K8N Neo4 Plat. boot delay with Canon MP390

Hi everyone!
My problem is the following:
My K8N Neo4 Plat. based computer got a huge delay (5mins!) on POST at boot (right after CPU name listing) when my Canon MP390 multifuntion USB printer is connected.  I already know its caused by a conflict between the printer's card reader and the mobo, something maybe related to the mobo trying to boot on the card reader.  Could be something else, but for now that's the only explanation i could find.
I red all post here concerning USB boot problems (or delays) and tried everything i could and red without results 
Things that have been done (and much more!) :
- Flashed to latest v1.5 BIOS
- Disabled booting to other devices in BIOS leaving only floppy, cdrom and HD as bootable devices
- Disabled support for USB KB/storage devices in BIOS
- Unplugged Mitsumi floppy/cardreader combo drive (USB internal)
- Unplugged front panel USB and D-Bracket2
- 2 days of various tests with other computers, printers, psu, USB devices I had in store
I'm about to give up on this one!  ..  Anyone got ideas other than buying a new multifuntion printer?  Could it be a defective mobo?
Thanks!
Rivendell
Computer specs are:
Athlon64 4000+, MSI K8N Neo4 Plat.
2x512MB PC3200 (OCZ 1GB KIT PN: OCZ4001024PDC-K)
Sapphire X850XT PCI-E 256MB, WD Raptor 74GB SATA
Thermaltake Silent Power 480w PSU, NEC 16X DVD-+RW
Mitsumi floppy/cardreader combo drive (unplugged for testing purpose)

It might be related with BIOS. The BIOS 1.65 seems to resolve the quick boot issue. You can get it from MSI to try it.

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