K8N Neo4 - gfx problems on boot

Hi.
# CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2GHz Socket 939, 512KB
# Motherboard: MSI K8N NEO4-F, nForce4, Socket-939, ATX Raid, Sound, 4xSATA, GbLAN, PCI-Ex16
# Memory: TwinMOS PC3200 DDR-DIMM 1024MB Dual Pack Kit w/two matched PC3200 DDR DIMMs
# Video card: XFX GeForce 6800GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI-Express
# Hard drive: NEC DVD recorder ND-3540A IDE Black OEM
# No other peripheral cards
# Operating system and version: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.080814-1236)
# Power Supply Unit: Fortron/Source Powersupply ATX 400W 120mm Fan, SATA, 24pin, +3.3, +5, ±12 V
On booting I get - randomly - artifacts OR blank screen OR one long+two short beeps OR booting normally.
Can't seem to find out the cause - any clues guys?
Thanks.

Have tested the VGA in another machine yet?

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I'm on my very first build and I'm running into problems. When I power up, all the fans spin up properly and the D-Link LED's go through the usual settings but it gets stuck on the combination that the manual translates into "Initializing Floppy Drive Controller - This will initializing Floppy Drive and controller." The D-Link LED's just hang there and I've left it alone for a couple minutes and it still wouldn't budge. On the screen, sometimes I can see the POST message and other times I see nothing at all on the screen from the various times I've restarted the computer. Any idea why it's hanging on this certain combination and not booting me to the BIOS setup screens? These are my system specs...thanks:
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Posted by: Talannon
Hi!
First, the problem is I made this computer for a friend and when I boot the computer it always freeze at startup. I hear the normal bip when you start the computer then I see the first screen where it says to hit del to enter SETUP but it freeze there. I can't even go into BIOS. I have 2x512 MB in dual channel and when I remove one I can usually be able to go into the bios, then once there I check if everything is there by default ( I already reset cmos ) and it looks good then I reboot and it freeze again. I really don't know what to do...
But I will tell you the whole story. First I get the computer and at first boot I get no video signal. I see that I forgot to put the spacer between MoBo and the case. Then I fix that, comp boot I go into bios. I made another error by setting the FSB speed at 400 mhz because I read that it was going at 400 (I forgot that it was 200 x 2) so I reboot and I get nothing. I reset the cmos by pressing the button then i can get into bios.
From there I changed the boot order and I make it so MSI doesn't show his logo when you boot but you get the POST instead. I exit and save then I start getting that problem... Since then I am not able to go into BIOS unless I play with the memory module. Another thing is when I can't get into BIOS I watch the 4 LEDs on the USB thing you add to the MoBo (definition here http://www.msicomputer.com/support/sup_tshoot.asp#1_3 scroll down a bit). When I can't get into BIOS I get a combination (1 and 3 red) saying "testing base and Extended Memory, Testing base memory from 240k to 640K and extended memory above 1MB using various patterns" and when I changed the memory and I get into the bios (2 red) I get " Initializing Floppy Drive Controller, This will initialize Floppy Drive and controller". I got that from the book that came with the board.
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MSI K8N Neo4-F
Athlon 64 3200+
MSI NX6600 TD 256 FX6600 PCI-E
Antec SLK1650 MINI TOWER CASE 350W
Kingston 1024 MB DDR400 Dual KVR
Maxtor 120Gb S-ATA
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Posted by: Talannon
I will add that I tested the ram on another computer and it works fine. Also, when I only have 1 module of ram installed he start to detect the ide drive and sata HD but when It get to the floppy it fail. From there I can go in the bios but when I restart he won't even start detecting stuff he will only freeze after he wrote the memory testing line and then I can't do nothing... or I can hit continue and it even got started with the windows xp install but it crashed, it didn't take long. Reboot and crash at verifying DMI pool data or something like that after I hit continue again after detect floppy fail.
I tried resetting the cmos then reboot and it said that my config was in overcloaking mode and to reset it on the bios... But there was nothing to change. Also tried to continue there but it stop at Verifying DMI Pool Data.
The bios installed by default is v 1.3, which is the only version there's not on the msi website... strange
Anyway I pretty much said all I could, hope someone could help but I have a feeling that the MoBo as problem...
Posted by: keymaker
hmm......try takin out all of thec computer parts out of the computer case and this time only reseat the following devices: case, motherboard, cpu, ram, and videocard.
also try replacing the floppy cable and see if the computer will be able to detect the floppy this time. good luck
Posted by: Talannon
It still freeze the same way with only cpu ram and video card on mobo...
Posted by: zach1288
Try leaving your battery out longer, Some CMOS batteries can take up to 8 hours to clear.
Posted by: linderman
Welcome to TSF:
two items for consideration
A) what is your power supply and specs / this is by FAR the most underated overlooked component that plays such a vital role / the generics PSU just plain cant cut the mustard / they rely on cheap price to lure sales not performance / it doesnt take much of a fluctuation in power to send the newer systems baulking.
B) download and run memtest86.com on your memory modules / sounds like you may have a trouble maker there. Test them one at a time first / then as a pair
please post back with your findings
regards
joe
Posted by: Talannon
It could still play a role if I go back in bios and the settings seem to be back at normal? (like the FSB at 200 instead of 400 mhz like I tried to change at first.
edit: Power supply is a 350W smart Power by Antec
Posted by: Tumbleweed36
Hi,
An Antec is a great power supply, but frankly, don't think a 350 of anything is big enough to handle what you have. Even an Antec, you probably would need a minimum of a 450 to 480 with a very strong amperage rating. Antec and Enermax is where good power supplies are made if the wattage is what you need. That is the first place I would look after the memory thing is checked.
Posted by: Talannon
So... I made the test with the ram with this computer and the ram seems to have no problem at all.
So I guess I should try with a better power supply? But even a 350W with only the motherboard, cpu/fan, ram and video card would still not be enough to run it? Because I still have problem while running only that... Before I go out and buy a good power supply I would like to make sure it could be the source of the problem.
BTW, thank you all for the help so far, I hope we can find the problem :(
Posted by: Tumbleweed36
Hi,
If you have a Best Buy nearby, go find a good power supply and if it is not the problem, take it back or return it. That way, it would not be an expensive venture that might not solve the problem. Just be careful how you deal with the packaging so you can return it if it does not help. That sounds like the best solution at this time.
Posted by: Talannon
Ok, one other I will add is I noticed a trend. If I start the computer I can usually go all the way and start windows installation but it will stop working right after I hit enter to actually start windows installation. If I reset it will always hang at the beginning and unable to even get into the BIOS...
If I put the ram in dual channel setting it won't even start on first startup. But if it's on single channel it will at least let me go to the bios and such (but never recognized the floppy). Dual channel take more juice to run?
With this in mind is it possible that the mobo and/or cpu still be the cause of the problem?
Anyway I think I will try to get a power supply of at least 450W to test it. Just for testing purpose, can I get any power supply even if it's not antec or enermax as long as it has high voltage? I can test it and if it's working I can always return it and go buy a real power supply from antec or enermax where there is one.
Posted by: ginger6
I dont think it is your power supply, the power supply you have should handle what you have got no problem, the problem will be your memory...... are the 2 memory sticks you have identical, ie: same manufacturer, same speed, same chips on the board..... to run in dual channel mode you need both sticks to be exactly identical otherwise you will have problems.
What brand is the memory, if it is a cheap brand then you may have compatibilty problems.
Have you run memtest86 when both sticks are inserted but not in dual channel mode?
Kevin
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Posted by: Tumbleweed36
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talannon
Ok, one other I will add is I noticed a trend. If I start the computer I can usually go all the way and start windows installation but it will stop working right after I hit enter to actually start windows installation. If I reset it will always hang at the beginning and unable to even get into the BIOS...
If I put the ram in dual channel setting it won't even start on first startup. But if it's on single channel it will at least let me go to the bios and such (but never recognized the floppy). Dual channel take more juice to run?
With this in mind is it possible that the mobo and/or cpu still be the cause of the problem?
Anyway I think I will try to get a power supply of at least 450W to test it. Just for testing purpose, can I get any power supply even if it's not antec or enermax as long as it has high voltage? I can test it and if it's working I can always return it and go buy a real power supply from antec or enermax where there is one.
Hi,
Before you go out and get another power supply, you need to make sure you have everything hooked up correctly.
Try flipping the floppy cable over and see if the BIOS recognizes it. That is a common mistake that all of us make from time to time. The red stripe (pin 1) goes toward the power plug on that one and it is opposite as a rule from the other ribbon cables, because the normal power plug on the hard drives have the power plug on the opposite side.
Second, tell us exactly what drives you have and how you have them hooked up...here is an example: Maxtor 30 gig IDE, set as master, on the end of the ribbon cable, and connected to IDE #1.
Third, the memory thing does seem to be an issue. Is the memory that you have listed on the QVL list in the motherboard manual?
For now, for testing purposes, just leave one stick of Ram in the board, and do follow the instructions in the manual about where that single stick should be. As an example, some boards require that when you use a single stick, that it is in Dimm2, Dimm3, or even Dimm4 instead of Dimm 1. That feature is new to some who don't regularly build, so please check that out before you go too far.
Let us know these things and we will try to get right back to you.
Posted by: Talannon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
Try flipping the floppy cable over and see if the BIOS recognizes it. That is a common mistake that all of us make from time to time. The red stripe (pin 1) goes toward the power plug on that one and it is opposite as a rule from the other ribbon cables, because the normal power plug on the hard drives have the power plug on the opposite side.
It will only go in the way I put it. Other thing is the power supply is an ATX with 20 pin. My manual says it should work but it also says that I could use a 24 pin SSI power supply but never use those. Again I am sure the power supply is in correctly cause I couldn't plug it any other way anyway.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
Second, tell us exactly what drives you have and how you have them hooked up...here is an example: Maxtor 30 gig IDE, set as master, on the end of the ribbon cable, and connected to IDE #1.
Maxtor 160 gig connected on sata 1 and there doesn't seem to ba master/slave option. Is it because it's SATA? It also seems to be detected as IDE THIRD Master on the first page.
LG DVD +/- RW in master on ide 1
Nothing on IDE 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
Third, the memory thing does seem to be an issue. Is the memory that you have listed on the QVL list in the motherboard manual?
My ram is PC3200 (DDR 400) it's supported from what I can read in the book
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
For now, for testing purposes, just leave one stick of Ram in the board, and do follow the instructions in the manual about where that single stick should be. As an example, some boards require that when you use a single stick, that it is in Dimm2, Dimm3, or even Dimm4 instead of Dimm 1. That feature is new to some who don't regularly build, so please check that out before you go too far.
Manual says it should be in a green slot first which is dimm 1 and 3. I put it in dimm 1 ans it should be fine. The setup like it is now, is in the combination list in the manual.
Posted by: Talannon
Quote:
Originally Posted by ginger6
I dont think it is your power supply, the power supply you have should handle what you have got no problem, the problem will be your memory...... are the 2 memory sticks you have identical, ie: same manufacturer, same speed, same chips on the board..... to run in dual channel mode you need both sticks to be exactly identical otherwise you will have problems.
What brand is the memory, if it is a cheap brand then you may have compatibilty problems.
Have you run memtest86 when both sticks are inserted but not in dual channel mode?
Kevin
I've only run test with the ram installed separately...
I also bought my ram as dual channel so I got a kit from Kingston KVR. So they should be identical to each other. Kingston is in the list of supported memory on MSI webpage of the motherboard...
Posted by: Talannon
So I tested the both ram at the same time but in single channel and no error.
One thing I notice is when I boot the ram is showed to go at 201 mhz instead of 200. Not sure if it says something...
Posted by: whodatknocking
Quote:
First I get the computer and at first boot I get no video signal. I see that I forgot to put the spacer between MoBo and the case.
this might be a real problem, we'll see
but first:
go into your bios and relaxe the timings on your ram, maybe 3-4-4-8
pump the voltage up on the ram a notch,to maybe 2.7 or 2.8
post back
Posted by: Talannon
humm I'm not sure what I should be looking for in the bios for that.
If I put Timing mode in manual instead of auto I can change a bunch of thing. I have no idea what you mean by 3-4-4-8... There is something in that called CAS# latency (Tcl) which is by default at 2.5 but could change it to 2.0 or 3.0. Is that the voltage?
Posted by: whodatknocking
try 3
no it isnt the voltage, the voltage would be in another spot in the bios
post back
Posted by: Talannon
changed nothing
I guess I am to a point to check the cpu on another socket 939 MoBo to see if it's the cpu or the MoBo the problem. With everything we tried I start to doubt it could be anything else.

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Quote from: Assaf on 13-April-05, 04:39:15
Spread spectrum means the frequency is modulated (not constant) - so it will be measured differantly.
I don't see this as an issue, but why do you need it enabled anyway ?
The frequency thing is strange since Cool'n Quiet is disabled, maybe you have Core Center running and doing something to the frequency ?
Thanks for the reply.
Naturally i don't need the spread spectrum, but it was enabled by default and i was curious.
No, core center ( or something similar ) isn't running. Atm i don't want to change any frequencies, i just want to build it as stable as possible ( and fast, naturally ). And one other thing: seti is running quite well - it needs 2 to 2.5 hours to process a seti-work-unit - when the computer is running normal, but it slows down to about 1/3 of its speed when seti is running as screensaver, it needs 6 hours and more to complete one seti-work-unit. Isn't that exactly what Cool'nQuiet is doing ( among other things ) : reducing the clock speed to one third? :-(
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Well, someone has any idea how i can find out what is the problem with my computer?
Thanks in advance for any reply.

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I just love the mobo. One of the best I ever had. But recently Ive run into som trouble with it.
When i boot it sometime hangs and the d-bracket tells me it is because of the floppy drive controller. Kinda weird since ive turned it off in the bios and I dont got a floppy connected. Ive read a little on this site and got to the conclusion that it is probably my PSU. A real cheap one that came with my case to around 30 €. Its only a 300w and it is due to a change. But i find it peculiar that i has run fine for several months.
When i got the mobo and i booted it came with an boot option that had something to do with the network. If you pressed shift+f11 or something like that you would enter a menu where it was possible to configure several network boot options and the possibility to turn it off. I did and now i cant get it back? Not that i miss it but i might use it later on and i am sure it can be reenabled. But resetting cmos by jumper or removing the batteri doesnt do it. How do i do it?
And then after messing around with a frontpanel audio thing in my case the onboard sound stopped working. Ive reset it to standard by putting the jumpers where they belong and not using the frontpanel. But still no sound.
Guess that was all my trouble hope that youll be able to help me
Thanks in advance

Know pepole with same case/PSU as me (with "only" 17A on the 12V) and morew power demanding HW (9800xt) ... no probs anywere....
I belive that poeple shuld be aware of that not all problems are caused by having a PSU with less than 24A@12V rail....
I am getting a little tired of all the "Buy a new PSU" - answers... Willing to get in a debate on this.
BTW - fromt his post: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=72160.0
MB : Neo
GFX: 5900XT oc 460/850
PSU : BeQuiet 400W 1.3 Color
12 V rail : 20A
Drive value : 5p
Cpu : 2,2ghz@2,4ghz
Status : OK
MB : Neo2
GFX: X800pro@XT PE 527/605
PSU : BeQuiet Blackline 450W
12 V rail : 5V 45A / 12V 22A / 3.3V 28A
Drive value : 4P
Status : OK, good overclock
MB : MSI K8N Neo2-54G Platinum
GFX: Connect3D Radeon 9800 Pro
PSU : 400W Zalman (ZM400A-APF)
12 V rail : 15A (1st generation)
Drive value : 7P
Status : OK, running GREAT
MB : Neo2
GFX: X800pro
PSU : BeQuiet Blackline 450W
12 V rail : 5V 45A / 12V 22A / 3.3V 28A
Status : OK
MB : Neo2
GFX: 9600PRO / 128MB
PSU : Seasonic 350W
12 V rail : 19 A
Drive value : 3p
Status : OK
... and mine (signature)
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MOVED: k8n Neo4 Plat problem

This topic has been moved to Linux/Unix.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=135116.0

got 3.8 flashed up, my system still reboots if i hit tab while it is doing a full memory check on a cold boot (notice last night it dosen't do a memory check on a warm reboot).
I was at least able to load into windows 2k with this bios though (unlike 3.7 that froze on the windows splash/boot screen).
I am going to try my friends memory and video card (which are duplicate to mine) and if it still reboots every time i hit Tab while it is doing a memory check i am going to RMA the board monday.
I tried for several hours to get the system to "fail again" in windows and i have had no luck at getting a second lockup/failure.
also the main C: (the raptor 74gig) said the SMART information was all in spec (also ran the WD diagnostic tools on it and everything passed).
I figure all i can do is RMA the MB which i am 99% sure will fix the weird boots (slow to come on if it has had 100% power loss/cut), and thenwhen it is doing the POST memory check and i hit Tab (from a cold boot) it reboots again, also the few lockup's i had at the POST splash screen (which i haven'g gotten to repeat either but i didn't try too hard only about 5-8 reboots)
I really feel these issues are motherboard issues. As for what happened in windows (with it freezeing and document and settings getting corrupted/renamed) i just do NOt know if that is associated with the other ones, or if it was a completely seperate fluke and i am just not gettong concerened about these other issues (that i have had from day 1)
Thanks for the assist all, Hopefully RMA and getting a repaired/refurbed MB will fix all my issues. I hate having an unstable system, but when it is a unrepeatble crash/freeze it makes it SOOOO difficult to diagnose if you don't have weeks to work on it.

K8N Neo4 Platinum Will not boot when SP2 is installed

I installed everything on my pc. Used MSI live update to get everything up to date. I then realized that I didn't do any windows updates (was up to SP1) When I put sp2 on the pc bluescreens after the windows splash screen. I can bring up in safe , vga , and network enabled modes. I didn't install sp2 on the old bios so I don't know if it is a bios issue. Has anyone else had this problem? I need to put sp2 on eventually...... I was thinking that it might be a vga problem but I don't have another PCIX board to swap.

If you have another computer with a CD burner you can slipstream your copy of XP with SP2 (just google XP SP2 slipstream). Then you can just do a windows repair. If you can't I would suggest doing a windows repair anyways but right after you get into windows install SP2.
To me it sounds like a driver conflict. If neither works, you may have to format. Again when you do install windows then immediatly install SP2, then drivers and so forth.
Good Luck
Jeremy

K8N Neo4 Platinum problem socket 939

Hi pals...
The problem is that the small fan placed near the memory slots in my MOBO (which I was told is the chipset fan) makes a very loud high pitched noise everytime i turn the PC on. Actually I keep my PC on 24/7, but sometimes when I turn it off and then I turn it on again, after a short while, it starts making this weird noise, which starts increasing louder and louder (as if verything was going to explode) and after three or five minutes, it suddenly stops and all the noises are the usual fan-like ones. The fan has MSI logo on it.
So far the PC has been working fine and apart from that nothing else is wrong. My processor is an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ socket 939. I have 1Gb Memory and the VGA is an MSI NX GeForce 6600 GT 128 Mb
Can that small fan be replaced in case it is the fan actually about to die? or do I have to buy a WHOLE new MOBO. this one is not even one year old, but the warranty only covered it until the 9th month so I cannot take it to the shop where I bought it (besides it's way far from where I live).
Any help is appreciated.
Thanxs

Pals...
Don't get angry please and I am definitely sorry for not answering earlier but given the fact that I don't want the card to completely die on me (or the PC for what it's worth) I keep it turned off and when I need to do something on it, I turn it on for a short while (answering your messages for example).
As the zalman option you suggested, I must tell you that I live in Tierra del Fuego, Argentina, which is the southermost place on the earth. (Thank God We are 200 Kms away from Antarctica, so as it's VERY COLD here, I don't mind very much about getting external heat. Actually I am keeping my heaters fown so that the room doesn't get hot and BELIEVE ME when I say that it's cold in the room) Anyway, PC devices here are VERY hard to find since the best option os to buy them online in Buenos Aires (which is 3000 Kms away from my town) and the prices with shipping expenses and all make products extremely expensive, to such an extent that getting a new card is the best option. What's more, MOST of the coolers you are suggesting do not even EXIST here in Argentina. So, I had to try other alternatives to what you were suggesting, but since I cannot have my AVG card without a cooling system, I guess I'll have to decide on something. I have already discarded this Big device I asked you about as you all pointed out the fact that the noise will me madenning and what I am actually trying to avoid is to have MORE NOISE from fans from the ones I already have.
In the meantime, do you know of that utility I asked about? I mean, is there such a thing?
I thank you enormously for the help and advice given. Believe me that is actually leading me.
Look... On an Argentinian bidding site (like e-bay) I found the one you mention, but it doesn't say LED. Is it the same? http://www.deremate.com.ar/accdb/viewItem.asp?IDI=11063197
It's U$D 65 (quite expensive converted to my currency) and the option I mentioned of the Giant cooler was almost the same price. Do you think I should go for it?
Ooops... I found it on another bidding site and cheaper... and this one DOES SAY LED!!!!
http://www.masoportunidades.clarin.com/jsp/fichaAvisos/fichanavegar.jsp?av_id=1859538

K8N NEO4 Platinum cold boot problem with 165 opteron?

I have this board and have a cold boot problem with my opteron. Is there anything I can do to fix this? Its starting to get very anooying.
K8N NEO4 Platinum
165 opty dual core
2X1GB Ballistix PC4000
160GB sata2
7800GTX
X-Fi platinum
600 watt seasonic PSU

Well I am running them at the rated speed of 250 and the rated timings of 3-4-4-10 on the rated 2.8 volts. Ballistix have been known to die quickly when you throw to many volts at them for some reason. I dont get the cold boot problem with the OCZ. Once I finally get it to boot with the Ballistix it works just fine but the next morning I play hell to get it to boot again. I dont even get the main screen to let me get into bios. It just stays black. I have done all kinds of stress testing and ran memtest with no problems. I am really at a loss here.

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