K8n Neo4 No post problem

Howdy, folks. Hoping that you can give me a hand here.
My girlfriends computer is having some issues. It's was working find for the past 3 months or so (since I built it) but this morning when she powered it on it didn't post. Looking at the D-Bracket I noticed that it stalled with the 1st and 4th lights red (Processor Initialization). I looked the troubleshooting portion of the boards, and tried clearing the CMOS (using the Clear CMOS Button) and also by removing the battery. Niether of those worked.
We're using an ANTEC SP-500 PSU, and it seems to be working fine (CPU, GPU, NB and case fans all spinning). The rear exhaust fan on the PSU itself isn't spinning, but if I remeber correctly it only spins up when required.
I'm really stumped here . Any thoughts?
Thanks.

Quote from: DaveR on 03-March-06, 06:19:52
Well it sure looks like it has gone bad.
If you have a matched pair and timings on auto or correct manual timings it should work fine.
I guess you could enter bios with good stick and increase voltage slightly; 2.7/2.8v and try 'bad' one again but not confident it will work.
I had the timings set to auto, and being as how I really don't know my way around setting timings myself. I think I'll just call that stick dead and look into some new memory.

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This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
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