K8N Neo4 platinum Problem!!!

Hi! I have got a problem with my K8N neo4 platinum mobo. The problem is from the beginning when i built the system i wanted to use my scssi disc as boot disc, bios find my disc and i started to install win xp i pushed F6 to install my scsi drivers then i went on with the xp install and i came to the first restart and the computer restarts and win xp logo the loadning screen appear, then my computer completly hangs up. I have tried diffrent ways of configuration but it doesnt work same problem all the time. Then i give up my scsi hd and put a ata100 ide disk in my computer to use a boot disk instead of my scsi disc, i start the installation of xp and i came to the first restart and then win xp logo loading screen appear, then the graphical installation moment begin a few seconds the my computer hangs up again and i had to restart it with reset button. But now i get a new more serious problem, just before the screen with the possibility to push del button to get into bios should shown up i get a 2 - 3 seconds tone from the mobo then the screen shown up with possibility to push del button to get into bios appear on my screen, then nothing happens, i cant get into bios, can not do anything. I have tried to clear cmos but nothing happens, i have even tried to pull off all the cabels to my hd:s off, still nothing happens, the only thing that is connected to my mobo is my dvd burner, my dvd rom, graphic card, wireless network card, sound card,scsi card but no cabels to the scsi hd. Pls help i need to get my computer run fast!!
My system is:
mobo K8N Neo4 Platinum
CPU: Athlon64 4000+
Graphic: Powercolor Ati radeon X850XT Platinum
Memory: 2X512mb corsair
hd ide: ibm 40gb
hd scsi: maxtor atlas 10k IV 36,4gb
scsi card: Tekram DC - 390U3W
Power: chiftec 360W 20pins
Dvd burner: Nec 3520
Dvd rom: Lite on 16x (dont remember model name)
Updated: I have fixed the problem with hanging at seconds after start up, i had to remove the battery and then pull it back. But still have the boot problems!!!

I checked the leds on the d-bracket and they dont show any problems. But i have to tell that when i pulled off the battery and then put it back into my mobo i dont know what happen, but now i have installed win xp on my scsi disc and it seems to work fine WHIIIIIIHAAAAAAA!!!!!

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I have one questions and one problem for you all:
Why do i have to disable CPU-spread spectrum to get the right PCI-clock ( if you believe ntune ) ?
Strange things happen??:
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Quote from: Assaf on 13-April-05, 04:39:15
Spread spectrum means the frequency is modulated (not constant) - so it will be measured differantly.
I don't see this as an issue, but why do you need it enabled anyway ?
The frequency thing is strange since Cool'n Quiet is disabled, maybe you have Core Center running and doing something to the frequency ?
Thanks for the reply.
Naturally i don't need the spread spectrum, but it was enabled by default and i was curious.
No, core center ( or something similar ) isn't running. Atm i don't want to change any frequencies, i just want to build it as stable as possible ( and fast, naturally ). And one other thing: seti is running quite well - it needs 2 to 2.5 hours to process a seti-work-unit - when the computer is running normal, but it slows down to about 1/3 of its speed when seti is running as screensaver, it needs 6 hours and more to complete one seti-work-unit. Isn't that exactly what Cool'nQuiet is doing ( among other things ) : reducing the clock speed to one third? :-(
Btw. in bios the ACPI Standby State is set to S1 ( i think that may be of interest ). I am running bios version 1.2
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Pals...
Don't get angry please and I am definitely sorry for not answering earlier but given the fact that I don't want the card to completely die on me (or the PC for what it's worth) I keep it turned off and when I need to do something on it, I turn it on for a short while (answering your messages for example).
As the zalman option you suggested, I must tell you that I live in Tierra del Fuego, Argentina, which is the southermost place on the earth. (Thank God We are 200 Kms away from Antarctica, so as it's VERY COLD here, I don't mind very much about getting external heat. Actually I am keeping my heaters fown so that the room doesn't get hot and BELIEVE ME when I say that it's cold in the room) Anyway, PC devices here are VERY hard to find since the best option os to buy them online in Buenos Aires (which is 3000 Kms away from my town) and the prices with shipping expenses and all make products extremely expensive, to such an extent that getting a new card is the best option. What's more, MOST of the coolers you are suggesting do not even EXIST here in Argentina. So, I had to try other alternatives to what you were suggesting, but since I cannot have my AVG card without a cooling system, I guess I'll have to decide on something. I have already discarded this Big device I asked you about as you all pointed out the fact that the noise will me madenning and what I am actually trying to avoid is to have MORE NOISE from fans from the ones I already have.
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I own a K8n Neo4 Platinum and when I changed the VGA from Nvidia 6600 GT to 8600 GTS the Mobo doesn't post anymore.. The usb diagnostig bracket says it's a memory problem but when I've put my memory banks on a different PC, they work just fine.
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In most OS, there is a difference between the kernel and the user. So, in most OS, the memory is divided in two 2Gb block (no matter how many Gb of Ram you really have!). The first one is for the OS, the 2nd for the user program.
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Quote from: fflex on 02-March-05, 19:21:07
That the comp turn itself on when the different front side connectors etc isnt in, i dont think that's a problem with ur PSU.
Same thing happend to me when i forgot to plug them in a couple of days ago. I got a Tagan 480W, and its flawless!
Have u ever considered unplugging everything, and doing it from the beginning? ......
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Quote from: Supershanks on 19-May-05, 21:45:00
Hi drjugears,
Welcome to the forum.
Many people are runnimg ok anyway as dope says.
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if you need a floppy boot disc see Why no floppy for bios flash?
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http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=641&kind=1
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See my screenshots for your info.

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