K8N Neo4 Platinum not booting

Hi I just moved my fully working K8N Neo4 Platinum based setup from one case to another, and now it's not booting. All fans are starting but the USB D-bracket 2 shows LED's 1 and 4 yellow and 2 and 3 red and the computer hangs. I can't seem to find this LED combination in the manual where it's only supposed to show green and red lights. Anyone got any idea of what's wrong?
Thanks

Okay I'll try to be more specific, the thing that makes me clueless is that the rig has been working flawlessly before.
CPU/Memory:
AMD Athlon64 Venice 90nm 3500+ 2.2GHz
2x512 MB OCZ DDR PC-4000 Gold VX (500 Mhz, 2-2-2-8)
I've tried unmounting every single component and mounting it back on again. I've tried both memory sticks in a single slot but no luck.
The PSU it's been running on is an Antec True380SP 380W (included in Antec Sonata case), yes 380W is a bit low so i tried a beefier PSU as well (Antec True430P 430W) with the same result.
Max Amperage:
Antec True430P 430W -- +3.3V = 28A, +5V = 36A, +12V = 20A
Antec True380SP 380W -- +3.3V = 28A, +5V = 35A, +12V = 24A
HDD:
Western Digital Raptor WD740ADFD 74Gb 10000rpm 16Mb cache SATA connected to SATA1
All fans power up, Power LED lights up and HDD powers up, but no VGA signal. I've reset CMOS and I've read through the stickies and tried the fixes there applicable to my problems, but no luck so far. Only thing I can think of that haven't tried is switching the CMOS battery.

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Code: [Select]
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