K8N Neo4 Platinum - Fan control missing?

Good evening.
I've recently assembled an Athlon 64 3000 (Venice) / Neo4 Platinum system, and unfortunatly I am not able to control the speed of any fan connected to the motherboard. Also disappointing is the fact that four fans are connected, but only three show in Speedfan.
My CPU cooler is Thermaltake's Venus 12, so it's not MB-controlable.
My Enermax 120mm fan connects using the usual 3-wire connection, and has an RPM knob integrated. It doesn't seem to respond to Speedfan no matter what the state of the knob is.
Last but not least is the noisy chipset fan, which shows but also doesn't respond to Speedfan.
There's also a 92mm Enermax fan which is connected the same way as the 120mm one, but doesn't show.
I've only found two BIOS settings that were said to be relevant - Cool'n'Quiet and CPU Fan Target. Both had no effect. I did no find a NB Fan Target setting that some people reported having.
CoreCenter seems uselss. It doesn't change anything regarding the chipset fan, and I didn't find any "Temp Alarm" setting for the chipset, that was also mentioned here at some time. Tried uninstalling it as well (probably with a restart, I don't remember), but it doesn't seem to have had an impact on the fan control issue.
So essentialy, what I've got are four fans connected, three of those showing, two of these that can theoretically be adjusted through software, one that's too damn noisy at more than 7500 RPM, and zero that I can actually through software.
And no, a Zalman Fanmate is not a solution after I've invested in this top-of-the-line MB. I expect to get what I've paid for.
Is there a solution to this problem, once and for all?

To get to the CoreCenter Temp alarms, you have to expand the right 'wing' (click little arrow); but this only sets temperature below which an alarm will sound: it has no effect on fan speed itself.
But indeed, nothing on CoreCenter seems to affect NB fan.
The manual itself only mentions that CPUFAN1 supports fan control. 
[Will eventually apply myself hardware solution for nb fan, either single resistor, as described elsewhere on this board, or with rheostat; if i can find a store where to buy fanmate2, that would be better (shipping/handling from net order would cost more than the darn thing!).]
@Flow: my case fan, connected to SFAN1, does show in Speedfan, even without CoreCenter lauchned (I removed it from StarUp list).
(However, i still have the AMD PowerNow! Technology Service, ie GemServ, enabled and started)

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