K8N Neo3 and Vista

Is this board Vista compatible? The MSI website says it is but I cannot find any Vista Raid Drivers. Please help with running Raid1 with this board. Also, if anything is plugged into the onboard USB ports (like a card reader or front USB ports) I cannot access the BIOS setup.
Thanks for your help

The K8N Neo3 is based on the nForce4-4x chipset so should be Vista compatible. I've no experience with Vista on a nForce system but I gather the M$ built-in drivers should handle the IDE-SATA ports OK; what happens with RAID, I've no idea... whether the nForce4 RAID driver is also built-in to the OS or not. nVidia has a driver update on their Web site for Vista for nForce4" http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_winvista32_15.01.html so maybe you can try that. I recommend installing the OS on a single plain drive and converting over to RAID in Windows later: the key here is that NVRaid allows setting up a single-drive RAID-0 striping array which can be converted to a RAID-1 using the MediaShield tool, which is under nVidia's Control Panel for Vista. To get the RAID drivers loaded, set the blank spare up as a single-drive RAID-0 first.

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Problems with MSI K8N-Neo3 and Command Queing.

I had some problems with two computers, based on the MSI K8N-Neo3 mainboard - they wouldn't boot into Windows after installing the drivers for the graphiccards. Before the breakdown of the forum, some people suggested that I was using to small PSUs. In the meantime I've solved the problem, by disabling the Command Queing feature in the drivers. Seems there may be a problem with the MSI board, and Maxtor SATA drives with Command Queing.
Key system components for the two computers:
AMD Sempron 3000+
MSI K8N-Neo3
1 GB Kingston PC3200 DDR-SDRAM
MSI GeForce 6600GT or MSI GeForce 6600LE graphics
Maxtor 120 GB SATA disk (6L120M0)
Sony DVD-RW drive
Anyway, I wanna say thanks for the quick answers...

Thats not what I read (assuming this is the same correct model)
420W double unit
DC O/P Load Max
+5V 42 Amp.
+12V 16 Amp.
+3.3V 28 Amp.
-5V 0.5 Amp.
-12V 0.8 Amp.
+5VSB 2 Amp.
Agreed that one is 420W, but is that it or not?

K8N NEO3 - freezes during startup if a USB is attached

Just got a K8N NEO3 and installed it with a Sempron 3000+. Everything works fine untill I add a USB wireless network and restart the machine.
When the USB is plugged in, the machine freezes up right after it has displayed that its a Sempron 3000+ that is installed - so before showing both RAM and the different Harddrives.
At the same time the harddrive lamp lights constantly.
If I remove the USB wireless network - its fine.
I then tried with a USB flashstick - same problem. I have now tried with 3 different USB devices - incl. a keyboard.
I have tried all the USB sockets - same problem.
If I start the machine without an USB device attached, I can attach the USB device afterwards and it will work perfectly. Right until I shut down the machine. Then it hangs again.
I have ensured that I have the latest BIOS update - v. 1.0 from 1-7-2005.
Any ideas ???

For the people talking about the front USB problem this has been well documented in these forums and isn't limited to just Antec. Here is what I've posted on the subject in the USB threads:
Quote from: Frankeputer
Check to see if there is a wire running from your Front USB ports to the #10 slot of your USB block which connects to the motherboard header.
USB connector block layout which corresponds to the pin layout on boards with the Intel spec for USB. Do not cut the pin on the MOBO. You are removing/cutting the wire to the connector block from the case.
2 4 6 8 10(this wire, #10, not needed)
1 3 5 7 9(filled/key)
If you find a wire leading to the #10 spot on the block, remove that wire. My block has tabs so that you can pull the wire out, or you could snip/cut the wire leading to that position--if you cut the wire, be careful to cut the correct one and cut it in such a way that it may be repaired if you make a mistake. Make sure you wrap the wire, the exposed end/s, you remove/cut with electrical tape so as not to accidentally cause a short. I actually folded the wire back and wrapped it.
2 posts to read--Here and Here.
This seems to be a common issue involving many different case manufacturers. I don't know how it applies to other MOBO manufacturers, but in these forums it is not limited to a specific MSI model or supported chipset(Intel or AMD).

K8N neo3 hangs and restarts

Hi, i have a problem with the k8n neo3 mainboard, it restarts and hangs randomly. These problems occur randomly with no visible pattern.
The pc is composed of a Sempron (palermo) 3000+, two pci cards (sound and network), a pair of Samsung ddr 400 memory, a radeon 9500 AGP card plugged into the AGR slot, and an outdated 300w atx1 power supply.
There is another problem too, some usb devices from the external ports when plugged at start don't work until they are re-plugged when the OS has been fully loaded.
What can be the cause of these problems?
I think that it can be some incompatibility with the agr slot or the power supply is not cappable to supply enough power.
Thanks

Quote from: fokker on 08-April-06, 05:57:44
The ram are OK, used it in a k7n2 for month without a single hang.
Just to be sure, run your system with just one stick at a time (try both sticks of course) and see if it still hangs. If it doesn't hang with just one stick, then it's a memory issue or your mobo doesn't like those RAMs in pairs for some reason.
If either stick alone still hangs like before, try swapping in RAM from another computer. And if using another computer's known-to-work RAM still hangs, then it's pretty conclusive that it's not a memory issue.
Costs you nothing to find out, so I'd check and make sure before exploring other options (like replacing the PSU).
Good luck.

K8N Neo3 not recognizing Advantek and CNET NIC

I just got my motherboard this week after an unfortunate incident with my previous PC (it involved burning). I had 2 NIC's in that PC, a CNET PRO200WL and an Advantek ALN-101C. This new motherboard, K8N Neo3, has Gigabit LAN but it is not recognizing either of my previous NIC's, even when I disable the onboard LAN. Just to check that the NIC's were not the problem, I bought another Advantek NIC (the same model) and tried it with the same problem. Some more details: the old Advantek NIC causes the PC to not boot. The new Advantek NIC does not prevent the PC from booting, but is not recognized by Windows XP (no add hardware, driver install). I tried a manual install but it is still not recognized. The CNET NIC, on the other hand, is recognized by Windows XP and the drivers are installed. However, it keeps saying the network cable is unplugged. I noticed that the green light on the CNET NIC came on when I inserted it in the PCI slot (without the PC on) and has not come off since. My onboard Gigabit LAN works fine but I need 2 LAN connections working, one for internet and one to network with another PC. I am relatively new at networking and have only networked my 2 PC's with a crossover cable and using Windows XP network setup wizard.

Can you list down all your pc spec's in full details including the PSU with the Watts and the Amp?? Have you tried to changed others pci slot but test on each one of it? On the way round tried to test your existing NIC cards into other PC? Check whether it can be auto detect by Windows or not? Check your cabling whether is it loosen or unplugged properly?

K8N Neo3-F and high system temp.

Hello,
I just bought a new retail K8N Neo3-F (7135) from one of the closing CompUSA stores. The problem is that the System temp in both the bios and Core Center reports higher than my cpu temp. Right now my cpu temp is 32 deg c and my system temp is 42 deg c. I've seen it get as high as 50 deg c. Now the board came with the 1.6 bios. I have tried the 1.7 and currently running the 1.8 modded bios and still no change. Does anyone know if this is a known problem? If so is there a fix or does my board need to go back to MSI. Thanks
AMD64-3400 (2.4ghz Venice)
K8N Neo3-F (7135)
BFG 650W P/S
EVEA 8800 GTS
2 gig G.Skill PC3200
74 gig Raptor
160 gig Segate sata
Lite-On DVD

Ok the system temp refers to the nf4 chip. That makes sense now. I thought the system temp refered to the temp inside the case. The fan is spinning fine with a rpm of 6250 according to Core center.

Are RAID arrays portable between K8N Neo Platinum and K8N Neo3-F?

I think my K8N Neo Platinum might be toast. If that's the case and I upgrade to the K8N Neo3-F, do I get to keep my RAID arrays or do I lose all my data?

I was thinking that since I was going from nForce3-250 to nForce4 I might have trouble porting those RAID arrays over. As such, I'm debating whether or not I should get a pricey K8N Neo to replace the one I have or upgrade to a much cheaper PCI-e K8N Neo3-F (opportunity to get a new vid card, too). Anyway, I have data on the RAID array that I REALLY want to get back but my current mobo is not letting me do that at all for some reason. Not sure if anyone has tried this or not, but I would REALLY like to recover my data without buying an expensive old motherboard. MSI support has given me the usual runaround with "Have you read the manual? Blah blah blah..."

Can't boot WinXPpro on K8N Neo3 gold

Setting up new mobo and cpu, keeping all old peripheral hardware, including hard drive with XP Pro.
Old board was ASUS A7S333 with SIS745 chipset, new board is K8N Neo3 gold (MS-7135 ATX) with nVIDIA nForce4-4X chipset and AMD K8 cpu. The hard drive is a Maxtor DiamondMax Plus8 40Gb with two partitions, one an old WinME and the other is WinXP pro.
The system posts, default selects the WinXP, and tries to boot the os but fails with a stop code of 7B "Inaccessible boot device". The drive itself is fine, ran chkdsk diagnostics, even connected it as secondary drive on third machine and it comes up ok.
Reading other forum topics it appears that the change of chipsets from old mobo to new requires a driver change for the IDE controller. One forum topic "Can't boot Win2K SP4 on K8N Neo2" indicates that the Recovery console helped to fix the problem by reverting back to a plain vanilla version of a Microsoft driver but there were no explicit instructions on how to do this. I can get the Recovery console up from my XP installation CD but its not obvious what to do from there.
It took me a long time to get the WinXP system configured, patched, tweaked, apps installed, patched..... so I'd hate to start all over.
Anybody know how to pull this off?
thx
hoser

Quote from: hoser77 on 12-June-05, 08:20:32
how do I remove all system drivers beforehand?
Hi there,
You can do this removal in the old system where it used to work and in safe mode.
Be well....

K8n neo3 & geforce4 mx440se - can't get to work agp at 4x

I have some questions:
How do you enable agr slot in k8n neo3?
How do you verify that is running at agp 4x or 8x?
When I open Control panel/display/MSI information in AGP/PCIE information none of the options are marked.
i've tried 6681 drivers (reccomended in the user guide) and the screen went black when windows loaded, so I installed other drivers. I also updated the vga bios.
System Information:
Mainboard Manufacturer    MSI
Mainboard Model Name    MS-7135 (K8N Neo3-F)
Mainboard BIOS Vendor    Phoenix
Mainboard BIOS Version    1.10
VGA Card Manufacturer    MSI
VGA Card Model Name      MS-8847 (GeForce4 MX440 SE)
VGA Card BIOS Vendor    NVIDIA
VGA Card BIOS Version    4.17.20.13.00
VGA Card Driver Version 4345
Athlon64 2800+
512MB kingston DDR
WindowsXP SP2

I agree that my msi geforce4 mx440se is a piece of poo, but I get angry when this stupid agp card doesn't work ok with such a wonderful motherboard (k8n neo3). Even in windowsXP some applications run very slow, that's a major problem.
I could resolve the problem until I get a pcie card: good and bad news!
The agr works fine now.
While I was seaching for information I found in www.msi.com.tw, in the K8N Neo3 webpage a link to the Test Report. I followed it and open there a file named vga.pdf
And I discovered that MSI say something different from what they do in the user's manual.
In the user's manual:
GeForce 4 MX 440 (MSI MS-8847) passed the tests with 6.6.8.1 drivers and 4.17.0045 bios .
(vga nº 43 in the list)
In the vga.pdf:
GeForce 4 MX 440 (MSI MS-8847) passed the tests with 2.9.5.8 drivers and 4.17.0045 bios.
(agp nº 18 in the list)
MSI made a huge mistake here (the driver version is very different).
So I installed the oldest drivers I had: 3.1.0.0 drivers (they were in the VGA's installation CD, released in 07/30/2002)
Then I tested with several games and the system worked better.
The con is I can't upgrade the drivers because I will have problems again.
I think MSI should pay more attention when they print something.

K8N Neo3 Issues (At the end of my rope)

The parts I have are as follows:
1x K8N Neo3 MOBO
1x Sapphire x1600 Radeon Video Card 512MB PCIE
1x AMD64 Sempron +3000 (Socket 754)
1x WD 100GB HDD
1x WD 250GB HDD
2x DRAM Master PC3200 DDR400 Memory Modules
1x DWL D-Link 11.0Mbps Wireless USB Adapter
1x LiteOn 16X DVD Dual Drive (ATAPI/E-IDE)
Some things to note:
All of the parts have been tested in other machines and work perfectly. I'm currently running XP Pro on a 15gig partition on the 100GB HDD. All of the drivers are installed on this partition as well as firefox. On the other partition on that drive, I have 3DMark05 and windows media player classic installed. Both partitioned were made after formatting the entire drive. On the 250GB HDD, I have some anime and various wallpapers. Hardware acceleration currently set to two notches left of full. All of the drivers are up to date, and I have flashed the BIOS.
The problems:
First off, my CD driver could not read CDs all too well. In the middle of installation I'd get tons of errors which was odd considering the fact that the CD (XP Pro) worked in other comps. After I flashed the BIOS however, this problem was removed, or rather, it pops up less frequently.
Another issue I'm having is with the memory. Both memory modules work well, and were memtested with no errors, however, unless I go to Advanced Chipset Features in the BIOS and enter into DRAM Configuration and change the timing mode to manual, set the Memclock Index Value to 250MHZ and the CAS# Latency to 3, I can't boot into XP. Instead, it'll clear POST, and then pretend like it's going to take me to XP, and then reboot. On the issue with memory, it's interesting to note that with my old sempron processor (AMD 3200+), I don't have to change any BIOS settings to get the RAM to work.
The next problem on the list is with my video card. As mentioned previously, it's a Sapphire x1600 Radeon 512MB PCIE and I can't get it to work on this system for the life of me. I tested the card in a friend's computer (uninstalled his drivers and installed mine before attempting) and it worked like a dream. In mine however, whenever I go to run a graphic intensive program such as 3DMark05, it locks up after about 10 seconds, some times sooner. Occaisonaly VPU will kick in, but usually I have to perform a reboot. Even the little car animation in catalyst control center locks up my computer. It's interesting to note however that when watching anime, that I can usually go about 2 or 3 episodes before my computer freezes up on me, or just reboots.
It's interesting to note that my computer has not rebooted on me while surfing the net, or typing stuff up.
Another issue is that it seems like I can't go 10 or 15 minutes without something shutting down, such as firefox, or msn messenger due to errors. I've reinstalled windows and formatted twice now, and I'm still continually getting conflicts. I'm not sure if this issue might be tied into the ones I'm having with the motherboard, or if that even makes sense, but considering the fact I wasn't having these issues till I switched to this one, I'm ready to put the blame on it.
My theories:
My current theory is that there is a device driver conflict somewhere. After much searching, reinstalling, and a lot of crying, I've not been able to figure out what the video card is conflicting with. While this issue might be better dealt with on some ATI fourm, ATI has not such fourm I could find, and since I'm having issues with the board overall, I figured I'd post it here.
I have no theory as to why one processor would have me to change bios setting to get the RAM to work, and why another wouldn't.
I have no theory as to why I can watch anime, but not play games.
What I'm hoping for:
I'm open to any possible solutions to the problems I'm currently experiencing, and would even be grateful for possible causes if no solution can be met. If all else fails, and I can't get anything to work, (even though all the other parts work on other boards), I'll assume the board is faulty and just RMA it considering the fact that the people I bought it from don't accept returns.

Quote from: Xfraze on 03-February-06, 19:26:38
I plan to get a 450W PSU today and see if that helps, I have my fingers crossed though. Last time I though my computer had a power issue, it turned out the problem was somthing else and I forkedout some cash for nothing.
Yep, that happens ... that is why I always recommend to try it out with a borrowed PSU first. Still, I have the feeling that things are moving in the right direction Maybe it is time to take a closer look at the videocard - you have any idea of the temperature of the card under stress - or about the temperatures in the computer in general? CPU temp, case temp, etc?

MSI K8N Neo3-F + MSI NX 6200LE-TD128E (PCX) - won't boot

Last time I bought 2 things:
Mobo - MSI K8N Neo3-F
Graphic Card - MSI NX 6200LE-TD128E with TC (PCX)
When I start PC I have seen only black screen and hear noise from PC Speaker
Mobo didn't see graphic card. To check graphic card I install it on second mobo (MSI K8N Neo4 Platinium) and when I start it,it work fine.
To check PCX slot on mobo i install second graphic card (MSI NX6600 GT) and when I start it, it work fine too.
Next step was mobo BIOS update but it nothing change and PC with K8N Neo3 + NX6200LE still won't boot.
Graphic card BIOS is newest.
Anyone have idea why K8N Neo3-F + NX6200LE doesn't want work together.
PS1. sorry for my english
PS2. K8N Neo3-F + Geforce MX 400 on AGP work fine.

Quote from: kakarocht on 05-February-06, 09:59:11
Gives more specs / details on your hardware especially on your PSU!! I'm worried that your psu problem as it need more power in order to boot up. Regards.
PROCESOR AMD SEMPRON 3000+
MSI K8N NEO3-F
ELIXIR 512MB DDR400
DVD-REC LITEON SHM-165P6S
WD CAVIAR 80GB (WD800JB)
MSI NX6200LE TC 128MB
I tried with 2 PSU
1- Modecone 400W
2- Chiftec 420W
With both don't boot
but mobo + NX6600GT with Modecon PSU work fine.

No BIOS update of K8N Neo3?

K8n neo3 has been sold for a long time,
but I still can't find any bios update.
I use 754 sempron 2800+ and can't adjust CPU VID.
And every time I write an email to ask if there's a bios update, I got nothing but some links of FAQ.
What should I do to tell MSI I really want a bios update for NEO3?

Send an E-mail to the costomer support of MSI ,explaining your problem.If you're lucky they will give you help and even a costom(or beta ) Bios.

K8N Neo3 Unable to use keyboard in BIOS setup

I have a K8N Neo3 motherboard
System info:
1 gig memory
AGP GeForce FX 5500 128 MB DDR AGP 8X
AMD Sempron 3000+
I start up the system and I hit del key to get into the bios setup, the BIOS setup screen appears but when I hit enter key on my keyboard nothing happens, I tried several other keyboards with the same results. If I do not hit the del key at start up it asks me to hit the F1 key which I do and I get no response???
The memory and CPU info comes up at boot and no problem there??
Please advise, many thanks

Quote from: BG84 on 17-July-06, 05:40:09
try to reset cmos.remove baterry and leave for 10min, while reseting with the jumper or button
Many thanks for the help, your procedure that you suggested did work for me and now I was able to setup my bios.
Many thanks once again.

Is the MSI NX6600LE TD256E incompatible with MSI K8N Neo3 mainboard ?

Hello people,
I have a very ugly problem here. I have an MSI K8N Neo3 mainboard here, that with PCI Express and AGP slots.
It was working fine for a while, so I dont think the mainboard itself is bad.
Originally, an Inno3D Geforce 6200 with Turbo Cache, was installed on that computer. However, in the past week the owner buyed a copy of Battlefield 2 to have some fun, he also buyed an MSI NX6600LE TD256E PCI Express graphic card to replace the Inno3D Geforce 6200 with Turbo Cache.
I got that PC here today, in order to install the new MSI Graphic card, and also install the game. Now comes the ugly part: I cannot get that card to work in that computer, and I don't know why.
At first I thought that the card was defective, so I took it out of that PC and installed it on my own PC, and the card works in my PC (see signature), and my PC's graphics card works fine on the other PC (the K8N Neo3). Even the old Inno3D card works fine.
Since the card works fine in my PC (I've used it while writing this post), and my PC's graphic card works fine in the other PC, as well as the old Inno3D card, the only thing left for me to think is that the NX6600LE TD256E card is not compatible with the K8N Neo3 board, but that seems too strange for me.
Can any one here tell me if there's some kind of compatibility problems between the MSI K8N Neo3 mainboard and the MSI NX6600LE TD256 Graphic card ?
Any help is welcome,

Update:
The card is compatible with the board. What was incompatible with the card, was a little chip in the board (fried) which I didn't noticed during the first inspection of the board.
Curious thing is that it accepted other cards and not the NX6600LE, but in the end, not even my own NX6600 card, or any other PCIe card worked at all. I guess the little chip suffered some kind of damage due to power problems in the place where the computer was. With this in mind, an electrical technician will be sent to the place to verify the electrical installations for problems of any kind, so we can correct them and prevent future problems.
Back to the board thing, a new K8N Neo4-F board has taken the place of the semi-toasted K8N Neo3 board. Also, and thanks to the hibrid design of the K8N Neo3, we will still be able to use it. The PCIe slot is dead for sure, but the AGR Slot still works well, so we'll use it for traditional desktop aplications, such as word processors, internet surfing, e-mail, document scanning and printing, etc, etc, etc...
Well, that's all. I just wanted you guys to know; so no one keeps looking for an an answer to this (now solved) mystery. For me this case is now closed, so if no one is interested into it, Admins... feel free to delete the entire thread
Be well you all,
Edwin

Upgrade assistance - K8N Neo3

Hi there,
I'm currently considering upgrading. I've got my eye on the new Uli chipset, although it appears to be some ways off, so being impatient I wanted to know if the K8N Neo3 would be a good choice.
ATM I have -
Athlon XP3000+
1GB PC2700 DDR Ram
Asus Geforce A6600GT (not listed as compatible)
Audigy 2
Now, I'm after a PCI-e board so I can perform a future upgrade to that, but I don't want to spend all my money now. The K8N Neo3 looks good to me, although I'm worried that it'll be incompatible with my current AGP card.
I'm willing to upgrade my Athlon to a 64, and will consider upgrading to 1gig highest required memory for the Neo. Does anyone know if the card is going to be an issue?

The board is quite a good upgrade board. Your card will work but performance from it will be lower than before.
As for memory, it only handles 2 RAM modules. And it is very picky with the memory. You will have to run single-sided memory or really really good double-sided to use 200 mhz FSB or higher. However, if you have a stick PC2700 and get another one you will have no problems. I had quite a few problems finding memory that worked well. No i use GEIL adn they work very well with the board.
The audigy2 will work fine in the lowest PCI-slot. The onboard sound is crap so be glad you have one already.

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