K8N Neo3 won't start

I've just installed a new MSI K8N Neo3 with an AMD Sempron 3100+, and at first everything seemed just fine. The assembled computer started just fine, and I started installing Windows XP. After having formatted the hard drive the installation suddenly stopped and the computer went dead. And after that it hasn't started again.
I've tried to disconnect everything except the CPU and the power switch from the motherboard, and it still won't start when I connect the power cords and press the power switch. I can see both the mother board fan and the CPU fan "jerking" for a second, but then everything is dead again.
When I disconnect the power cord that powers the CPU from JPW1 and try to power up, the fan on the motherboard starts, or at least the motherboard fan and the chassis fan start. If I power down and reattach the cord to JPW1 and the power up again, I get the same "jerking" of the fans and then nothing.
Does anybody know what can be wrong?
El Cubo
Norway

Before anyone can help you.......... we need your system components. Go into your 'Profile' and list ALL your components, including the exact model power supply with voltage/current specs.
You may just have a poor quality power supply...... like many others here.
welcome aboard.....

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HI!!!
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I asemmbled this configuration a few days ago.And it worked just fine.
Whenever I turn'd on my CPU it did't recognize the Procesor and it worked on 1.61GHz.
And then sudenly CPU wouldn't start,at the top wrote that the Main processor:Procesor AMD Model Unknown, and at the bottom was message that i can press DEL or F11,but what ever I press,nothing hapens..
The CPU is completly frozen???!
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HELP

MSI K8N Neo3(MS-7135 v1.X) Motherboard
OS WINXP SP1
AMD Sempron 2800++ (with box cooler)
512MB UNB PC3200 CL2.5 400MHz Apacer
Asus Geforce 5200FX 128DDR
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MS INDUSTRIAL MODEL:KY-550ATX P4
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I/P
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3.OLP BUILT IN
and by the way i haven't flashed the bios i only downloaded it with live update i wanted to
learn more about how it's done before i do it, so i guess it's an older ver, (I didn't flash it the CPU broke down as you can see)
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PHOENIX- AWARD BIOS V6.00PG-an Energy Star......
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under all that is a message "Main Procesor: Procesor AMD Model Unknown" (nothing happens after that)
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K8N Neo3 won't boot

I have put together a barebones kit that will not boot. Everything is new and I have double checked everything to make sure it's installed correctly. When I power the machine up the fans on the motherboard, video card, and power supply all come on. The cpu fan comes on sometimes and sometimes it doesn't. It will start another time and stop after about 15 or 20 seconds. I'm at my wits end over this one. I have built several boxes before and have never run into anything like this. The PSU came with the case. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Here is my setup:
Memory: Corsair VS1GB4003C PC3200 1024MB 128Mx64 184DIMM
MB: K8N Neo3 (MS-7135 v2.X ATX Mainboard) with nForce 4-4X chipset
CPU: AMD Athlon64 3200+
Video: nVidia GeForce 7300GS PCI Express 16x
Bios: Out of Box
HD: Maxtor 120GB
Optical: Liteon 16x Dual Layer DVD RW
Cooling: Spire Heatsink and Fan cooling kit
Power Supply Details:
450w
+3.3v 26a
+5v 35a
+12v 15a
-12v 0.8a
-5v 0.5a

Quote from: Hans on 07-April-07, 23:31:17
tcsenter, this has been discussed very often in this forum. 15A is NOT enough, period. If you want to insist on this, well be my guest. But don't come crying if your psu burns up half your system. You have been warned about that now.
It has been "discussed", but those discussions NEVER withstand any scrutiny when I enter them - period. Everyone dives out the back door or threatens to have me banned. Why?
Because I PROVE my argument using the very same "simple math" you cite. Unless you are referring to some new fuzzy math that wasn't taught when I went to grade school? I get my numbers from the manufacturer datasheets, which are absolute worst case scenarios that can't be found outside of AMD's R&D lab, or actual load measurements using reasonably precise methods:
K8N Neo3 core logic = 0.5A
AMD Athlon64 3200+ = 9A MAX
GeForce 7300GS = 1A MAX
Maxtor 120GB = 2A (spin-up)
Liteon 16x DVD RW = 2A (spin-up)
Cooling Fans x 2 = 0.5A
Total +12V load = 15A
This assumes 100% loading, which is impossible during POST and until the operating system begins loading.
Sources:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/30430.pdf
http://www.xbitlabs.com/misc/picture/?src=/images/video/power-noise/7300gs.gif&1=1

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PS1. sorry for my english
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Quote from: kakarocht on 05-February-06, 09:59:11
Gives more specs / details on your hardware especially on your PSU!! I'm worried that your psu problem as it need more power in order to boot up. Regards.
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Quote from: hoser77 on 12-June-05, 08:20:32
how do I remove all system drivers beforehand?
Hi there,
You can do this removal in the old system where it used to work and in safe mode.
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Quote from: BG84 on 17-July-06, 05:40:09
try to reset cmos.remove baterry and leave for 10min, while reseting with the jumper or button
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Many thanks once again.

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AMD Athlon64 3200+
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MaYBE I'm not really understanding the problem here...Are you trying to use the switch on the PSU to begin the boot process? If so, hopefully, you should continue to have trouble doing that, it's not supposeed to work that way. If the computer starts with the power switch on the PSU there might be a problem with the CMOS jumper, jbat1, being in the wrong position...continue to post your changes and progress and someone will continue to help you, there's a lot of good heads around here, but there's a lot of guys with problems too...add as much of your configuration info to your signature as you can find out, that will help us help you as well...

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Hello
I have a brand new K8N Neo3 with the following setup:
A64 3400
2Gb DDR400
MSI 7900GTO
SB Audigy LS
Tekram DC395U
Tekram U3W (boot device)
When I use my good old keytronic keyboard on PS/2 connector, it work for some times then I get keyboard errors mostly for all boot.
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The keyboard is working ok on another setup, other PS/2 keyboard get the same issue.
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If I start the machine without an USB device attached, I can attach the USB device afterwards and it will work perfectly. Right until I shut down the machine. Then it hangs again.
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Quote from: Frankeputer
Check to see if there is a wire running from your Front USB ports to the #10 slot of your USB block which connects to the motherboard header.
USB connector block layout which corresponds to the pin layout on boards with the Intel spec for USB. Do not cut the pin on the MOBO. You are removing/cutting the wire to the connector block from the case.
2 4 6 8 10(this wire, #10, not needed)
1 3 5 7 9(filled/key)
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2 posts to read--Here and Here.
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Quote from: xenopolis on 18-August-05, 11:58:26
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Not really a good thing
It shouldn't matter whether or not your power LED is hooked up. But if your case doesn't include that and it is somewhat old and you are using an older powersupply this could be the issue. Please post complete system specs including the max amps for the 3.3v 5v and 12v rails. This info can be found on a sticker on the side of the PSU.
Good Luck
Jeremy

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Thanks

Quote from: fokker on 08-April-06, 05:57:44
The ram are OK, used it in a k7n2 for month without a single hang.
Just to be sure, run your system with just one stick at a time (try both sticks of course) and see if it still hangs. If it doesn't hang with just one stick, then it's a memory issue or your mobo doesn't like those RAMs in pairs for some reason.
If either stick alone still hangs like before, try swapping in RAM from another computer. And if using another computer's known-to-work RAM still hangs, then it's pretty conclusive that it's not a memory issue.
Costs you nothing to find out, so I'd check and make sure before exploring other options (like replacing the PSU).
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Hi people, I am new for here, in the truth he is my first post, and already I arrive asking for aid.
I mounted the following PC:
Athlon 64 2800
ATI 9800PRO
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Sorry, but you'll have to get a new graphics card.
According to MSI's website ("The AGR slot is a special design that only supports compatible AGP VGA cards. For more detailed information on compatible AGP VGA cards, please refer...." http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/agr/7135agr.pdf), the Radeon 9800 series is not supported by the Advanced Graphics Riser on your motherboard. The 9700 series is supported.
A BIOS change won't do you any good.

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this spiffy new motherboard has been working very well for me, except for the lan - it doesn't do anything.
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Before you jump to conclusions and make judgements, perhaps you might consider that there may be a configuration issue, perhaps just a faulty board. It doesn't mean they are all like that just because it doesn't work for you.
I don't mean to be rude, but I suggest you get all your facts before jumping to conclusions or making threats about posting negative remarks else where. You only serve to alienate those that may want to help.
What is the IP range settings in the DHCP of the router currently? (Try leaving at defaults, reset the router if you have to)
What, if any changes did you make in the TCP/IP settings of the onboard LAN adapter? (you shouldn't have to make any)
Obtain an IP Address Automatically
Obtain DNS Server Address Automatically
Make sure there are no gateway addresses, you can put that in later if you like.
And then what do you have selected: Control Panel>Internet Options>Connections>Lan Settings? (Should be nothing selected)
Also, Control Panel>Add Remove Programs>Add Remove Windows Components>Networking Services> Make sure all are unselected, primarily the Internet Gateway Device Discovery and Control Client. Sorry, that's for XP
Restart the computer if necessary.
Get to a command prompt, type "cmd" from the "Run..." on your Start menu
ipconfig /release
ipconfig /renew
Good luck...

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Hi, I'm new at this forums and I already read the section about "find answers quick" (well... something alike that), but in the memory that works/doesn't work, everyone talks about the K8N Neo4 Platinum.
I have a K8N Neo3-F Mobo, that comes with nForce4 chipset, and I'm having RAM problems... I've tried everything I could, but a friend of mine told me that my mobo can't stand my RAM
I'm using Kingston Value Ram CL3 (3-3-3), 2x512 MB.
Has anyone tried this RAM before? Eny problems in tha past I should know about? Would it help if I put the RAM clock to 166MHz instead of 200Mhz that is the default?
Any help welcome...

Quote from: MGP on 01-March-06, 01:26:36
It would help to know your system specs including P/S, OS and exactly what problems you are having.
I can give you a tip to start with.
Adjsut your memory voltage to 2.6 or 2.65 and manually set your memory timings to 2.5-5-5-7-2T
Mobo: the one I said: MSI K8N NEO3-F
Proc: AMD Athlon 64 3200+
RAM: 2 x Kingston Value RAM KVR400X64C3A/512
OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2
Currently the BIOS detects my memory as 3-3-3-8, wouldn't be bad if I change the first 3 for a 2.5?
Most of the problems I have are while playing 3D games (World of Warcraft / Warcraft III), it is as simple like the PC crashes: the Screen Freezes, and if I'm listening to music, it starts to sound like a really bad DJ...
My PC in not overclocked, however, I tried running a program called prime95, that basically tests processor and memory of a PC to see if it is stable... well, it has 3 kinds of test: processor test, memory test, and combined.
- When I run the Processor test, it gives no problem at all after several hours, it works fine.
- When I run any of the other tests, it gives problems (errors) after a couple minutes... even SECONDS!
The problem with prime95 is that it works only to tell that your PC either has problems or not, but it doesn't tell you what they are.
Hope this information is usefull and you can help me.
Ty for reading.

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