K8N Neo3 with a GeForce 7800 GTX?

Hello, I got a AMD64 3200 (socket 754) processor with a K8N Neo Platinum motherboard.
I want to upgrade my videocard and I am thinking of a GeForce 7800 GTX. Because of the futurure I want a pci-e card, so I am thinking of changing my motherboard to a K8N Neo3 motherboard. I searched everywhere online (including this forum and the msi site) but I can't find if this motherboard is compatible with a GeForce 7800 GTX. Can anyone provide me with the answer? Thanks.

Quote from: Luke51087123 on 25-August-05, 08:51:29
neo 3?? thought there was only 2 and 4. Im prob wrong but the nforce 4 chipset is the only one for pciE
I think you are right about the nforce 4, but the K8N Neo3 got the nforce 4. Here is the link:
K8N Neo3

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