K8n neo4-f v3.0 pci lock

hi,
ive never managed to overclock this board at all since the day i got it,the pci lock doesnt seem to function at all,my question is would there be any way to get it to work ? bios update/roll back(bios 5.3 atm) ? there must be something i can do,theres plenty of folk with this same board who have good overclocks going,please help or its bin the board time,my athlon64 4000+ is getting a little dated so id like to give it a kick before i take the plunge and upgrade

good news to report
it seems like it was the kingston ram causing the ineffective pci lock on the msi k8n neo4-f i have,ive swapped it for 4x512 corsair xms and now have my 4000+ at 2750mhz im well pleased,i thought i was going to have to ditch this board,it can go higher but ive only a zalman cooler so i didnt want to take it up too far on just air,settings are:
cpu clock-2750mhz
fsb-250mhz
cpu multi-11x
htt-x4 1000mhz
ram-196.4mhz
ram timings-2.5.3.3.7
temps- idle 32 degrees,max load 45 degrees
i did have it at 2880mhz with no extra voltage but wouldnt boot to windows,i dare say if id pumped some more juice thru it i couldve got it stable but didnt want to risk it with only the zalman for cooling.

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Does MSI K8N NEO 4 have (agp)/PCI lock?

hi. yeah, Does MSI K8N NEO 4 have (agp)/PCI lock? I saw only the PCI-E lock (100MHz)

Quote from: gpalmer on 03-November-05, 21:18:07
the neo4 does not have AGP.
No, I know it. "( )"
Quote from: Richard on 03-November-05, 21:29:27
Paradis,
The PCI, IDE and SATA are locked.
Take Care,
Richard
okej, thank you. I feel me safe now :D

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ATI ALL-in-Wonder 2006 PCI-E
1 sata wd 200gig (boot drive)
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I had posted before on this subject, but I'm thinking I was off on the wrong tangent.
To recap. In the middle of the boot process (Windows XP banner displaying) video went dark and bios "no video detected" alarm went off. After this I could occasionally get the machine to start, usually after a reset. Sometimes it would work fine, other times I would get lockups. I thought the video card was bad. Bought a new, identical card. Same problem. I had recently flashed the bios (maybe a week before), I thought that may be to blame. I rolled back to the previous version, made no difference.
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The bios alarm is the one long two short, my board manual says that means video card not initialized. The pci-e card was in tight and locked down. Like I said above, I tried a brand new version of the same card, same problem. Since the all-in-wonder 2006 worked for a year and a half without problems, I'm thinking it is not a compatability problem.
I'm now running with a pci card and the system is it's old solid self again. If I look in device manager all the pci-e devices report they are functioning normally. Anybody know of a pci-e bus torture test ??
I've been doing a lot of reading on power supplies. Seems like Antec does not have the quality it used to. Again, I hate to drop the cash for a new ps if that is not the problem. A good one is not cheap. If I am sure the ps is the problem I will go for it. I'm still not sure it isn't a failure on the board itself.

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Thanks for the post, but I tried changing that setting, &, alas, did not work. On the suggestion of another forum, I went to the Nvidia site, downloaded what was labeled the latest Nvidia drivers for this board & tried to install them. That corrupted something or other, said windows could not start because of corrupted sys32 pci drivers. Had to start in "last known good" setting. Went to the download site for MSI motherboard, downloaded & installed the newest drivers from there, however. Have done a couple of system restores to try & get rid of some of the changed settings by all this stuff. Now after I try to resume from standby it sometimes resumes, fans etc. start up, then it shuts down, or goes into a restart. Been at this for a few days, not sure if I ought to just chuck the whole thing, buy a pci-express card, reformat & reinstall the OS. Either that, or just shut it down when I'm off for a while. Just kind of hate to buy another video card just to use this board.

K8N Neo4 Platinum random lock-ups and BSOD

I built a new PC about 3 months ago and from day 1 it has always locked up / frozen at random intervals. Sometimes it also BSOD's with a Machine Check Exception. Seems to lock up / freeze more often when have multifple windows open eg. Multiple IE running but really is random. I have replaced the Mobo and Ram but keep having the same issues. Have tried a clean install but no luck either. Did a clean install on an old IDE HDD and seemed fine but it did not have all of the software that I run on the SATA drive. Thinking the SATA drive may be the issue? Please Help!!!
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Quote from: davePC on 09-August-06, 09:06:44
Did a clean install on an old IDE HDD and seemed fine but it did not have all of the software that I run on the SATA drive. Thinking the SATA drive may be the issue? Please Help!!!
Seemed fine?
There isn't really be any difference between an IDE drive and a sata.
Except that the sata drive needs some drivers as your installing the os.
Check your ram timings in bios but likely it's your psu.
Which components are on which rail?
The ones that use the +12v are your cpu,cdrom,dvdrom and graphics card.
Try disconnecting both roms and see if it improves things?

MSI K8N-Neo4 and PCI-E x4

Hi Folks,
I've got an MSI K8N-Neo4 (MS-7125) motherboard that I'm looking to add a RAID card to. It's got a PCI-Express x4 slot on the board that I'd like to utilize. However, I've seen some conflicting information regarding it's use. In the manual on page 2-26 it states "PCI Express x4 Slot (Support PCI-E x2 device Only)". However when I look at the webpage for the board at http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8N_Neo4_Platinum& it makes no mention of this limitation.
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Quote from: Bas on 09-July-06, 07:25:26
Those are not different then from what's on the motherboard
Want a real one? Look at this: >>Real one!<<
That's real raid controller.....
What you mention is just the same as the onboard stuff.
As for the Linux raid stuff, I presume you mean the Linux Software raid, no those controllers aren't that good, but the High-points aren't that good either.
Heck, they don't even have their own CPU or memory.....the one I showed you has and is WAY faster
(PS. sample given is PCIx, won't fit your board, but that's a raid controller!)
Okay, that still doesn't answer my question about the PCI-E slot. You make a decent point, but I was more using the Highpoints as an example and because they came up in several searches of the forum. For the sake of getting a real answer, lets assume it is a real RAID card, such as the PROMISE SuperTrak EX8350 RTL, which according to the Serial ATA on Linux page is a real raid card and all that. Will it work in the PCI-E x4 slot on the MSI K8N-Neo4 Platinum or not?
All I really want to know is if the slot can actually run a PCI-E x4 card or not. The documentation contradicts itself.

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Dear Sirs,
I've just bought a MSI NX6600 TD GT 128MB PCI-E and
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can't work with MSI original drivers, MSI old
drivers or Nvidia drivers. The system reboots.
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Duplicate Post.
Look for all replies here:
MSI 6600GT PCI-E or MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum ?
Take Care,
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MSI 6600GT PCI-E or MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum ?

Dear Sirs,
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I Think that one of these is defective bacause WinXP can't work with MSI original drivers, MSI old drivers or Nvidia drivers. The system reboots.
I think that i've tried almost everything and this card only works badly with VesaSave driver (Generic Windows driver).
Could a defective video card works ?
Is it possible that the problem is the Motherboard ?
Any idea ?
Help me please,
Thank you very much,
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A64 3500+ Winchester
Original Cooler
DDR PC4000 GEIL 1GB ULTRA DUAL
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Quote from: macprmgr on 19-March-06, 11:23:16
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Can you tell us what other parts you have
Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.
I know you want the problem fixed but its hard to help if we don't know the basic's. Check the rules you will find they are a good place to start and for you to help yourself as well as others have an idea to help you

PCI locks using neo4 Ultra

I would like to know in the BIOS where I turn on and verify the PCI locks? Also which SATA ports are locked and does that need to be turned on as well?
Thanks

Quote from: Hannibal on 12-February-05, 04:28:44
The problem lies in sata 1&2. by using 3&4 many people have resolved many conflicts . The PCI bus is locked on both sides. There is a known issue with 1&2.
In my experince things have changed with the Neo4. I expected 3 and 4 to be locked and got textrure file errrors using 3dmark2001se, a sure sign of an overclocked disk. Using 1 and 2 now and had no such problem.

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Fro.

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I have a big problem with this motherboard and Video card.
I have set CPU clock at 250mhz (because I have DDR500), now the PCE clock is 100mhz. Is synchronous with CPU clock? If yes is there a moltiplicator to change the PCIE clock(my videocard is 400mhz), because It provokes artefacts in the Post , in the bios,and continues shutdown of the system( first appears the windows “VPU RECOVER”, than shutdown) and the visualization is full of artefacts.
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The question is: Pcie clock is asynchronous or synchronous with CPU Clock, when is disable spectrum in cellmenu?

Newly Built System. MSI K8N Neo4/SLI Plat with AMD X2 3800 Crashing in all Games

I just built this system yesterday..
MSI K8N Neo4/SLI Plat with AMD X2 3800 latest BIOS 3.7 amd MB drivers
I have a Albatron Geforece 7800 GT PCI-E 256Mgs with the latest Drivers. 78
WINXP SP2 latest stuff.
DirectX 9.0C
I have 2 512 DDR3500 Memory Sticks.
SATA 160 Hard Drive
DVD 8X NEC Burner
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I ran Memtest and everything passed fine.
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DaaDoctor

Welcome to the forum DaaDoctor
If you creat a signature (in profile) it will save you having to type your spec's out each time or us looking for it. Use mine as a template.
What PSU are you using ? Can you list the power output ? (writen on side of psu)
Going from your specs you listed your graphics card is very hungery on power so I would suggest your psu isn't up to the job under load.
Post the spec and we will know for sure.

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Hi, got my K8N Neo4 AMD 64 bit system built and having strange probelms.
My System:
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Geil 1GB PC3200 400MHz 2-64x64 Dual Channel Ultra Series DDR Memory 184Pin
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BUFFALO WIRELESS USB ADPT
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My problems, I get Random Lock Ups, USB Devices not being recognized.
When Pluging in a PQI iStick Pen Drive, I might get that the USB device is not Recognized, or the Computer might just Lock UP.
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Thanks
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PS. I am not Over clocking at all. No Desire to overclock, computer is fast enough for me. I don't play games except for FS 2004

Ok, I will try posting this again. (Computer rebooted while typing it)
I moved my PCI Modem to the Orange PCI slot and most of my lockups are gone. Not all, just don't seem to be as many.
Still have the USB problems. ON boot up, usb works great. after awhile, usb seems to disappear. When any thing is plugged in, just get that the device could not be recognized and any USB devices that are plugged in no Longer work.
So, could it be my PSU? (see first post for specs) or M/B crapping out?
When My computer restarted from a Random Reboot, Windows said it recovered from a Serious Error.
When ever I have had to Power off the system and reboot from a lockup, I have not gotten that error. So, really not sure if it would be the PSU or not.
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