K8N Neo4 Platinum 7125 not posting after overclock testing okay

Hi Guys,
I'm having a real stinker of a problem with my 7125 board. I have all good components, but can't seem to get this bastard to post reliably when I'm overclocking. I was thinking that it was my power supply so I bought a new Antec Neo3 650W supply and it doesn't matter. I also got a new Opteron 165 processor and it still has problems. I even RMA'd my board and then sent me a new one. Here is my setup.
7125 ver1
Opty 165
Crucial PC3200 Ballistix
Nvidia PCIE Gforce 6200 video
Antec Neo3 650W
2x Seagate SATA 80gig (matched) 7200.9
RAID 0 via the SIL 3114
extra 160 gig HD (using the Nvidia SATA port)
Pioneer DVD 109 DVDRW - pri IDE
Sony DRU-820A DVDRW - sec IDE
Hauppauge PVR150
3.5" card reader (connected via internal usb header)
Lian Li case
When I run the system at stock speeds everything works fine, including the initial posts.
However, when I overclock, everything is erratic. Sometimes, I can overclock the entire system to 290x3, 166, stable memory settings, and prime 95 orthos the out of it for days on end (max CPU at 49C), but when I select restart in windows, it shuts down fine, but will subsequently not post. I have to hit the reset key several times, then it recovers itself and undoes the overclocks.
I have tried all sorts of memory timings from the crucial info - it recommends 2.8V and 2-2-2-8 timings.
I have heard that my memory is good for overclocking, but I'm now starting to wonder if it is the MSI Neo4 board or the Nvidia Nforce 4 ultra chipset.
Could it be the Raid 0 on the Sil 3114? I haven't messed with this as I would rather have a RAID 0 setup, then a little overclock.
Is there a good NF4 ultra board out there that is better than this?
I can't imagine anything else to do except keep spending more money to eliminate more variables.
Your thoughts? Thx Nick

relax your CPU HTT freq. by 10-20Mhz and retest.
relax your memory timings e.g. from 2-2-2-8 to 2.5-3-3-8, to findout from where its comes then find optimal settings.

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