K8N Neo4 Platinum bios problem

ive a 3.7 64bit which reports right at post
but in windows its showing at 3.7+ 2.21ghz
cpu support say its a 2.4ghz chip
i updated bios to the latest 1
in bios i went into cell menu
in there its reporting at
current cpu clock 2211mhz
current ddr clock 201mhz
i can not change these settings
please can some 1 help me in setting my chip up so it reports right
thanks

The link you provided relates to a amd roadmap from 2004 interpreted by Anandtech. A roadmap is like a what-we-want-to-do list from a processor manufacturer it's not binding for amd and doesn't represent what was indeed released. Indeed amd did not release a 2,4ghz 512kb 3700+ for 939. The first 3700+ for 939 was 1mb san diego core (2,2ghz). The only 2400mhz 3700+ is socket 754 Clawhammer core, try yourself on amd page by entering your processor details: http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/Default.aspx
You can prove me wrong by posting the opn printed on your cpu (looks like this ADA3700AEP5AR). But I'm sure there is no 2400mhz 3700+ for 939.

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