K8N Neo4 Platinum Battery Voltage

Hello there,
the BIOS screen (HW Monitor) tells that my battery voltage is 1.8 V
Is this normal? The mainboard is brand new...
I expected something around 3 volt...
Regards
Josef

Quote from: Makisst on 15-June-05, 05:06:56
take the battery out and test it with a voltometer to see if is ok or the sensor that mesourment for you is bad or if is something wrong with your bios.
Thanks for the hint, did that this morning. The voltate of the battery is 2.98 Volt when not installed. I cannot measure then voltage when the battery is installed. There are now two possible reasons, one is that the measurement is wrong and the other is that the mainboard places such a load on the battery that the voltage drops to 1.8 Volt.
Has anybody else had problems with the battery?
I have seen some post which state that the BIOS settings are no longer saved, this is most likely a battery problem...
Regards
Josef

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