K8N NEO4 FI (v. 1.0) no video, no LAN, no POST

It happened randomly the other day -- was playing an online game when I got a brief blue screen and my PC shut off. Now when I power up I get no video and no LAN activity and of course no POST. Everything spins up fine, all fans, HD, video card fan, NB fan ... swapped out video card and mem sticks with no luck. I've cleared CMOS numerous times and sometimes I can get into BIOS and make changes but eventually it locks up and I have to shut it down.
I haven't swapped out the PSU (Antec Eathwatts 500) yet because everything powers on just fine and the PSU is only a couple months old.
Thoughts/suggestions anyone? Specs:
K8N NEO4 FI (v. 1.0) 1.D BIOS
x2 4200+
2GB Kingston HyperX (2x1GB) PC3200 in slots 3/4
GeForce 9600 GSO
Antec Earthwatts 500w PSU
WD Caviar 750GB
TIA! :(

Quote from: Svet on 29-July-09, 10:44:40
What was other PSU that you've tried?
Re-seat the CPU as well and apply new thermal paste{not too much}
Use 1st two DIMM's close to CPU socket.
Thanks Svet, I'll try re-seating the CPU. I saw a link on how to separate HSF from CPU without sticking somewhere on the site, do you have the link please?
I used an Antec 450w Truepower to troubleshoot. When I removed my Audigy 2 ZS PCI sound card and a stick of RAM I was able to boot into BIOS, FWIW.
Thanks again

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-abs

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Ohh..
I just remembered this one :
Shut down PC and remove AC from the PSU .
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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=91475.msg658537;topicseen#msg658537

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Quote from: jose_ramos on 13-May-07, 02:56:39
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