K8N Neo4 Platinum (PCB 1.0) and AMD 64 3800+ X2

Help!
I have a K8N Neo4 Platinum (PCB 1.0) and it had an AMD 64 3200+ single core CPU.
Now I've upgraded to an AMD 64 3800+ X2 dual core but the BIOS and MS Vista are seeing only the one core.
The BIOS is at the latest version - 1.D.
Whats' going on?
Hitch.

Quote from: hitchhiker on 20-April-07, 08:44:57
This motherboard does support the X2 CPU right?
It's listed as supported on the MSI website but has nayone else got both cores running on it?
Hitch.
Yes it does support X2
Did you clear cmos with power cable disconnected from psu?
Look at my signature for link to proper method.

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K8N Neo4 Platinum random lock-ups and BSOD

I built a new PC about 3 months ago and from day 1 it has always locked up / frozen at random intervals. Sometimes it also BSOD's with a Machine Check Exception. Seems to lock up / freeze more often when have multifple windows open eg. Multiple IE running but really is random. I have replaced the Mobo and Ram but keep having the same issues. Have tried a clean install but no luck either. Did a clean install on an old IDE HDD and seemed fine but it did not have all of the software that I run on the SATA drive. Thinking the SATA drive may be the issue? Please Help!!!
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Quote from: davePC on 09-August-06, 09:06:44
Did a clean install on an old IDE HDD and seemed fine but it did not have all of the software that I run on the SATA drive. Thinking the SATA drive may be the issue? Please Help!!!
Seemed fine?
There isn't really be any difference between an IDE drive and a sata.
Except that the sata drive needs some drivers as your installing the os.
Check your ram timings in bios but likely it's your psu.
Which components are on which rail?
The ones that use the +12v are your cpu,cdrom,dvdrom and graphics card.
Try disconnecting both roms and see if it improves things?

About K8N Neo4 Platinum temperature (NV Monitor and CoreCenter)

OK, ¿Who is the good one?
Also i have a temperature panel in my case, and the temperature is different too.

Quote from: nuxeretes on 02-March-05, 20:24:53
OK, ¿Who is the good one?
Also i have a temperature panel in my case, and the temperature is different too.
Every software does read data from sm bus. That one is true. However each of them does calculation on its own and performs compensation. Just for example; vcore calculation looks like this: $20*0.00488 + 0.69 which turns into 1.41.
Finally booth of them are right. The board has 3 sensors: CPU, Board, "something". NvMonitor shows CPU and "something" while corecenter shows CPU and Board.
NvMonitor can't be trusted, they produce northbridge and it is up to board manufacturer to select monitoring chips (winbond, lm,etc) on board. Therefore I would rather believe to the corecenter.
I suggest using Motherboard Monitor MBM and using my custom data for monitoring the temps:
http://213.214.52.181/Motherboard Monitor MBM 5.3.7.0 for MSI Neo4 Data Only.rar
Also, I believe that "something" is a temperature of the northbridge, but compensation must be added. CoreCenter shall fix this isue, but then... why they didn't do that before... because "something" is not for northbridge as I thought... who knows... yeah whatever, who cares...

Problem with BIOS K8N Neo4 Platinum (PCB 1.0)

Hi...
I just wanna know which is the best BIOS for overclock for this motherboard... I've tried diferent BIOS versions, but i can't get FSB greater than 235 mhz...
ps:sorry for my english

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I don't have this board at hand. So...uh I haven't tried those bios, but many guys on the forum have the experience in using 1.C or beta 1.Cx. It seems that there is not any obvious bug. However, in my opinion, the newest bios is not always the best one for your board. If not necessary, don't update bios. The stability is the most important.
thanks...
em... the 1.C is a beta version???
i think i will try the 1.B version...

K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI missing 1t/2t option in bios

Hey all,
I cant see 1t2t command rate option in my bios. It is disappered. Need help pls.
System:
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AMD athlon 64 3700+ S939 san diego (brand ID:4, model:7, stepping:2)
A-DATA 2xddr 600
not: I saw some other ppl had similar problems with their platinum ultra bords and they did solve the problem by flashing their bios to previous one.
You can read that post in here:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=101464.msg740760#msg740760

Quote from: flobelix on 30-January-07, 21:44:59
??? I'm kind of confused... As I said I'm using the same board with the same bios and I can see and change 1T/2T.
Thanks for your reply,
Our mainboard are same but our cpu core are different. When I was using Venice everything was ok. Was using my Venice 9*300 with water cooling.
But now I have 3700+ SAN DIEGO .
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Quote from: flobelix on 30-January-07, 21:44:59
Where exactly are you trying to find this option in the bios? As Richard said make sure you enabled manual for CPU and Ram settings.
I know where I am looking.
User Config Mode --> [Manual] but there is only "Bottom of 32-bit" , "Read Preamble value" and " Async Latency value".
Quote from: flobelix on 30-January-07, 21:44:59
Please tell us exactly(!) what you changed in Cell Menu (core speed, HT, mem clock and so on), report your CPU model and stepping.
Did you clear cmos after(!) flashing 3.A mod?
After flash I remove my power cable for 1-2 mşnutes than press reset button. During post screen I enter bios to load failsafe defaults. After those steps I try to find what is good/bad with that bios.
Feel free to ask anything that can fix this problem.

SATA drives not being detected - K8N Neo4 Platinum

I have the same problem, different PSU!
msi k8n neo4 platinum pcb 1.0
3000 64 939
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nvidia 8800gts
antec truepower 550 (19a @ 12v)
used to run 2 ide maxtor 120 and 80
added in a sata dvd writer, worked for 6 months
added in a sata 1TB seagate 7200, sata fails a majority of the time
same symptons now persist as in original post.
:< either bios detects both sata drives, neither, or it crashes. this happens respectively rarely, uncommon, and most common
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updated all mainboard, bios, video drivers to the most up to date (i had to in order for bios to detect the full size of the 1TB)
no ide, same problems
only 1 sata, with and without ide, same problems
the sata only works after a long period of time (or randomly), that i dont use it
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testing a new psu in a day or so, much more powerful. ill give you all my results.

The cables aren't overly bent?
"...worked for 6 months"
"...fails a majority of the time"
Not very relevant, but since i found the FAQs, and there are no less than four FAQs for hard disks http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=prodfaq&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=&cat3_no=&prod_no=165#menu :
"Silicon Image Si3114R Raid bios doesn't have JBOD setting in it, why?
In the new Silicon Image BIOS, JBOD already been renamed as "Concatenation".
If you want to use single SATA HDD or when tou want use each SATA HDD as IDE mode, you can choose "Concatenation" function in Silicon RAID BIOS."
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K8N Neo4 Platinum with 90nm San Diego 4000+

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My first post here. Tomorrow I'm purchasing a K8N Neo4 Platinum MB (non SLI) and have requested the retail seller to get me a 90nm San Diego 4000+ instead of the older 130nm Clawhammer 4000+. Now, after reading through this forum it appears there may be a compatibility issue with the San Diego chip. Should I change to the Clawhammer or go ahead with the San Diego. I don't plan on OCing for a couple of months. What should I do?
Thanks!

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Tom899
I just fired up my K8n Neo4/sli with a 4000 rev.e chip last night, Bios is showing 3.0 and working like it should. Have it hooked to a Enermax 535 watt and One Evga 6800gt pci-e with the second card still in the box, I want to give it a good update and test before I bring the second card online, Cpu running at 35c with the side of under a Thermalright xp 90C Heatsink fan blowing down, want to test it fan blowing up next. Good luck it's a nice chip.
JJWOLD, thanks for the update, good news for me. I picked up the board last night, the rest of the stuff should be here next week. I'm going to load it with WinXP 64, which I know has limited driver support but I have three other computers so I'll just take it very slow on additional hardware and software installations. I may even use the integrated sound for now. By the way, did your board come with the 1394 cable and bracket?
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PSU Dead and MOBO K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI Too, what can i do???

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Please if you have any suggestion, i´ll be happy.
BTW: Which are the procedures to RMA both componnets ? I bough the mobo and PSU and the others components on www.newegg.com on May 09 2005.
Thanks for all.

Got my Newegg RMA board back (K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI) today! I mailed it to them Friday, they got it Monday and a replacement back to me today. Excellent turnaround
The board looks like it was refurbished because the anti-static bag was a bit wrinkled and had pinholes all over one section where the board couldn't have caused it. Also, it had bios 3.0 on it! The rest of the stuff in the board looks new but it didn't come with the USB 2.0 bracket which the first board I got did. Live and learn.
I flashed it to 3.2 and all appears to be working. Not gonna try 3.3. I read somewhere that there may be a beta 3.5 bios out somewhere. Maybe I'll wait till that one goes final.
Haven't had any experience with MSI support as far as RMA's but if this replacement board craps out I'll try them next.

K8N NEO4 Platinum and PCIE Clock

I have K8N NEO4 Platinum, AMD FX55, 2X512 Crucial Ballistix PC4200, PowerColor X850XT VIVO, 3X74 HD WD Raptor.
I have a big problem with this motherboard and Video card.
I have set CPU clock at 250mhz (because I have DDR500), now the PCE clock is 100mhz. Is synchronous with CPU clock? If yes is there a moltiplicator to change the PCIE clock(my videocard is 400mhz), because It provokes artefacts in the Post , in the bios,and continues shutdown of the system( first appears the windows “VPU RECOVER”, than shutdown) and the visualization is full of artefacts.
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I have K8N NEO4 Platinum, AMD FX55, 2X512 Crucial Ballistix PC4200, PowerColor X850XT VIVO, 3X74 HD WD Raptor.
The question is: Pcie clock is asynchronous or synchronous with CPU Clock, when is disable spectrum in cellmenu?

Difference between K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI and K8N-SLI Platinum

Hey guys.... I have one question and i hope you can help me.
I'm about to get an MSI SLI Platinum motherboard, but it seems that there are two versions, the K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI and the K8N-SLI Platinum.
What is the real difference between them? As i can see in the manual, the Neo4 version has the additional SATA2 and Gbit LAN controller.
Anyone: Does your K8N-SLI board have 4 or 6 SATA2 ports? and 1 or 2 LANs?
At this picture http://www.midtdata.dk/asp/index.asp?varernr=K8N-SLI-PLAT&goto=productinfo&mainfunc=link I can see that there are 6 blue SATA connectors (lower right corner), and 2 LAN ports left to the LPT port... But the description says 4 SATA and 1 LAN, and so says the manual.
To all owners of this mobo: Does this picture look like your K8N-SLI Platinum or does it look like your K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI ?

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=36.0
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K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI and BIOS goofiness

A couple nights ago I figured I'd flash my K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI to the latest BIOS version, since I hadn't touched it in over a year. I was using 3.1, and I decided to use the 3.A. Big mistake. Computer boots fine, but immediately bluescreens as soon as Windows tries to load. After diddling around on my brother's computer trying to make a bootable CD, I manage to get back to a state where I can flash again, and try the 3.7. Same problem...bluescreen on Windows startup. At that point I just gave up and went back to 3.1, ignoring the 3.3 and 3.2 BIOSes.
Is anyone else having issues trying to flash the more recent BIOSes?
(I just recently found out that MSI's US site doesn't have a complete list of available BIOSes, while the Taiwanese site does. I might have to give 3.9 and 3.8 a try.)
EDIT: My system specs are in the link in my sig.

Ok, quick update. I just spent about half an hour with 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.7, 3.8, 3.9, and 3.A. None of them work except 3.1...they all bluescreen while starting Windows. I made sure to clear the CMOS completely, yes I left APIC/MPS settings the same (they've always been on default so that hasn't been an issue), and I tried the various safe modes.
Here's the error code given on the BSOD: 0x0000007B (0xF78A6528, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)
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K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra and 4 GB SDRAM DDR 400 Problem

I have the K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra and 4 1GB sticks of Corsair ValueSelect DDR 400 (PC 3200), model VS1GB400C3, filling all four slots. The BIOS recognizes about 2.88 GB of total memory. The MSI manual states:
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Due to the South Bridge resource deployment, the system density
will only be detected up to 3+GB (not full 4GB) when each
DIMM is installed with an 1GB memory module.
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Hi.
You seems not familiar with X86....
As you should know, Windows XP and most OS are 32 bits. That mean that every memory pointer is 32 bits, thus allowing to address 4Gb of memory.
BUT
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So, If you have for example 3Gb of ram, in the best case, you have 1gb for system and 2Gb for user program.
To allow more Ram to fonction, PAE (Physical Address Extension) was made. Instead of 32, you got 36 bits for you pointers.
But as X86-32 CPUs can't handle more than 32 bits, a reserved area was made within 4Gb to allow Memory to be copied from the area the program want to read.
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You got a server with 8Gb of ram. In windows, you only see 3.5+512Mb PAE.
If a program need to address memory in the 7-7.5 Range for example, the chipset copy the data from the 7-7.5 range to the 3.5-4 range in order to allow the CPU to get access: that's VERY slow.
So, in short: You can't have and don't need 4Gb of ram on 32bits OS.
(And there's even more place occupied by every card (AGP, PCI, PCI-e)....)
That's why XP64 is so interresting for programmers who needs lots of ram (Database....). When used with a chipset who know how to deal with lots of ram (I don't know if NForce4 can do it but I doubt it), you can load in memory a 4Gb Database.
But In all case, the bios should say 3.5Gb, not 2 and so on. You must have a problem with one of your stick. My guess is that they are all double sided and that you should slow down the memory to 333MHz.
(Or better: Send back 2x1Gb stick and get 2x512 SINGLE SIDED stick, unless you REALLY NEED 1.5Gb for your system !)

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Hi,
I don't understand if the MSi K8N Neo4 Platinum has wake on lan capability..
There is in BIOS a setting in power manegement, but it's not loisting 'wake on lan'. In Windows (XP Pro), I can find a tool from MSI where I can setup a date/time for the PC to boot up, but nothing about WOL.
Can it do WOL ?
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Hi everyone:
I have decided to purchase the K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI (MS-7100-020) and I ready placed the order. However, I wonder if it supports the AMD X2 3800+ (E6 Version) CPU? The reason I asked the question because I found the following table from the Taiwan MSI web site which shows that X2 3800+ E6 is undertesting.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=641&kind=1
Thank you for any replies.

Mine worked, ran for 2 weeks already at stock, tried & ran to 2.2GHz on stock HSF with no problem.
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See my screenshots for your info.

BSOD's on my x64 K8N Neo4 Platinum based PC, Any ideas what's wrong? Help!

Over the past few month I've been getting BSOD's. There is no real pattern to their occurence and it's not something which is constantly happening (It happened around 5 times in the past 2 months), but I've really grown to hate them. You see, after getting one what has happened in the past is that when I go to restart my pc after getting a BSOD, I find I need to re-install my whole OS! What happens is that after booting (which oddly enough doesn't work well after a BSOD, It freezes on the boot screen and I need to restart several times), a black screen appears telling me that certain files in the C:Windows\ direcotory are corrupt or missing.
So the real problem is that the BSOD's cause me to re-install my whole OS. One will happen, then it will be ok, I turn the system on, log into windows, then it might happen again, after which I'll need to re-install. The files that go missing are always different too, and when I run scan-disk (after plugging in my main drive into another computer) it finds corrupt files and deletes them.
At first I thought it was Azureus (p2p client) which was causing the problems because it seemed to happen when I was runing that. I stopped using it, and the BSOD's still occured...sometimes randomly when browsing...etc. I figured that since files got deleted and corrpupted, it must be a problem withthe Hard Drive....So I bought a new one, and I've still had the BSOD error (although files haven't been deleted yet).
So yeah, I really need to solve this problem as it is taking away from my productivity and causing me to re-install far too often. I will post the BSOD info as well as my system info below (and a screen shot):
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MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION
*** STOP: 0x0000009c (0x0000000000000004,0xFFFFF80000113BC0, 0x00000000B2000000, 0x0000000000070F0F)
I looked that up on the net, and it seems the first part seems to indicate, or at least COULD indicate overheating. I checked CPU and System temps and they seem acceptable.
I am running Windows XP x64 Edition with the following hardware (please note that all of the hardware drivers I'm using are written for x64, MSI is so good:)). I have had this PC before it started having these problems, it could be related to using x64 I guess, but the error doesn't show that does it?
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AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0 GHz Socket 939 (Venice Core) w/ stock heatsink/fan
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum S-939 nForce4 Ultra
OCZ PC-3200 DDR400 Premier Series 1GB (2x512MB) Dual Channel Kit CAS 2.5
Ati Radeon x800xl 256MB gddr3, PCI-E
LG 17" L1720B LCD monitor 16ms, 1280x1024
Western Digital Caviar 120GB SATA
Western Digital Caviar SATA II (WD1600JS) 160GB 7200RPM 8MB Buffer
Western Digital Caviar SATA II (WD2500KS) 250GB 7200RPM 16MB Buffer
Pioneer DVR-109 DVD-RW
Pioneer DVR-110D DVD-RW
Antec Sonata II Mid tower ATX black power supply 450 Watt ( ATX12V 2.01 )
Creative I-Trigue 2.1 L3450 speakers
Sony 1.44MB Floppy Disk Drive
Microsoft multimedia keyboard and Microsoft optical mouse (PS/2)
My OS and drivers are fully updated. As for my BIOS I've been running the version I'm using now forquite some time and I believe it is version 1.5. Also in another bad turn of events, my northbridge fan seems to be on its way out of this world (this just happned so I don't think its related to the BSOD). I haven't been able to find a replacement, and since its not spinning very fast, and sometimes stops...It's causing the heatsink to get quite hot. I need to get a new one, and I can't find them anywhere...I wonder if thats covered under warranty... I looked into getting a different heatsink, but my Graphics card is so colse to this heatsink, that theres no room for a bigger one at all.
Do you think this problem is motherboard related, I cannot understand what the technical info the BSOD gives me means, can anybody understand it? I don't think its my HD's, or Ram, or CPU...could it be a motherboard problem? And if so, its under 1 year old, can I get an RMA?
Thanks for the help in advance.

At one time I had a weak 450w psu that had only 18a on the 12v rail. When I overclocked my cpu and gpu, I was getting bsod's every once in a while and couldnt figure it out until I read a similar post like yours on this forum. I decided to upgrade my psu and havent had that problem since.
Power supplies can be deceiving. I now have a 480w psu but its has 30a on the 12v rail. So what we need to know is the ratings of your psu (see my sig) just to see if your psu is the culprit. Just my 2 cents.

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