way or the other whether or not you can convince your vendor to RMA the board.
Been there, done that. I RMA'd it a couple weeks ago. The trouble is, the board has the same problems.
I would really like to thank Novablade for his support in this. It's good to have a little sympathy from somebody who has the same board and the same problem.

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I had the same ram and both my co and cg HATED it. I ended up replacing it with 2x512 pc4k crucial ballistix. My A64's love my ballistix. 245 1T 2.5/2/2/6 2.8v or 265 2T 3,3,3,8 2.8v.
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http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushkin.storefront/4156cad701e46ffc2741c0a801020673/UserTemplate/27
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Athlon64 3000+ and Higher
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MSI K8N Neo Platinum | system freezes!

Hi,
I recently bougt a MSI K8N Neo Platinum and an A64 3200+ Clawhammer Boxed. I was looking forward to low temperatures and a stabile motherboard, but I haven´t been that blessed yet. During random cpu loads, I get system hang-ups. Wether it´s running iTunes, CS, Sisoft Sandra, FarCry or nothing at all, the system sometimes stops responding.
I´ve updated to 1.2 BIOS, and I´ve downloaded the unofficial 1.33 BIOS from this forum , haven´t tried it yet, though.
MSI Corecenter tells med that the CPU temp gets above 55 degrees under full load. Atually, I had up to 70 degrees until I installed a third case fan. But the sys temp reports from 45 to 50 degrees. And I guess this is the little "MSI"-marked heatsink´s fault. It gets burning hot.
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Hoping for tips and possible solutions.
Btw, sorry for my norwegian-english

Hi,
I recently bougt a MSI K8N Neo Platinum and an A64 3200+ Clawhammer Boxed. I was looking forward to low temperatures and a stabile motherboard, but I haven´t been that blessed yet. During random cpu loads, I get system hang-ups. Wether it´s running iTunes, CS, Sisoft Sandra, FarCry or nothing at all, the system sometimes stops responding.
I´ve updated to 1.2 BIOS, and I´ve downloaded the unofficial 1.33 BIOS from this forum , haven´t tried it yet, though.
MSI Corecenter tells med that the CPU temp gets above 55 degrees under full load. Atually, I had up to 70 degrees until I installed a third case fan. But the sys temp reports from 45 to 50 degrees. And I guess this is the little "MSI"-marked heatsink´s fault. It gets burning hot.
Could the system temp be the cause of my hang-ups?
Hoping for tips and possible solutions.
Btw, sorry for my norwegian-english

K8N Neo2 Platinum CD freeze at bootup

I know that this problem has been mentioned here before, but I can't seem to find it through the search function. Using the bios that came with my board I was able to install Windows fine, I updated to 1.3 & 1.36b and everytime it tries to boot to windows it freezes with boot from cd.....
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On the basis ure cd was ok b4 bios update (U insatlled windows ok)
It may be in the way your bios was updated & the DMI pool may be corrupt
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ON UPdateing The BIOS (Edit: Doh Aim was wrong 2 posts above!!)
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From Syar2003 in same thread After restert:
Enter bios and load optimized default , and save .Important .Leave the floppy in.
(enter bios and load optimized + save,exit if you get F1-continue at first boot)
Boot once again after this without any changes/editing in bios to floppy prompt and let the dmi pool build and update itself
suggest you go into bios load optimized defaults & follow above, to see if this updates your DMI.
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K8N Neo2 Platinum: system in safe mode?!

This has happened twice, both when I rebooted the computer by pushing the reset button.
A message saying "The system is in safe mode, turn off the overclocking feature in BIOS" came up - except that I didn't put the system in overclocking mode in the first place.
A related problem is my memory are DDR400, but the BIOS reports it as DDR333...
Is my mobo defective?

Have you manually set your memory timings it's quit important that you do especially as some corsair maodules need to be run @2.5 on AMD64s.
I'd advise you check the recommended timings on corsair's site
update bios with your manual settings including memory voltage.
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New K8N Neo2 Platinum, AMD 64 3500+ sytem freezing

I have posted to a couple of forums and still can't get this problem resolved, hope you guys can help.
I put together a new system last Friday night and spent all weekend trying to fix it. I ended up with 2 bad power supplies, one fresh from the store was dead, but got that resolved. Got the system up and running, got online, surfing and FREEZE..everything stopped. Rebooted, 5 minutes later, same thing, over and over again.
Tried checking memory, it's fine, both sticks, power supply is fine, everything seems to be running fine except it keeps freezing after about 5 minutes.
I wonder if it's a bad board, so I tried to RMA it with the vendor and they want me to try outside the case to see if it won't freeze there, haven't had the time yet cause I'm working, will try that tonight.
Also, one guy on a different board suggested that I try a fresh install of windows xp as the old drivers might be interfering with the new drivers. I will try that tonight also.
If anyone can give me any other suggestions, I would appreciate it. If I can't get this resolved, I'm going to send back the board for a new one.
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AMD 64 3500+
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum mobo
2 x 512 Kingston ddr400 (pc3200)
antec true power 480
wd 120gb hd, wd 80gb hd
cdrw generic, dvdrw generic
bfg 6800 oc video card
thanks

Thank you both for your posts, they are both informative and I will be using your information Friday night. I'm just so tired after work, I don't want to get part way into it and have to leave it for the next day, I have to get up at 3am everyday and get home around 6-7pm and I'm beat!
So, Friday after work, I'm going to start with just the basics and go from there, using all the information I've been getting from this board and a couple of others. Seems like the best thing to do is, start with barebones, reset cmos, reset battery and install fresh windows os.
I will post Friday after I start and hopfully I will get this problem fixed.
thanks again

System suddenly won't power on (MSI K8N NEO2 PLATINUM NFORCE3)

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COOLERMASTER TAC-T01 WAVE MASTER ALUMINUM ATX 4X5.25 1X3.5 4X3.5INT case
MSI K8N NEO2 PLATINUM NFORCE3 ULTRA S939 AGP 5PCI SATA 1394 SOUND 1000LAN
KINGSTON HYPERX 1024MB DUAL CHANNEL KIT PC3500 2X512MB DDR 433MHZ 184PIN
ATI Radeon X800XT PE AGP
SEAGATE BARRACUDA 7200.7 200GB SATA 8MB 7200RPM 8.5MS OEM
CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY 2 ZS 7.1 1394 PCI RETAIL BOX
LITEON 16X DVD-ROM INT E-IDE RETAIl
MITSUMI FA404A 7-IN-1 FLOPPY DRIVE & FLASH READER CF/SM/SD/MMC/MS
LG 4163b dvd burner
Nothing has ever been overclocked on this system.
Everything is plugged into a Belkin Surgemaster powerbar.
I haven't mentioned the power supply. I'll get to that. I have been using an ANTEC NEOPOWER 480W POWER SUPPLY (ATX12V DUAL 12V RAILS ACTIVE PFC W/ DETACHABLE OUTPUT CABLES) for about a year on this system without
any issues. One morning, I wake up, hit the power button on my coolermaster case, and nothing happens.
CPU fan won't even spin. Nothing happens.
O.k., blown power supply, I think . . . .
So I take out my Antec and put it in another system. That system turns on
without any problems.
Hmm . . .
I come here, and I read posts about
potential compatibility issues with Antec power supplies. But if it's a compatibility
issue why was my system working for about a year?
O.k., fine. I'll buy a Enermax 535W EG565P-VE FMA 24P (115/230 VAC) power supply.
I just plug it into the mainboard (nothing else). Hit the power button . . .
The CPU fan spins for half a second, and then nothing.
Did my motherboard just suddenly die for no reason?
Any suggestions?

Pull the AC plug from PSU and set cmos in clear position with battery removed for atlest 20 minutes perhaps longer .
Then try to post the system barebone .
Just cpu,1 pcs memory in slot 1 , gfx card , and keyboard in PS2.
No usb devices at all including card reader and no pci cards harddisks or cdoms/dvd/floppy.
It could also be caused by a short or a malfunctioning fan connected to mobo.
Try to disconnect all case fans from mobo headers if you have any connected to additional fan holders.
The chipset fan can also be disconnected momentarily just to see if it posts.
If none of this helps , replace cmos battery and try again .

K8N Neo2 Platinum 2 DIMMs won't post

I have two 512 MB Crucial DIMMs (DDR PC3200, CL=3, UNBUFFERED, NON-ECC, DDR400, 2.6V, 64Meg x 64, Part #CT6464Z40B). If I have either one installed, the system will POST. If I have both installed (I've tried them in both recommended combinations, in DIMM1 and 2 and in DIMM3 and 4), the system won't POST. The D-Bracket displays the Memory Detection Test signal. Since each stick works alone, I don't think either one is faulty. Can anyone explain why this is happening, and how to fix it?
Specs:
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
AMD 3500+ 939
eVGA e-GeForce6800 128MB DDR AGP 8x
Antec 380S PSU, 380W.

im having the same problem. same ram, same motherboard. except when i put the ram in slots 1 and 3 the computer will start up, but it will freeze in windows everytime. what should i do? i want to use all of my ram now only one stick!!!!!!!!!
and i have updated bios to 1.4 and it still doesnt work

Any1 use agp 8x on k8n neo2 platinum?

Any1 use agp 8x on k8n neo2 platinum? It 8x stable on neo2 platinum?

I am running at AGP 8x, and HTT of 4x with my system. No problems whatsoever.
A sig, with your system specs would probably help us along in diagnosing your problems.
A few red flags that usually cause game crashes:
1) Insufficient power (number one problem with most computers, with a64's the general consensus is 12v>24a)
2) Bad Ram (try memtest86)
3) Outdated, corrupt, or conflicting Drivers
4) Outdated, or corrupt Directx
5) Poorly written game code
I would check these first. My guess would be marginal, to insufficient power. I had a True 430 by antec in my system (12v=20a) and I would get random drops to the desktop, and system freezes, when playing games, upon upgrading to my curreent PSU, no problens at all.

FSB Frequency Problems on K8N Neo2 Platinum

I am using the K8N Neo2 Platinum with Newcastle 3500 and 2x512 Kingmax Hardcore ram, and I stumbled across a problem.
Whenever I try to set the frequency above 225 Mhz, something freezes during boot-up.. I tryed setting the HT at 4x, CPU mul. at x9 and FSB at 250Mhz, but I cant boot, I get a message... something like Disk Read Error, press Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart. My HDD is SATA Maxtor 120GB. This is really driving me crazy, plz help.

My K8N Neo2 never liked Kingmax hardcore RAM - they gave all sorts of instability, errors and boot up problems.
They also gave errors in memtest86, even though they work fine with no errors in a P4 system later on.
I had to replace them and after that things worked fine.
You also may have to repair your windowsinstallation and try some other RAM.
Does not hurt giving RAM some extra voltage as well.
When your system is stable - you might want to update bios for best hardware support.
Syar´s EasyBios 7025CU2.1C3 is a good version and it sets 2.75v at default which would be enough for most RAM to boot fine and run stable.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=59711.0

K8N NEO2 Platinum rebooting

Hi all,just got myself a 64bit MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum board & a 3200+,am happy with it but a couple of days ago i got a blue screen with a long message that i didnt have time to read before the pc rebooted,after the reboot i checked the event viewer log file in administrative tools/control panel but couldnt narrow it down as my particular error code wasnt among the possible causes.
Among some of the possible causes were incorrectly installed USB drivers or the BIOS,i downloaded the latest BIOS update before this problem started(V1.40) which i am using now,i used the MSI live update software to flash it which i did in windows mode.Sorry for prattling on!well it did it again tonight and i managed to read a bit of the writing on the blue screen which mentioned flashing the bios to the latest version.I was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem and if so could you please advise me? Thanks for your patience and any help Heres my sys specs:
Model: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
Speed: 2.01GHz
Model Number: 3200 (estimated)
Performance Rating: PR3015 (estimated)
Type: Standard
L2 On-board Cache: 512kB ECC Synchronous Write-Back (16-way, 64
byte line size)
Bus(es): ISA AGP PCI USB FireWire/1394
MP Support: 1 CPU(s)
MP APIC: No
System BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG
Mainboard: MS-7025
Total Memory: 1023MB DDR-SDRAM
Model: Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) ???
(00E1)
Front Side Bus Speed: 1x 201MHz (201MHz data rate)
Model: Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 /
Opteron HyperTransport Technology
Configuration
Front Side Bus Speed: 1x 201MHz (201MHz data rate)
Total Memory: 2048MB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed: 2x 201MHz (402MHz data rate)
Monitor/Panel: CTX EX950F series
Adapter: RADEON X800 Series
Adapter: RADEON X800 Series Secondary
Removable Drive: Floppy disk drive
Hard Disk: Maxtor 6Y080L0
CD-ROM/DVD: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4081B (CD 32X Rd, 24X Wr)
(DVD 4X Rd, 3X Wr)
CD-ROM/DVD: MSI CD-RW CR52 (CD 40X Rd, 52X Wr)
CD-ROM/DVD: AXV CD/DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd)
(DVD 4X Rd)
1.44MB 3.5" (A:): N/A
Hard drive (C:): 76.3GB (51.9GB, 68% Free) (NTFS)
CD-ROM/DVD (D:): N/A
CD-ROM/DVD (E:): N/A
CD-ROM/DVD (F:): N/A
Serial/Parallel Port(s): 1 COM / 1 LPT
USB Controller/Hub: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub: USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub: USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub: USB Root Hub
FireWire/1394 Controller/Hub: VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Keyboard: Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/
2 Keyboard
Mouse: PS/2 Compatible Mouse
Device: Creative SB Live! series
Device: Creative Game Port
Model: EPSON Stylus CX3200
Windows System: Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Home (Win32 x86)
5.01.2600 (Service Pack 2)
Network Drivers Enabled: Yes
Warning 100: Large memory sizes should be made of
Registered/Buffered memory.
Tip 101: Large memory sizes should be made of ECC/
Parity memory.
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Device Type: VGA Video Adapter
Device ID: bus 1, device 0, function 0
Windows Device Name: RADEON X800 Series
OEM Device Name: ATI Technologies ??? (4A49)
OEM Hardware ID: FUN_0, VEN_1002, DEV_4A49, REV_00
Device Name: PC Partner Ltd ??? (4A49)
Product ID: VEN_174B, DEV_0D42
Revision: A / 1 (0)
Version: 3.00
Command Queue Length: 256
Fast-Writes Support: Yes
Over 4GB Addressing Support: No
Isochronous Mode Support: No
Addressing Support: 32-bit
Data Transfer Modes Support: 4x 8x

My K8N Neo Platinum [754] did not include a NB fan. But this usually means the overall size of the heatsink is larger. If you remove the fan from yours, the size of the heatsink will not be big enough to cool your NB. As for temps, I've never seen my NB get hotter than 45'C. Note that the core on my NB should be slightly different than yours.
You could try to use the BIOS fan control for the NB. If set correctly, it should reduce some noise.

Need help with k8n neo2 platinum

I've just installed a new k8n neo2 platinum s939 board with a venice core 3200+ cpu the htt is 2000 and multiplier 10x.
I've gone to the core cell menu and set the htt to 4x (seemed to be this at default) and the max mem clock at 166 (more about this in a moment), the fsb will go quite easily up to 250mhz even 255mhz, but when I try 260 Mhz the machine when it reboots shows the initial slash screen but then goes to a blank screen with the cursor flashing in the top left hand corner, I can't even get back into the bios setup without clearing the cmos.
The odd thing is that the adjust cpu vid is showing a voltage of 1.50 and not 1.40 or startup.
Anyway with the fsb at 250mhz the bios screen is showing the Current ddr clock at 208 mhz ( not the max memclock setting of 166) the memory in the motherboard ( a crucial 512meg ddr333 single stick) seems to perform OK according to memtest which shows no errors after 2 cycles.
Any attempt to get to 260mhz fsb appears to fail even by upping the cpu vid to 1.525v unless i adjust the cpu voltage setting which by default is set to (by cpu vid) to +3.3%. Doing this enables me to get to fsb 260mhz but the memtest fails ( even when I set the max memclock to 133, which shows my current ddr speed at 174mhz, well below the 208mhz which appeared stable with the fsb at 250mhz?)
So firstly why are there two cpu voltage settings in the bios when my manual only shows 1 (there is no mention of this cpu vid setting?
How is it that my memory is stable at 208mhz with a fsb of 255mhz but unstable at 174mhz with the fsb set at 260mhz?
Why does the memory clock lock not appear to be working, the memory should be fixed at 166mhz but infact increases with fsb?
I have bios revision 1.5.
Please help as I am not familiar with the bios settings for this nforce 3 chipset, they seem rather odd to me. I'm sure my venice core 3200+ cpu can get beyond 250mhz fsb, I have another pc with a venice core 3000+ cpu which runs quite happily at 270mhz fsb.
PS I've tried reducing the htt to 3x but the same thing happens.

OK further feed back, I can get to over 260mhz fsb but the system is not stable the memory runs OK with mem test but I have problems with prime95.
I had to up the cpu core voltage to 1.53v to get to 260mhz using the cpu voltage setting in the bios and setting a 5% increase. increasing the cpu vid setting to 1.55v did not seem to do anything at all the core voltage was still at 1.43v.
I upped the mem voltage to 2.6v from 2.5 but still could not get the system to be stable, it may be that the memory is holding the system back but I don't want to pay for better memory at the moment. Unless anyone has got any other ideas it looks like I may be forced to settle with 250mhz, well still a 500mhz increase maybe not that bad. I've now to try 3d benchmarking using my radeon 9600xt and 3dmark 03.

K8N Neo2 Platinum Ordered - Advice for a noob please

Hi there,
this seems like a great forum, was hoping someone could give me some advice - Im trying to pre-empt any major probs....
I am a relative noob to building P.C's - done a few P4 based systems before but this will be my first Athlon based. This systems primary use will be gaming. I have the following on order (should be with me next week) : -
a) MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum Edition SCK 939 Motherboad
b) AMD ATHLON 64 3500+ 64bit SCK 939 Retail Inc Fan
c) 160GB Maxtor Calypso 8mb Cache 7200 SATA DHH
Components I have already
a) Graphics Card - Nvidia 6800 GT
b) Memory - Generic 2 X 512MB PC2700 DDR333 RAM
c) Sound Card - Creative SB Live Value
d) PSU - Jeantech 450W (22a on 12V Rail)
e) Case - pretty generic full tower case - no fans attached
f) CPU FAN - COOLERMASTER HYPER 48 SUPER SILENT HEATPIPE
g) Spare Hard drive - 120GB Maxtor IDE Hard drive
h) DVD Drives - 1 x Pioneeer 108 / 1 x Pioneer 104
I) Monitors - Ilyama 17" TFT & Toshiba 32WL36P LCD
I have some 'noobish' questions - apologies for my ignorance : -
1) Memory - Will my memory be okay ? Should I ditch it and buy some Corsair DDR400 (which everyone else seems to have!). Will performance suffer if I stick with the DDR 333 ? Do I need to adjust settings in BIOS regarding memory timing ? (I only picked up on this from reading through other posts on this board, and am totally clueless on 'timing'- Ive never needed to adjust timing on any previous PC's....!)
2) Sound Card - will I be better off sticking with the onboard sound on the MSI K8N neo 2 ? Or for best performance do I go with the SB LIve ? (god its a nightmare trying to get updated drivers for this card), Would I get a noticable performance increase buying an Audigy 2?
3) Vcore / other power issues - Reading this forum Im kinda scared by many posts along the lines of "..for stability I need to change my memory voltage to xx-V" or "...for a stable system I needed to change my Vcore to xx-V". Will I need to change the Bios default values on this system just to get it to run stably??
4) CPU FAN - Are AMD stock fans any good ? My Hyper 48 is quite highly rated....
5) Im completely new to SATA drives, but Ive printed off the very useful install guide on this site (which I intend to use). Is there anything I need to look out for concerning adding my IDE drive also.
I think thats about it just now - if anyone can see any other potential problems with my specs then please let me know. Im really not trying to be negative / pessimistic - after all the reason I have went for this motherboard is that it is rated as one of the best. Im just a bit paranoid that the dreaded B.S.O.D awaits me!
On a more positive note - does anyone have similar system specs they use for gaming ? How well does HL2 / Doom3 / Farcry etc fly J ? I cant wait !
Thanks for the time

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SATA HDD installation on K8N Neo2 Platinum, Non-RAID, Non-Bootable

Hi-
I’m a rank newbie on this forum (first post). I have a K8N Neo2 Platinum Mobo, which I’ve recently gotten up and running, with Windows XP-Pro SP2 installed on a single IDE drive. I would now like to add 2 SATA drives. I don’t need or want the SATA drives to operate in a RAID array, nor do I want them to be bootable. I want to use them independently for data storage. I read the following thread (I am posting here on a separate thread per the author’s wishes not to get his original thread too junked-up) :
Single SATA or Multiple Drive Array Setup FAQ
I have not yet plugged-in either of my SATA drives, because I don’t want to risk corrupting my existing boot (IDE) drive. I just had a few questions about the procedure given in the referenced thread, in the Single Drive Setup:
- Step 14 States: “Make sure the “RAID Mode” is Stripping and Striping Block at 64k or Optimal. Hit F7 (Finish)”. Is this correct for a single non-boot drive?
- Step 22 States: “As most of you know when you enter the Setup for Win2k/WinXP you will need to hit F6 to load additional drivers for other SCSI devices.” I assume this means I need to boot from the Windows CD. Is this true even if I already have Windows installed on an IDE HDD on this system? At what point will I need to hit <F6> ? Will I be prompted to do so?
- I have downloaded (from the MSI website) the NVIDIA RAID CLASS DRIVER & NVIDIA Nforce Storage Controller (20 files, 1.3 MB total). Should I put these on a floppy? Or can I access them from a directory on my OS HDD?
- Should I go ahead and plug-in both of the 2 SATA drives I want to add to the system before beginning the driver installation? The only reason I would consider installing them one at a time is if it eliminated any confusion between RAID vs. independent (I want independent operation). If I do install them one at a time, do I have to install the driver twice?
Any help would be appreciated.
- the bbdude

OK Thanks JeanGuy and ssjkakaroto,
I have connected both of my SATA drives. They are enabled in BIOS but not set to RAID. I booted up to Windows on my IDE drive. In Disk Manager, the display shows Disk 0 (C: System), Disk 1 and Disk 2 as uninitialized, and my DVD (D:) drive. At this point, I could probably go ahead and run the Initialize and Convert Disk Wizard to get these disks formatted and be dome with ot now. Before I do that though, I just have a couple of more questions.
- I had already loaded the nVidia nForce3 system driver prior to installing the SATA drives, but I went ahead and did that again after installing the SATA drives and restarting Windows. I used Live Update, which went out to the MSI site and found version 5.03 of the nVidia nForce3 system driver. I'm not sure how to find the "Nvidia 5.10 driver package which include the latest SATA driver", ssjkakaroto referred-to. The Live Update install procedure did ask if I wanted to install IDE driver and I said yes. It then asked to over-write what I already had there (I said yes to that too). As the file names streamed-by, I though I saw some filenames with nv... listed. So, bottom line, is I'm not sure if I have the lates and greatest nVidia SATA drivers installed. How can I find out what drivers are installed?
- As I mentioned in my previous post, I have also downloaded and unzipped the NVIDIA RAID CLASS DRIVER & NVIDIA Nforce Storage Controller (20 files, 1.3 MB total) from the MSI site; however, I don't know how to "install" this now that I have the files. There are a couple of .exe and a .bat file (bit no setup.exe).
I may already have everything I need to partition and format these drives. I just want to bve sure I'm not skipping a step that is essential to optimal performance.
Thanks -
- bbdude

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum slows down

Hi,
I have a little problem with my new K8N Neo2 Platinum. I installed Windows XP and the newest nForce drivers but if I copy files over LAN (tested both LAN-Ports) or install big applications my music played with winamp slows down. It's played with half speed. In addition to that my mouse pointer is very slow. After the setup or copying files everything is how it should be again. How can I solve this problem?
My system:
AMD Athlon64 3500+ (Winchester)
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum-54G (tried different bios releases)
1024MB Corsair XMS Twinx DDR500
ATi Radeon 9800 Pro
2 80GB Maxtor S-ATA (DMA Mode enabled)
Creative Labs SoundBlaster Live! Player 5.1
MorLipf

Hello,
I copy files to my bro sometimes, 5Gb - all the steam GCF files for CS/HL/CSS/HL2.
My network usage is 80%-92%
My CPU usage is always under 15%.
It is worse when using 512Mb but as you have 1Gb it shouldn't be bad.
Check in the device manager, your cd drives should be set to DMA mode.

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