K8N Neo4-f v1.0 bios issues

Hello. I haven't updated my sig yet so here is what you need to know about my system:
MSI 8KN Neo4-f v1.0 MS-7125 board.
AMD X2 4200+ toledo w/ E6 stepping
2x 1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC4000
EVGA GeForce 8800gts 320mb
3 Deskstar sata hdd (NO raid)
liteon dvdrom and dvdr/rw pata
ocz GameXstream 600 PSU
Ok so here is my problem. first of all, I have bios 1.B. I can't set the ram to 1T and make it boot into windows. Usually it hangs at the load screen or it tries to detect a raid array that is not there. I have tried all kinds of settings for the timings at the 1t command rate and nothing works. At 2T I can set the timings way low and oc the bejesus out of the memory and it runs fine.
now I have been told 2 things. First I was told that this board does not support 1Gb mem sticks at 1T timing. Then I was also told that this bios has problems with 1T and E6 steppings CPU's so I should update to 1.D.
So I flashed to 1.D and the post was so ridiculously slow. It would take a couple minutes to detect the ide devices on post whereas it used to take 10 seconds with 1.B. So i flshed to 1.C. same problem. So I flashed back to 1.B and now it posts quick again.
Why does 1.C and 1.D post so slow while detecting ide devices and why can't I make this mem run at 1T. Also, I saw a modded 1.D bios on these forums. What exactly would that do fo me? Thanks

Sorry for the delay but for the memory timing you didn't mention what voltage you were using for the Ballistix memory - should be 2.2V IIRC. Also check the CAS Latency - I've seen a couple of MSI mbrds which read the SPD wrongly: instead of CL=3 they set it to 2.5 and the system was unstable, so I had to set it manually.
As for the boot delay with 1.D BIOS, I've seen that too in a system with an older AFreey DVD-ROM - I didn't have time to pursue things fully and swapping the DVD-ROM for a more recent Toshiba model fixed it. You might look for a firmware update for the Liteons. The funny thing is that the Afreey had been working for months slaved to an old DMA2 hard drive as master on the channel; when I replaced the old drive with a SATA HDD and put the Afreey as master on the IDE, it made the system crawl all the way through startup. Seems like UDMA2 was just not working right and I tried several different IDE cables.

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Quote from: flobelix on 30-January-07, 21:44:59
??? I'm kind of confused... As I said I'm using the same board with the same bios and I can see and change 1T/2T.
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Took the cpu off and cleaned it, upgraded the video card started the computer and no post. Led's 1,3,4, green 2 red. Took cpu out and checked it no bent pins, checked all connections. Sometimes when it boots it will have 4 green led's but no video. Tried another vid card same thing. Tried booting and holding the insert, cont+home, F1, delete keys. Get power to the fans and hear the HDD sometimes.
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MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Ultra nForce4 bios v1.6
Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego Core
Geil value ram
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Edit: Have cleared the cmos many times. If I boot holding the insert key down for a while I get 1,3,4, leds red 2 green, if I then push F1 they all turn green but still no vid.

No posts to your post either LOL
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