K8N Neo4-FI Windows install problems (S-Ata problems)

Hi
Last week I "upgraded" my computer from Nforce3 (Radeon 9800 Pro) to Nforce4 (Radeon X800GTO) and when I did setup everything the platinum screen just hang but after removing all usb devices and tried to plug one after one in to the computer I located the problem the motherboard didnt like my keyboard so I changed it and I was able to boot, but then another problem came, I cant install windows XP at all, after booting with the cd this white text "checking something computer configuration" and then everything gets black and nothing more happens,
I tried to change memory from (Corsair 3200XL to some other) and still the same problem, did also try to unplug the hdd, floppy and also tried to change the Graphic card from X800GTO to X600 but still no luck.
What can be wrong, I managed to install windows 2003 sever but I really hate when something doesnt work, doesnt feel ok
EDIT:
I have a 3200+ Winchester cpu, 1024 Corsair 3200XL mem and Tagan 430W psu and Connect3d X800 GTO Graphic
EDIT2:
I have now located the problem to my S-ata discs, when I unplug them the install starts but when I plug them back I get the same problem, Im not running raid

I suggested what I did because the black screen on Windows install is a common problem when RAID is set to enabled on a NON-RAID array.
One other possibility: ke84 are you installing Windows XP? - and what version is it? If it is pre-SP1 it may have trouble understanding what SATA is. If it is SP1 or later is should work fine without installation of any extra drivers, so long as RAID is set to DISABLED.
I would still try installng on a single disk, connected to SATA-1 on the mainboard, before considering the above problem. If one disk doesn't work, try the other.

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K8N NEO4 Platinum - SATA2 install help.

Hello, First time posting on the forum.
I am new on installing SATA hd. I am having a particular problem with my neo4 mobo when installing the new SEAGATE 320gb. For some reasons the bios recognize the sata (which is at SATA 1, tried from SATA 1-4 but still the same), but when I go to see the HDD at the BIOS it shows the SEAGATE as an IDE THIRD DEVICE. At the beginning I was concerned about this but then I checked that the BIOS was getting the 320gb itself so I went ahead and install WINDOWS XP on the SATA. when I am on the install process I found out that when wanting to make partitions it shows that the maximum space to do partitions is 131gb (less than the half of the drive) so I just stopped there.
some suggestions I have received so far:
1- Change the BIOS version
2- do an F6 to install SATA drives when installing Windows.
Not done any of them yet, want to see if you guys have this problem before.
Thank you in advance for all your help.
Peace...

And the same problem is what exactly ....... ?
(thought your problem was that you couldn't have the disk run in sata II mode ..)
As for recognized by win as 130GB during install you need an updated XP install disk with LBA 48bit support.
This means an XP install CD with SP1 or SP2 .
If you don't have this you need to remaster your XP cd .
Autostreamer from neowin is the most easy one to use . Found here : http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=223562
Just need your gold xp cd + autostreamer and a download of full XP SP2 for it professionals found here : http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en
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MOVED: K8N Neo4-F - i think i have a problem

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K8N Neo4-F - i think i have a problem

Quote from: lparker on 03-December-05, 10:40:24
The fan will spin at a certian speed depending on the temperature of the chip. Example: at 20degrees the fan spins at 2000rpm and at 30 degrees the fan will spin at 4000rpm. This is normal.
k thx i appreicate the help that took a load off my back. at first i thought id have to go get another MOBO.

K8N Neo4-F - i think i have a problem

sorry for my lack of knowledge but the little fan on my mobo will randomly speed up and slow down kinda like it gets random boosts of power. then sometimes when im playing a game it will remain smooth. is there a problem? i dont know much about hardware. plz help.

Quote from: lparker on 03-December-05, 10:40:24
The fan will spin at a certian speed depending on the temperature of the chip. Example: at 20degrees the fan spins at 2000rpm and at 30 degrees the fan will spin at 4000rpm. This is normal.
k thx i appreicate the help that took a load off my back. at first i thought id have to go get another MOBO.

K8N neo4 platinum /sli & msi 6800gt video card problem.... urgent help!!!!

I simply can't get the video card to work in the firts PCI-E port, however if the card is in the second port it works fine without the D-bracket locking the PC. Does someone know why this happened?, is the motherboard damaged?, or is there a solution to this problem?
Note: D-bracket is indicating a Memory detection test problem, but as
I said if the Video card is in the second PCI-e port the PC works fine
Plase help does someone knows why this is happening?

Could you add the list of your components to your signature (e.g. power suppy, memory, etc).
I am assuming that the SLI connector card is firmly in place and set for non-SLI operation and
that the video card only works when inserted into the slot that what would normally be used
by a second SLI video card. Is this correct?
Have you tried resetting your BIOS?

Maxtor 6Y160MOSTD 160GB DiamondMax Plus 9 SATA/150 -- on -- MSI K8N Neo4 Plat...

Hello there... I have a Maxtor 6Y160MOSTD 160GB DiamondMax Plus 9 SATA/150 on my MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum. I've had this problem before but it wasn't important enough to report until now.
I have the latest BIOS (1.B)
Now... I did have a dual boot - XP and Fedora Core... then I decided since Linux would only install the base text system, to get rid of it. I formatted using Windows disk manager. BUT the GRUB MBR was still on there. It resulted in an error. So I took my winXP disk and popped it in. I tried to first repair the MBR. I used the command BOOTCFG DEFAULT. that didn't work. So without thinking I decided to reinstall XP all together. When It got to the restart, the GRUB was still there, therefore didn't boot. Well what I ended up doing is trying the repair again. Used the command FIXBOOT - didin't work. I tried agian. Repair - found the command FIXMBR DUH! So I ran that and it recognized that the original MBR had been replaced. So I fixed the MBR and rebooted. XP wanted to install. So I let it. I came back some time later and found out it was stuck on "Initializing Devices...". At first I thought it was the graphics card. b/c linux had problems before probing the graphics card. I decided out of the blue to swap my 160GB HDD for a smaller PATA 2.1GB HDD and installed XP seemlessly. The obvious reason: XP couldn't detect the hard drive. The reason this is confusing is because I installed XP before on my HDD and no problems. I tried figeting with the chords, switching SATA slots. No luck. I really wanna know whats up with that. Help PLEASE.
Did I leave some info out?

Have you tried to download the Firmware for your HDD? Maybe you can refer to this site ==> https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?action=profile;u=77029

Windows XP hangs on 'spash' screen after video drivers installed on K8N Neo4-F

Hiya folks - got a MASSIVE post for everyone here... Sorry but I think it's necessary... Here goes:
I just upgraded everything in my computer except for the HDD. New case, power supply, etc. I started by copying all important data from my original HDD to a portable USB 2.0 drive. My data is safe, and intact on that drive. So... I formated and repartitioned the oroginal hard drive (1 partition), assembled the system and everything runs perfectly. The problems come later....
The Windows installation is insanely fast and smooth... and the system boots into Windows with no problems after installation is complete. I didn't even need to install the nVidia RAID drivers because windows detects my single SATA drive fine. The First thing I do upon seeing the desktop for the first time is: Install nVidia chipset drivers, then AMD Athlon 64 driver (both latest releases). I then restart and the system boots fine. After Windows starts, I'm asked for display drivers. I click 'cancel', as specified in my ATI installation guide, open up the ATI CD and install the drivers via the ATI autorun setup. At this point, there are no further drivers for me to install and NONE of them have an "!" near them. So I figure everything is A-Okay and restart... BAM!! - Windows hangs on the splash screen. The blue bar moves for about 10 minutes, then stops for 2, then moves for 2, and so on... This will go on FOREVER.
So... I boot into safe mode and uninstall the ATI software/drivers with the help of some other third-party programs, schedule a disk check with CHKDSK and reboot. I startup in Directory Services mode to allow the disk check to complete. No errors and the system restarts on its own (supposed to). Now the system boots in normal mode again, but no video drivers installed. So I download the latest drivers from the ATI website and install them. I restart, and WHAM! -- same problem. At this point I'm thinking "bad video card" so again I go into safe mode, remove drivers, schedule disk check, etc.... restart in Dir Serv mode... "one or more errors found" this time... but that's okay.
After the auto-restart I shut down the computer and unplugged EVERYTHING but the video card, HDD and one stick of RAM... then reset the CMOS, checked battery and PSU outputs (all fine) I then went back into the BIOS to ensure everything is set to 'as safe as possible' and restarted. Again I tried the latest drivers, and again the same problem after restart. So I then booted into safe mode, but left the drivers intactthis time. I scheduled another disk check and restarted again in Dir Serv mode. After system restart I shut the computer down and switched to my other RAM stick and booted... same problem. now I'm DEFINITELY thinking "bad video card" so I plug everything back in the way it's supposed to be, reset CMOS and restart with the Windows CD the drive. I again format the HDD, etc... and install Windows.
Now, with another fresh Windows install, having read multiple tech articles, I thought this could be an issue with the NV SW IDE drivers, so I installed the driver pack minus that driver. I restarted and the system boots fine. Next, I again tried installing the latest ATI drivers, restart, and SLAMMO! -- again the system hangs on the splash screen. So, rather than waste my time with disk checks, etc... I did ANOTHER clean OS install. This time I decided to try installing video drivers BEFORE the chipset drivers... no such luck. I restart and Windows hangs in the usual spot.
NOW, I'm REALLY getting upset and can hardly contain my fists of rage that crave to desimate the computer case and all its internal componets. Time to RMA the video card. I exchange the card for the same type, thinking this will solve my problem, I drive happily home with the new card. Wouldn't you guess it... SAME PROBLEM, on ANOTHER clean OS install!!! Now I'm thinking "bad mobo"? - I don't know because it boots fine and runs fast without video drivers, but it seems to be directly linked to the video card. So... I figure "okay maybe these nForce boards don't like ATI cards"... so I return the Radeon X700 and exchange for a BFG GeForce 6600GT. Yep, you guessed it, STILL the SAME problem!!!
I 'm pretty-sure the problem has got to be with the mobo but I can't be too sure. It doesn't seem too likely because the system boots and runs fine with basic Windows VGA drivers. Also, if I were to try and boot to VGA mode after encountering this problem, that would not work at all either, in any situation, other than after removing the ATI drivers or installing windows without them initially. Right NOW, as we speak, I tried uninstalling the nvidia drivers/software via safe mode, I ran disk check, etc... but the system will no longer boot in normal mode or VGA mode even without the nvidia drivers installed. I've formated the hard drive and am ready to reinstall again if I can find a solution to this problem.
If ANYONE can help me it would be EXTREMELY APPRECIATED! I'm not a dummy when it comes to computers but this is pure MADNESS!!! I couldn't even BEGIN to fit everything else I tried into this forum. I had to sum-it-up, but I will gladly answer any questions from you 'brains' out there and will monitor this site daily. I won't ask the question and disappear never to tell of the solution I may or may not find...
Thanks in advance,
Eilios

Quote from: EdwinGF on 26-October-05, 16:01:40
Hi,
If you only have one Serial ATA Hard Disk, then you don't need the nVidia RAID Driver. This driver is only needed when you set up a Serial ATA RAID Array or a Parallel ATA RAID array. For this you must have two identical hard drives in your PC, for RAID 0 and RAID 1 arrays.
nVidia SATA RAID drivers supports RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 0+1, and JBOD. When you install at least two Hard Drives, prepare your mainboard to use SATA RAID and
set up the RAID Array style you want to use.
Then you will need to install the nVidia RAID driver, to allow Windows to "See" and use the drives correctly. This is done by pressing the F6 Key, inserting the nVidia RAID Driver disk , and "telling Windows" where to find the driver it needs, at the very beginig of the Windows XP setup process.
However if you install a RAID driver with just one SATA Hard drive, or two SATA hard drives, (this last scenario not set to be used in an array, but as two different use drives, lets say one for OS and one for MP3 Storage), then Windows begins to load, it will load the RAID driver, but since there's no RAID Array, Windows will keep "looking" for an inexistant RAID Array, and if there's no such RAID array, this will take forever.
That's why installing nVidia RAID Driver may hang your system (which as you saw is not really hung), at the Windows Splash Screen, it is just trying to find something that doesn't exitst.
NOTE: nVidia RAID Controller, supports RAID Arrays into both, the Serial ATA channels and the Parallel ATA (IDE) channels too. But for both options, you always need to have at least two identical hard drives installed to build up and use a RAID Array, which can only be seen by the nVidia RAID Driver, for both Serial ATA hard drives and Parallel ATA (IDE) hard drives.
NOTE: JBOD stands for Just a Bunch Of Disks = In this scenario, you can combine hard drives of different brands and/or capacities into one big drive that will be seen by Windows as one drive only.
NOTE: Even if you don't have any RAID array, you must install the nVidia nForce 4 Drivers. You can just leave the nVIDIA SATA Driver check box empty.
Hope this helps
I did not have any RAID or SATA drive in my system, actually these were disabled in BIOS. I had the similar experience though. BTW, why NF4 chiset driver is very important to install if Windows XP drivers can get the job done? Look at my link in the previous post.

MSI K8N Neo4-F Problems

I'm on my very first build and I'm running into problems. When I power up, all the fans spin up properly and the D-Link LED's go through the usual settings but it gets stuck on the combination that the manual translates into "Initializing Floppy Drive Controller - This will initializing Floppy Drive and controller." The D-Link LED's just hang there and I've left it alone for a couple minutes and it still wouldn't budge. On the screen, sometimes I can see the POST message and other times I see nothing at all on the screen from the various times I've restarted the computer. Any idea why it's hanging on this certain combination and not booting me to the BIOS setup screens? These are my system specs...thanks:
MSI K8N Neo4-F Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice
ZALMAN CNPS7000B-AlCu Heatsink
Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-380 ATX12V 380W Power Supply
OCZ Performance Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive
Leadtek 6600GT

I take that into consideration! But as hardware goes, no two are exactly the same. But let's not focus on that, as I believe it could be problems elsewhere.
Posted by: Talannon
Hi!
First, the problem is I made this computer for a friend and when I boot the computer it always freeze at startup. I hear the normal bip when you start the computer then I see the first screen where it says to hit del to enter SETUP but it freeze there. I can't even go into BIOS. I have 2x512 MB in dual channel and when I remove one I can usually be able to go into the bios, then once there I check if everything is there by default ( I already reset cmos ) and it looks good then I reboot and it freeze again. I really don't know what to do...
But I will tell you the whole story. First I get the computer and at first boot I get no video signal. I see that I forgot to put the spacer between MoBo and the case. Then I fix that, comp boot I go into bios. I made another error by setting the FSB speed at 400 mhz because I read that it was going at 400 (I forgot that it was 200 x 2) so I reboot and I get nothing. I reset the cmos by pressing the button then i can get into bios.
From there I changed the boot order and I make it so MSI doesn't show his logo when you boot but you get the POST instead. I exit and save then I start getting that problem... Since then I am not able to go into BIOS unless I play with the memory module. Another thing is when I can't get into BIOS I watch the 4 LEDs on the USB thing you add to the MoBo (definition here http://www.msicomputer.com/support/sup_tshoot.asp#1_3 scroll down a bit). When I can't get into BIOS I get a combination (1 and 3 red) saying "testing base and Extended Memory, Testing base memory from 240k to 640K and extended memory above 1MB using various patterns" and when I changed the memory and I get into the bios (2 red) I get " Initializing Floppy Drive Controller, This will initialize Floppy Drive and controller". I got that from the book that came with the board.
The comp is:
MSI K8N Neo4-F
Athlon 64 3200+
MSI NX6600 TD 256 FX6600 PCI-E
Antec SLK1650 MINI TOWER CASE 350W
Kingston 1024 MB DDR400 Dual KVR
Maxtor 120Gb S-ATA
If anyone can help I would appreciate it! Thank you!
Posted by: Talannon
I will add that I tested the ram on another computer and it works fine. Also, when I only have 1 module of ram installed he start to detect the ide drive and sata HD but when It get to the floppy it fail. From there I can go in the bios but when I restart he won't even start detecting stuff he will only freeze after he wrote the memory testing line and then I can't do nothing... or I can hit continue and it even got started with the windows xp install but it crashed, it didn't take long. Reboot and crash at verifying DMI pool data or something like that after I hit continue again after detect floppy fail.
I tried resetting the cmos then reboot and it said that my config was in overcloaking mode and to reset it on the bios... But there was nothing to change. Also tried to continue there but it stop at Verifying DMI Pool Data.
The bios installed by default is v 1.3, which is the only version there's not on the msi website... strange
Anyway I pretty much said all I could, hope someone could help but I have a feeling that the MoBo as problem...
Posted by: keymaker
hmm......try takin out all of thec computer parts out of the computer case and this time only reseat the following devices: case, motherboard, cpu, ram, and videocard.
also try replacing the floppy cable and see if the computer will be able to detect the floppy this time. good luck
Posted by: Talannon
It still freeze the same way with only cpu ram and video card on mobo...
Posted by: zach1288
Try leaving your battery out longer, Some CMOS batteries can take up to 8 hours to clear.
Posted by: linderman
Welcome to TSF:
two items for consideration
A) what is your power supply and specs / this is by FAR the most underated overlooked component that plays such a vital role / the generics PSU just plain cant cut the mustard / they rely on cheap price to lure sales not performance / it doesnt take much of a fluctuation in power to send the newer systems baulking.
B) download and run memtest86.com on your memory modules / sounds like you may have a trouble maker there. Test them one at a time first / then as a pair
please post back with your findings
regards
joe
Posted by: Talannon
It could still play a role if I go back in bios and the settings seem to be back at normal? (like the FSB at 200 instead of 400 mhz like I tried to change at first.
edit: Power supply is a 350W smart Power by Antec
Posted by: Tumbleweed36
Hi,
An Antec is a great power supply, but frankly, don't think a 350 of anything is big enough to handle what you have. Even an Antec, you probably would need a minimum of a 450 to 480 with a very strong amperage rating. Antec and Enermax is where good power supplies are made if the wattage is what you need. That is the first place I would look after the memory thing is checked.
Posted by: Talannon
So... I made the test with the ram with this computer and the ram seems to have no problem at all.
So I guess I should try with a better power supply? But even a 350W with only the motherboard, cpu/fan, ram and video card would still not be enough to run it? Because I still have problem while running only that... Before I go out and buy a good power supply I would like to make sure it could be the source of the problem.
BTW, thank you all for the help so far, I hope we can find the problem :(
Posted by: Tumbleweed36
Hi,
If you have a Best Buy nearby, go find a good power supply and if it is not the problem, take it back or return it. That way, it would not be an expensive venture that might not solve the problem. Just be careful how you deal with the packaging so you can return it if it does not help. That sounds like the best solution at this time.
Posted by: Talannon
Ok, one other I will add is I noticed a trend. If I start the computer I can usually go all the way and start windows installation but it will stop working right after I hit enter to actually start windows installation. If I reset it will always hang at the beginning and unable to even get into the BIOS...
If I put the ram in dual channel setting it won't even start on first startup. But if it's on single channel it will at least let me go to the bios and such (but never recognized the floppy). Dual channel take more juice to run?
With this in mind is it possible that the mobo and/or cpu still be the cause of the problem?
Anyway I think I will try to get a power supply of at least 450W to test it. Just for testing purpose, can I get any power supply even if it's not antec or enermax as long as it has high voltage? I can test it and if it's working I can always return it and go buy a real power supply from antec or enermax where there is one.
Posted by: ginger6
I dont think it is your power supply, the power supply you have should handle what you have got no problem, the problem will be your memory...... are the 2 memory sticks you have identical, ie: same manufacturer, same speed, same chips on the board..... to run in dual channel mode you need both sticks to be exactly identical otherwise you will have problems.
What brand is the memory, if it is a cheap brand then you may have compatibilty problems.
Have you run memtest86 when both sticks are inserted but not in dual channel mode?
Kevin
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Posted by: Tumbleweed36
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talannon
Ok, one other I will add is I noticed a trend. If I start the computer I can usually go all the way and start windows installation but it will stop working right after I hit enter to actually start windows installation. If I reset it will always hang at the beginning and unable to even get into the BIOS...
If I put the ram in dual channel setting it won't even start on first startup. But if it's on single channel it will at least let me go to the bios and such (but never recognized the floppy). Dual channel take more juice to run?
With this in mind is it possible that the mobo and/or cpu still be the cause of the problem?
Anyway I think I will try to get a power supply of at least 450W to test it. Just for testing purpose, can I get any power supply even if it's not antec or enermax as long as it has high voltage? I can test it and if it's working I can always return it and go buy a real power supply from antec or enermax where there is one.
Hi,
Before you go out and get another power supply, you need to make sure you have everything hooked up correctly.
Try flipping the floppy cable over and see if the BIOS recognizes it. That is a common mistake that all of us make from time to time. The red stripe (pin 1) goes toward the power plug on that one and it is opposite as a rule from the other ribbon cables, because the normal power plug on the hard drives have the power plug on the opposite side.
Second, tell us exactly what drives you have and how you have them hooked up...here is an example: Maxtor 30 gig IDE, set as master, on the end of the ribbon cable, and connected to IDE #1.
Third, the memory thing does seem to be an issue. Is the memory that you have listed on the QVL list in the motherboard manual?
For now, for testing purposes, just leave one stick of Ram in the board, and do follow the instructions in the manual about where that single stick should be. As an example, some boards require that when you use a single stick, that it is in Dimm2, Dimm3, or even Dimm4 instead of Dimm 1. That feature is new to some who don't regularly build, so please check that out before you go too far.
Let us know these things and we will try to get right back to you.
Posted by: Talannon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
Try flipping the floppy cable over and see if the BIOS recognizes it. That is a common mistake that all of us make from time to time. The red stripe (pin 1) goes toward the power plug on that one and it is opposite as a rule from the other ribbon cables, because the normal power plug on the hard drives have the power plug on the opposite side.
It will only go in the way I put it. Other thing is the power supply is an ATX with 20 pin. My manual says it should work but it also says that I could use a 24 pin SSI power supply but never use those. Again I am sure the power supply is in correctly cause I couldn't plug it any other way anyway.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
Second, tell us exactly what drives you have and how you have them hooked up...here is an example: Maxtor 30 gig IDE, set as master, on the end of the ribbon cable, and connected to IDE #1.
Maxtor 160 gig connected on sata 1 and there doesn't seem to ba master/slave option. Is it because it's SATA? It also seems to be detected as IDE THIRD Master on the first page.
LG DVD +/- RW in master on ide 1
Nothing on IDE 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
Third, the memory thing does seem to be an issue. Is the memory that you have listed on the QVL list in the motherboard manual?
My ram is PC3200 (DDR 400) it's supported from what I can read in the book
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
For now, for testing purposes, just leave one stick of Ram in the board, and do follow the instructions in the manual about where that single stick should be. As an example, some boards require that when you use a single stick, that it is in Dimm2, Dimm3, or even Dimm4 instead of Dimm 1. That feature is new to some who don't regularly build, so please check that out before you go too far.
Manual says it should be in a green slot first which is dimm 1 and 3. I put it in dimm 1 ans it should be fine. The setup like it is now, is in the combination list in the manual.
Posted by: Talannon
Quote:
Originally Posted by ginger6
I dont think it is your power supply, the power supply you have should handle what you have got no problem, the problem will be your memory...... are the 2 memory sticks you have identical, ie: same manufacturer, same speed, same chips on the board..... to run in dual channel mode you need both sticks to be exactly identical otherwise you will have problems.
What brand is the memory, if it is a cheap brand then you may have compatibilty problems.
Have you run memtest86 when both sticks are inserted but not in dual channel mode?
Kevin
I've only run test with the ram installed separately...
I also bought my ram as dual channel so I got a kit from Kingston KVR. So they should be identical to each other. Kingston is in the list of supported memory on MSI webpage of the motherboard...
Posted by: Talannon
So I tested the both ram at the same time but in single channel and no error.
One thing I notice is when I boot the ram is showed to go at 201 mhz instead of 200. Not sure if it says something...
Posted by: whodatknocking
Quote:
First I get the computer and at first boot I get no video signal. I see that I forgot to put the spacer between MoBo and the case.
this might be a real problem, we'll see
but first:
go into your bios and relaxe the timings on your ram, maybe 3-4-4-8
pump the voltage up on the ram a notch,to maybe 2.7 or 2.8
post back
Posted by: Talannon
humm I'm not sure what I should be looking for in the bios for that.
If I put Timing mode in manual instead of auto I can change a bunch of thing. I have no idea what you mean by 3-4-4-8... There is something in that called CAS# latency (Tcl) which is by default at 2.5 but could change it to 2.0 or 3.0. Is that the voltage?
Posted by: whodatknocking
try 3
no it isnt the voltage, the voltage would be in another spot in the bios
post back
Posted by: Talannon
changed nothing
I guess I am to a point to check the cpu on another socket 939 MoBo to see if it's the cpu or the MoBo the problem. With everything we tried I start to doubt it could be anything else.

Another K8N Neo4, 3800 x2 Problem

Before I start here are the specs
Amd x2 3800 with stock cooling
Msi K8n Neo4 Platinum
2 gb OCZ Dual Channel Platinum Link
eVGA 7800gt
Ultra Xconnect 500watt psu
2 160 gb Hitachi Deskstars in Raid 0 on nvidia raid controller
2 Ide Hard drives
Problem: Complete lockups in games.(no sound, no mouse, no keyboard, no screen activity) Mainly Counter-strike Source. Battlefield 2 sometimes freezes but it always happens with CS:S. I have tried installing the AMD x2 driver, Microsoft hotfix, the registry tweak to activate the MS hotfix, reverting to the 7x.xx forceware, trying multiple forceware beta drivers, setting affinity to 1 cpu, updated bios to 1.b, formating multiple times trying different forceware drivers etc. When I install Windows before I do anything I am doing a full windows update installing everything until there are no critical updates left and also installing the latest directX.
I ran prime95 on both cores for 7 hours and nothing was found. I ran memtest for 4 hours 30 minutes and nothing was found.
As of right now I should be recieving a Amd 64 3800+ (non x2) tomorrow from newegg and seeing if that works. Here are pictures of my bios settings.
Couldn't get the very last line so heres another pic that includes the Nf4 voltage.
edit: Forgot to add this
Memory Timings
Incase imageshack links die/slow heres an alternative http://urlx.org/dmservers.com/064b

I switched the ram to the 2 slots closest to the cpu and it then allowed me to change it to 1T. The ocz guy sent me a whole list of settings which I did but then when I saved and restarted it didn't post. So I tweaked them a bit and now it works fine. According to Everest I am now above the benchmarks compared to the other x2 3800+ on the nforce4 ultra.
1 thing I did notice was that every now and then I would lock up in the bios for some reason. As in I would be changing some settings and then I couldn't use the arrow keys to move at all. I wonder if its because I am using a wireless keyboard or maybe the usb to ps2 adapter is messing it up?
edit: heres screenshots. I know I am big on screenshots.

How do I get my NX6600GT-TD128E (PCIE) video card installed on a K8N NEO4-F Mb ?

I have received two new NX6600GT-TD128E (MS-8983) vdeo cards to install on my new K8N NEO4-F (MS-7125) motherboard flashed with BIOS ver 1.B.
First video card turned out to be bad. The replacement card allows view of bios screens and post screen, but when Windows XP (pro) starts up, the video goes blank and Windows XP locks up dead.
Any suggestions as to what I need to do to get the video card up and running?

Quote from: macprmgr on 19-March-06, 11:23:16
I have received two new NX6600GT-TD128E (MS-8983) vdeo cards to install on my new K8N NEO4-F (MS-7125) motherboard flashed with BIOS ver 1.B.
First video card turned out to be bad. The replacement card allows view of bios screens and post screen, but when Windows XP (pro) starts up, the video goes blank and Windows XP locks up dead.
Any suggestions as to what I need to do to get the video card up and running?
Can you tell us what other parts you have
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Vista Sound problems with K8N Neo4 SLI Platinum

I wonder if anyone have gotten the sound to work under 32-Bit Vista RC1 (build 5600) on the K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI (MS-7100)? Installation of the, by MSI, provided XP driver (Creative_audio_32-64bit.zip) seam to work, and the device looks installed in Device Manager, but still no sound... Also, the icon for volume control in the icon trey detects that there is no sound card installed.
Anyone with a similar problem? Any solutions? Suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
Br
Daniel

Thanks!
I did try one of these drivers before without success. Now when I tried the old driver from nov 2005 it worked!
Drivers are found here:
(http://se.europe.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp?MainCategory=1&nRegionFK=&nCountryFK=&nLanguageFK=&sOSName=Windows+Vista+32-bit&region=3&Product_Name=Live%21+24-bit&Product_ID=10315&modelnumber=&driverlang=1033&OS=26&drivertype=1&x=17&y=9)

Problem replacing K8n Neo4 Platinum

Hello everybody, this is my first post here, I am a new member from Italy.
I have this problem:
I own a K8n Neo4 Platinum and when I changed the VGA from Nvidia 6600 GT to 8600 GTS the Mobo doesn't post anymore.. The usb diagnostig bracket says it's a memory problem but when I've put my memory banks on a different PC, they work just fine.
I think the problem was caused by the little space that I had between the VGA and the chipset cooler (Zalman passive);when I installed the VGA I damaged the chipset. Taking a closer look at it I noticed that 1 edge is damaged. I also substituted the Power suplly but the result is always the same.
So I decided to replace the mobo but I don't want to reinstall windows. Finding my same mobo is impossible here in Europe. I only found the K8n Neo4-F.
My question is the following :
-Does this Mobo use the same drivers that were installed on my HD? (latest driver downloaded from Nvidia version 6.86)
-Will I have problems with Windows ?

Massi186,
Moan Guide
Richard

K8N Neo4 Platinum , problem durin istalling windwsXP

hi
ive just purchased MSI " K8N Neo4 Platinum " mother boared, with AMD64x2 3.8 GH , duel core.
the problem that after i install windows , and when its gonna strat for the first time, after the Windos XP logo apear, a blue error page apear, saying the windows has shutdown to prevent any damage
MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION
so i hope u can help me with this problem,
with all my thanx

ops am sorry
ok mine is
K8N Neo4 Platinum
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ - Dual-Core - Socket 939 CPU
512Mb Spectek PC-3200 / 400MHz
MSI ,GeForce 6200 with TurboCache, NX6200TC-TD128E
Western Digital 250GB Caviar SE SATA2 Hard Drive 7200 RPM 8MB
Sony cd writer
Genuis mouse
Aopen Keyboard
about the power supply not so sure, but it has 400W output.
OS, thats my problem trying to install WindownXP Pro,
after formating, and going smoothly through the setup
the windows XP logo apear, the error came..

NVIDIA Network Adapter problem (MSI K8N Neo4-F)

We have an MSI K8N Neo4- F motherboard. We are running Windowx XP SP2 (just upgraded to Service Pack 2). The computer will only boot in Normal mode if we disable or remove the NVIDIA Network Adapter driver. If we attempt to boot in Normal mode, it always ends with a Bad Pool Header problem (Blue Screen of Death). If we boot in Safe Mode with Networking, we can access the Internet. If we disable or remove the driver, then boot in normal mode, we can run in Normal mode but we do not have internet connection.
Does anyone know how we can use the onboard Network Adapter, and still boot in normal mode?
We have been using the latest drivers from MSI for this motherboard. Is there a different version that can be used? Is it possible that we have to update our BIOS for it to work correctly with SP2?
Thanks!

I think I may have misunderstood what you meant by a clean install. I probably should have asked what you meant before I answered my last post.
If you mean "did we just build the system by wiping the hard drive, installing XP SP1, then apply SP2", the answer is no. The system has been running Windows XP SP1 for several years without any problems, and we just wanted to upgrade to SP2 because there is some software that we want to load that requires SP2 to run. We have lots of software loaded on this machine that we use every day that we really want to avoid (short of time right now to tackle that project) rebuilding the entire operating system/machine because of the work involved in reloading all the software, etc.
Am I correct in assuming that we would have to wipe out the hard drive and start over if we did a re-install from a slipstreamed SP2 cd? If so, then we will probably just stay with SP1 for the time being if there is no other option to fix this Nvidia driver problem until we have more time to do a complete re-install and reload of the computer.
What about just installing a NIC in one of the PCI slots and use that instead of the onboard NetWork Adapter?
Thanks for all your help.

Stability Problems with a K8N Neo4 System

I just purchased the following system:
MSI K8N Neo4-F
Athlon 64 3200+ Venice
1GB Corsair 2.5 CAS PC3200 (400)
MSI Radeon x800 256MB
WD 7200 RPM 80G HD
Antec True430
NEC 2500 DVDR
I installed XP Pro and had just about all of my drivers installed when I began to see random lock ups where the mouse and everything would freeze without coming out. I would reboot, the same thing would happen. I reinstalled windows again. Same. I swapped the PSU, thinking it could be that, but no avail. I had the memory in the 2 green slots, which seemed wrong, so I switched it to green 1 and purple 1. I switched the voltage on the ram down to 2.5v. Nothing has seemed to help yet... I'm still getting these freezes, any suggestions?
Thanks,
John

I got the same problems. Suddenly there was no response to my keyboard and mouse.
I tested the memory with memtest86, but no problems showed up.
Quote from: johnnyamerika on 25-August-05, 11:45:24
I just purchased the following system:
MSI K8N Neo4-F
Athlon 64 3200+ Venice
1GB Corsair 2.5 CAS PC3200 (400)
MSI Radeon x800 256MB
WD 7200 RPM 80G HD
Antec True430
NEC 2500 DVDR
I installed XP Pro and had just about all of my drivers installed when I began to see random lock ups where the mouse and everything would freeze without coming out. I would reboot, the same thing would happen. I reinstalled windows again. Same. I swapped the PSU, thinking it could be that, but no avail. I had the memory in the 2 green slots, which seemed wrong, so I switched it to green 1 and purple 1. I switched the voltage on the ram down to 2.5v. Nothing has seemed to help yet... I'm still getting these freezes, any suggestions?
Thanks,
John

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