K8N Neo4 BIOS 1.4, SATA

After updating the BIOS to v.1.4, I can't install Windows XP anymore. The installer complains that I have no hard drive. In fact, I have two Seagate SATA HDs. I had to downgrade to v.1.2. What is the problem of v.1.4, or Windows?

If it helps any, my new system has been solid using 3.1, ever since I built it, two months ago. Yesterday, hoping to fix sporadic Battlefield 2 demo crashes, I went ahead via MSI Live Monitor, and flashed my bios to 3.4 (these bios numbers can be confusing, but I'm pretty sure 1.4 = 3.4).
For me, this was a very bad idea. With 3.4, I thought it wasn't even seeing my sata drives, but realized if I let the system sit, it would go ahead and boot after a long boot time, roughly 3 minutes (and the system gave a flurry of "new hardware found" activity, too quickly for me to see what all it modified). I tried everything, clearing CMOS, turning off everything in the bios that I didn't use, and etc. No matter what I did, I got that 3 minute boot-up, like the bios was trying to init something that wasn't there, and finally timing-out and booting from my hard drive. And, during the 3 minutes, the LEDs on the debug bracket were all four lit, indicating that the OS was booting.
Also, the SIL 3231 sata controller no longer had a driver associated with it in Device Manager. No matter what I tried, I couldn't fix it short of re-installing Windows XP, which I wasn't about to do for now.
When I looked at System Information, I saw that the bios change had changed a whole bunch of starting addresses, of nearly every system component. That seemed really strange to me.
Finally this morning, I flashed the bios back to 3.1, and everything is working fine again. The system boots up normally again, nice and fast, my SIL 3231 sata controller's driver is recognized again, and all is well. In System Information, I see that all of the starting addresses have been put back to what they were.
Take it for what it's worth. As for me, I won't be upgrading my bios again anytime soon, unless I can figure out what the problem was.

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MOVED: [Athlon64] K8N Neo4 Bios ver 1.50 eats batteries

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[Athlon64] K8N Neo4 Bios ver 1.50 eats batteries

Hi, Takesix.
Unfortunately, you are not the only person with this problem. I purchased a non-SLI version of this board about 6 weeks ago and am on my third battery, all from different manufacturers. The board was originally flashed with V1.50 but I flashed it to v1.30 because I had read that it was a better version. This has not stopped the draining battery problem. Have e-mailed MSI and Monarch Computer tech support hoping to get an answer but haven't received any replys yet. To read others strories go to the following link. https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=84120.0 Incidentally, how old is your board? Wonder if it was a specific lot?

K8N Neo4 BIOS 1.8 hates my harddrive

Okay, hi everone. I've seen a couple of threads on problems that seem similar to mine, but guessworks and assumptions are what got me where I am, so I'll ask specifically. I'm just half-educated in hardware matters (the worst kind, I know), so be gentle please.
Alright, so originally I was having a problem with my system restarting after shutdown, so I tried downloading upgrades for my motherboard (K8N Neo4 Platinum). The Liveupdate utility gave me BIOS 1.8, which I used through the windows GUI, apparently successfully. Well, until I restarted at least. Now, my main HD (listed by the BIOS as SAMSUNG SP1614C) has changed position from primary master to third master and whenever I try to move it to the top of the boot sequence, I get a blue screen crash, informing me that this is for my own safety and I should run "chkdsk" (however I should manage that). I'm pretty sure it's not the HD that developed an error all of a sudden. Sometimes I get the option of trying safe mode, which of course changes nothing. The flash utility made a floppy, but it seems that's just for putting the same BIOS back on.
What should I do?

Quote from: Azure_One on 03-September-05, 22:38:00
The Liveupdate utility gave me BIOS 1.8, which I used through the windows GUI, apparently successfully. Well, until I restarted at least. Now, my main HD (listed by the BIOS as SAMSUNG SP1614C) has changed position from primary master to third master and whenever I try to move it to the top of the boot sequence, I get a blue screen crash, informing me that this is for my own safety and I should run "chkdsk" (however I should manage that).
I had that "chkdsk" message quite a few times along "restart" & "shutdowm" and overclock problems. the "chkdsk", "restart" & ""shutdown" stuff was solved by retiring Themaltake 430w PSU. The Tagan PSU and bios 1.6 allow me to overclock the way I want.

K8n NEO4 bios update to 1D: audigy + pci modem = no start (not even video signal

I updated my old 1.4 bios (alredy updated once) to 1D. The system was running fine but i was preparing for dual core update.
After bios update the neo4 was like dead. Not even video signal.
I removed both SB audigy and pci adsl modem and it started as usual.
If i add 1 pci card only (audigy OR PCI modem) the system works, while if i add BOTH the cards it is dead.
Changing slots did not solve the problem.
System is running with defaults values.
Any bios setting? do i have to go back to 1.4, 1.5 or 1.6 bios to use an athlon 64 X2 4800+?
Thx

Modded bios doesn't add cpu id code .
murdoK has a mod of 7125 here : http://msi-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=24337
4800 X2 supported since 1D according to this :
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=637&kind=1

K8n neo4 platinum sees my sata drive as ide

I have a western digital 80gb sata drive. I connected it to sata3 on my motherboard but bios says it's fifth ide primary. Is that normal? Because in some other board's bioses i saw it's shown as sata. I have bios v1.1 by the way.
And also in windows, there's an icon same as the icon which appears when a usb device is connected to the computer. When I right click, I see my hdd on the safely removable devices list. I'm using windows server 2003 enterprise edition and yes I have installed the sata driver by pressing f6 during the windows setup. Does this icon appears in everyone?

you will get the icon with sata drives as in theory they are hot pluggable
of course in practise if its your c drive you cannot touch it
but a server with raid 5 or 10 you can swap out drives on the fly

K8N Neo4 Platinum & Seagate 750GB SATA-II?

I bought a Maxtor 500gb SATA-II drive a few months ago and found it didn't work with my Neo4 platinum.
A few months down the line, the new 750GB seagate drives have caught my eye. Have the issues with this board and SATA-II drives been resolved?

markwm, Yes and No. Yes they have worked out the problems with Seagate SATA II [at least from my own experience] but there still could be drives on the shelf that need firmware upgrades. Seagate have got there act together now and will supply the firmware if required after you contact there tech support. Seeing as how the 750 GB is newer than my drives chances are it's ok right out of the box.

K8N Neo4 Bios MS-7125

Recently bought a 3700+ Sandiego.
Have tried Bios 1.4 and 1.52b and it seems that the Maxtor 300 gb problem is back.
After flashing Bios does not see HD.
Anyobody else have this problem or know if there is a fix for it?

Lord Anubis,
Try to eliminate a few things 1st.
What version of xp is your xp cd if older than SP1 this may be your issue. see -Installing a Microsoft OS & HD Size Restictions
luck

K8N Neo4 BIOS Flash Core centre problem

Hi All,
New here and with a question so here we go,
recently updated my bios with MSI live monitor and it updated the bios and everything is fine and works well except for core centre, evertime the computer starts it says core centre isn't compatible with your motherboard, have i done something wron and go back to previous bios version or is there a fix?? any help would be good.
thanks

Quote from: sixth on 03-September-05, 08:26:28
I just flashed my bios to version 1.8....i cant it to post past the windows xp boot screen.....anyone know why and what i can do??!!?!
Everything was fine before running 1.5....
I read a thread somewhere in this forum saying 1.8 is good if you have Sempron (E6?). If by some reason you have to flash 1.8, search for User syar2003's post. I followed his procedures and I flashed 1.6 successfully. Bios 1.5 gave me a lot of troubles.

K8N Neo4 Bios Flash to 1.8 Wont Boot Past Windows XP Loading

I just flashed my bios to version 1.8....i cant it to post past the windows xp boot screen.....anyone know why and what i can do??!!?!
Everything was fine before running 1.5....

Quote from: sixth on 03-September-05, 08:26:28
I just flashed my bios to version 1.8....i cant it to post past the windows xp boot screen.....anyone know why and what i can do??!!?!
Everything was fine before running 1.5....
I read a thread somewhere in this forum saying 1.8 is good if you have Sempron (E6?). If by some reason you have to flash 1.8, search for User syar2003's post. I followed his procedures and I flashed 1.6 successfully. Bios 1.5 gave me a lot of troubles.

K8N Neo4 hangs after bios update

Here is my situation:
Onboard ethernet seemed to die last night so I plugged in a usb wifi adpater - worked fine. Ran Live Update and updated the bios in windows (Not sure the version) and it seemed to install ok but hung at the "Restarting Windows" screen.
After a manual restart, it seems to start going through the motions but then gets to something like "NTLoader not available" and gives the option to restart.
I can get into the bios setup and all of my drives master/slaves appear to be there and I know it can see the floppy drive as I stuck one in and got the "Non system disk" message.
Would creating an ms-dos install disk and a disk with the latest K8N Neo4 bios be my next setp?
Thx!
WH

if you're still having problems, try unhooking the sata's/ide's for all the drives except c: or whatever has the os. let it boot once, then rehook em up.
i just updated to the 1.50 bios on a neo4-f and it was trying to boot windows off the secondary ide drive even tho it's 2nd in order.

8800 gts /msi k8n neo4 f

I was wondering if anyone had this combo, or something close to it? Will i lose any of the sata ports behind the video card/pcie slot with the legnth of this card? If i do lose the #1&2 slots, i assume my raided hard drives will still work on 3&4 without any problems. I just figured i would ask before doing. The msi k8n neo4 platinum has 8 sata ports, so it shouldnt be a problem on that board. I know the purple sata ports are sata2, but are the orange ports sata2 also?
Edit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082

Quote from: micro5797 on 09-June-07, 00:42:30
I was wondering if anyone had this combo, or something close to it? Will i lose any of the sata ports behind the video card/pcie slot with the legnth of this card? If i do lose the #1&2 slots, i assume my raided hard drives will still work on 3&4 without any problems. I just figured i would ask before doing. The msi k8n neo4 platinum has 8 sata ports, so it shouldnt be a problem on that board. I know the purple sata ports are sata2, but are the orange ports sata2 also?
Edit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082
I have exactly this combo and it all fits fine. I can confirm that you can use all of the sata ports without problem because I have done just that.
Chip

K8N Neo4 Platinum, how to move MBR to sata (make it drive #1)?

I am not sure I am phrasing the question correctly, so bear with me. I have a K8N Neo4 platinum with the SiI3114 controller and sata ports 4-8 (I believe its what they are calling PCB 1.x) with bios v1.D. I moved the board to another box and installed winXP on it. I was running it with IDE hard drives. Everything was working great but the OS was running really slow so I bought a SATA 300 mb/s drive and pluged it into SATA1 (I read about using ports 3 and 4 for raid but I do not want to use the NVraid at all, it is disabled). Then I proceeded to reinstall win XP. In the setup, I deleted the original C partiton and created one on the sata drive and rebooted so that there would be no "C" drive confusion by the winxp setup (have had that problem before and this keeps it from happening). Went through the setup and the sata was correctly reported as "C". Told windows to install itself there but it told me that it needed to write to MBR on the old c drive but that, since I had deleted the partiton, it couldn't and had to format it. So I knew that something was wrong.
So I rebooted and disabled the ide bus that contained the old IDE drive and just left the CD ide bus enabled. WinXP installed fine with no complaints. Then it rebooted and I re-enabled the ide bus in the bios. It wouldn't boot into the partiton I just installed winxp on! To get it to boot, I had to use F11 (the bios boot menu) and select the sata drive. Went through the whole setup winXP thing and rebooted. Same problem, it wouldn't boot the sata drive. :(
As long as that ide bus with the old ide drive is enabled, it won't boot the sata drive! I have rearranged the boot order on the bios every way possible. I opened up the box and moved that ide chain with the old ide drive to the ide2 port and put the dvd drive on ide1. I made the old drive slave and the prior slave master. That didn't fix it either. How do I tell this motherboard that the 1st drive is the sata drive? How do I tell it the MBR should be there not on the old ide drive? How do I fix this? Thanks!

Thank you for your replies! Hans, thank you I will give it a go again doing full formats all the way. I usually use the full format when installing winXP but I did things in a different order than you instructed so I will definately try it.
Aicjofs, thank you, There are 3 hard drives in this system currently. There is the ide hard drive that used to be the "c" drive (a western digital 160gb ata133 7200rpm 8mb cache) and a second ide hard drive that is an extended partition with 1 logical drive with data on it (western digital 300gb ata133 7200rpm 8mb cache). Then there is a sata hard drive in sata1 port with 2 partitions one primary and one extended. The extended partion does have data on it as I moved stuff there after I got winXP up the 2nd time (western digital 250gb sata II 7200rpm 16mg cache). Right now, I have the ide drive with data on it as ide2 master and the old "c" drive as ide2 slave and it is unformatted and contains no partion information (I deleted the partition after I installed the SATA drive and installed winXP). XP won't boot. What happens is that, if I take the winxp cd out, it gives me a "no system" error. If I leave the WinXP cd in it boots that disk. However, if I use "f11" and choose to boot the sata drive, winxp comes up just fine. If I disable the ide bus with the two ide hard drives, it boots winxp just fine.
Edit: bios is v1.D. It feels like this mobo is telling windows setup that the master ide drive is the first disk and to ignore everything else. It feels like if I can just tell the mobo that the sata drive is the first disk then everything will work . It is late night where I am now, and I've been fighting with this since the afternoon so I might have to goto sleep but I will be back at it tomorrow and will go though what Hans instructed. If anyone has any otehr ideas, I'd really appreciate that as well.

XP64bit installation halts, K8N Neo4 Platinum - No SATA drives found?

My setup:
Athlon 64 3500+
K8N Neo4 Platinum
2GB OCZ 3200 Premier
2) WD Sata 80GB HD's (for RAID 0)
Nvidia 6800GT Extreme VGA
I was recently lucky enough to get my hands on a real Windows XP Pro64bit Extended Edition. I gathered quite a few 64bit drivers which claim to do the job (so they say.)
However I ran into a very strange issue during installation.
My main concern was getting RAID drivers to utilize after pressing F6 during the Windows install. Unfortunately I could not find Nvidia drivers so I went with the Silicon Image Sil3114 64bit drivers I got from their website. Copied them to a disk and thought I was ready to rock N roll. I have updated all BIOS to latest versions as of the date of this post.
Now I went into the RAID BIOS and setup my RAID 0 Array and both SATA drives are shown. All went well in this dept.
I began my installtion of XP64 and pressed F6 to install the RAID drivers. Popped the floppy in and the driver files were copied successfully.
I continued on to the point where you are prompted to setup Windows XP and it searches for any previous installs.
I continue to where I should get the dislmaimer and to press F8, however the install halts and say no hard drives were found. Setup cannot continue.
Any ideas as to why my drives are not being detected during installation? They show up fine under the RAID setup BIOS.
Any info or thoughts is truly appreciated.

You need to make your own floppy for the nvidia 64 ide drivers.
How to install Windows on SATA using F6 to load Drivers
Follow item 1 Obviously usinfg the Neo4 64bit unified driver pack Windows XP Professional x64 Edition
luck

Maxtor 6Y160MOSTD 160GB DiamondMax Plus 9 SATA/150 -- on -- MSI K8N Neo4 Plat...

Hello there... I have a Maxtor 6Y160MOSTD 160GB DiamondMax Plus 9 SATA/150 on my MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum. I've had this problem before but it wasn't important enough to report until now.
I have the latest BIOS (1.B)
Now... I did have a dual boot - XP and Fedora Core... then I decided since Linux would only install the base text system, to get rid of it. I formatted using Windows disk manager. BUT the GRUB MBR was still on there. It resulted in an error. So I took my winXP disk and popped it in. I tried to first repair the MBR. I used the command BOOTCFG DEFAULT. that didn't work. So without thinking I decided to reinstall XP all together. When It got to the restart, the GRUB was still there, therefore didn't boot. Well what I ended up doing is trying the repair again. Used the command FIXBOOT - didin't work. I tried agian. Repair - found the command FIXMBR DUH! So I ran that and it recognized that the original MBR had been replaced. So I fixed the MBR and rebooted. XP wanted to install. So I let it. I came back some time later and found out it was stuck on "Initializing Devices...". At first I thought it was the graphics card. b/c linux had problems before probing the graphics card. I decided out of the blue to swap my 160GB HDD for a smaller PATA 2.1GB HDD and installed XP seemlessly. The obvious reason: XP couldn't detect the hard drive. The reason this is confusing is because I installed XP before on my HDD and no problems. I tried figeting with the chords, switching SATA slots. No luck. I really wanna know whats up with that. Help PLEASE.
Did I leave some info out?

Have you tried to download the Firmware for your HDD? Maybe you can refer to this site ==> https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?action=profile;u=77029

K8N Neo4 platinum edition v1 (bios W7125NMS V1.6 062305) -- after POST stucked

hi i'm runningan athlon 3000+ in K8N Neo4 platinum edition v1 (bios W7125NMS V1.6 062305) and i have a very like problem:
today i tried to install freebsd(install started fine, nothing went wrong, i repartioned my hdd and the installer started),
for some reason i had to abort the installation process. since then i can not boot in from any device(cd,usb the hdd is in a
half way to bsd install state so it's not an option atm).
the post screen comes up and i can interact with it in a way(i can press tab and it drops me
to the detailed post screen,ctrl-alt-del also works i can restart with it), but i neither can enter to the BIOS setup /DEL/ nor the boot menu /F11/.
i've tried reseting bios settings by flushing cmos(removed the battery,pressed SW1. something must happened because the post now checks for sata devices
and the graphical screen/that one u can bypass by pressing TAB/ was not presented before).
it also detects my hdd and my cd-rom too. but still nothing happens after the POST.
others said updating my bios would help. but still there is no option to boot from.
if i am doing wrong something please let me know,
thank you for your help
Andrew

the solution:
disable ide1/slave when the broken hdd is not connected and bios accessible; poweroff; reconnect the broken hdd to the PC;poweron; boot from a linux livecd; gpart/fdisk/something to repair the broken hdd;be happy life is nice
the trick was that bios and post is not messing with the broken hdd(while it was blocked in the bios)
so i could boot with a live cd when my hdd was connected to the PC.
since linux trixx out bios i was abel to interact with the post_killer_hdd (even it was blocked in the bios).
i hope somebody will be able to use it one day if something is not understandable drop me a PM.
problem solved im installing the os to the hdd,topic is SOLVED.
maybe the other guy who has some similar issues with his config/hdd could use this post too.
regards,
/\ndrew

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