K8N Nforce 3 Motherboard Overheated and died, Argg!!!

Hi, apologees if this post seems long, but i would like to tell you everything i know to get the best possible advice.
Firstly i have the following hardware plugged into my "MSI K8N Neo Platinum Nforce3 250 SKT 754 SATA GIGBIT LAN 7.1 Sound Retail Box" :-
An AMD 3400+ 64bit 754 pin processor
1Gig DDR 400 ram (2 sticks)
Radeon 9600 XT Graphics Card
anouther 5.1 sound card (PCI)
A 120Gb IDE western digital hard disk
A 250Gb SATA western digital hard disk
IDE DVD-RW drive
Couple of USB devices running from the computer
Windows XP
All of the above are in a cheap computer case with a 500 Watt PSU.
The weirdest thing is that my motherboard has been working fine for a good year (it has been running all of the above for at least 4 months now). Then, a day ago I was working on my computer and must have stopped at about 10 pm to watch some TV, leaving the computer on behind me, monitor switched off. Please bare in mind the computer was left idle (running Windows XP, no screensaver).
Half an hour must have passed and the computer SUDDENLY switched off. I thought "hmm, odd" and, being the idiot i am, did not check for any kind of overheating before switching the computer back on. So i switched it back on for a couple of seconds, only to hear a horrible noise (god knows where that came from). Of course I then instantly tried to turn the computer off by holding the power switch, sadly nothing happened (motherboard didnt respond) .
And so i had to turn the PC off at the switch. I new something was seriously wrong at this point, and so i pulled the case side off and checked each and every heat sinked chip for overheating of any sort. Of course im not a human thermometer but after feeling each one i found that the Processor seemed to be at normal running temperature, as well as the RAM and graphics card sinks (the PSU was also fine). I then decided to feel the rather large goldlooking "MSI" heatsink on the motherboard...
That thing was seriously hot!!!!!
And so i left the PC for about half an hour to fully cool down. I now turn my PC on and all i get is a flashing power LED, on and off every second or so (obviously the motherboard is well and truly dead now). So, three questions,
1) I take it the motherboard is the device at fault?
2) Do you think any other components may have been broken whilst the board overheated? (i just dont want to get a new motherboard replacement and find that my pc still doesnt work, or even worse, my new motherboard dies) .
3) Has this happened to anyone else?
If you managed to read to the bottom of this post CONGRATS! If you manage to reply then
THANKYOU VERY MUCH

Quote from: kakarocht on 05-May-06, 11:37:19
Tried to bare boning with less hardware such as CPU+heatsink+vga+1*ram+good psu+kb+mouse. outside of casing and see any booting or not?
Well ive tried booting the motherboard just connected to the PSU, front panel (power LED, speaker and such) and processor (and fan). That gave me the flashing LED still . From my experience with other motherboards you can boot them with nothing in and still acheive beeps and such. Really the CPU fan should whirr in this scenario if it works, but it doesnt . I cant be overloading either PSU with this setup can I ??!

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