K8N Platinum Video and S-ATA issues

hey,
here is my problem: i bought some hardware 3 weeks ago, including:
A64 3800+ (Venice), MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum (MS-7125), Leadtek PX6800 GT TDH (265MB), Be Quiet! 450 Watt Titanium S1.3
in exchange for my old system (2500+, Abit K7N, ATi Radeon 9800SE AiW, 320W Enermax PSU)
the hardware change went great, had no errors after the exchange, windows xp (sp2) worked for 2 weeks. though, some things are errorous like the nForce eth being detected but no drivers installed, nForce raid not being detected - stuff like that probably resulting from a missing format c: and really clean install.
now things get quite strange. a friend of mine gave me 2 of his s-ata hdds (both maxtor, one 160gb and the other 200gb) - after plugging them onto the nforce s-ata raid, i was still able to get into the bios (at this time it was the biosversion the board shipped with) but the keyboard was locked (or the pc froze after entering the bios - can't tell for sure). unplugged the drives - and it was working again.
let's get to the main problem. after the problems above i thought "well, ok, let's reset the cmos, maybe i configured it wrong" so i shut down my pc and pushed the "clear cmos" button - then i did a normal boot, i heared the "beep", everything was just fine - but my TFT stayed black. i had a similar situation on my old board, so i disconnected the psu and removed the battery for 10 seconds. boot: display worked again. i immediately checked my bios (which was indeed resetted) but did not change anything. reboot -> black screen. now, the funny thing is.. the gfx card got 2 dvi and 1 s-video output (one dvi and s-video were connected) so i checked my tv - guess what, i saw the POST now i knew the board was "working" and my assumptions of which the black screen results in a crashed videocard/mobo were wrong. i sat there and watched windows xp boot up - and suddenly (after the xp vga drivers have been loaded i guess) my tft displays the image!
now this is VERY odd and tbh i really don't know what to say. anyways, i started msi liveupdate and downloaded/installed the latest official bios update (via winflash because i don't have a floppy anymore) to see if that might fix something. it didn't.
and now here i am, desperate and confused because i don't know whether or not it's a mobo or gfx issue - all i know is that it suddenly appeared after the cmos clear (sadly there's no "description" of whether you should press that button when the pc is shut off, psu is disconnected, mobo is running its post whatever) and i can't find a logical reason for this behaviour
to add another detail to the story, after i found out the video output was sent via s-video, i tried all combinations (dvi1 connected, dvi2 not, s-video not / dvi1 not, dvi2 connected, s-video not / dvi1 + 2 not, s-video connected / etc.) but the only source i can get the post from (until WinXP loads) is the s-video out.
i think maybe it could be the gfx card's bios, which loads up BEFORE the post begins (leadtek welcome screen, ram counts itself -> post -> os) but i'm not sure about it either
ANY help is very appreciated
*edit* i forgot to mention: it worked before! after hitting this nifty little button, the display problems began...

Quote from: Supershanks on 03-June-05, 20:24:49
Hi llamalein,
Welcome to the forum.
thx
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1) Your monitor issue is not uncommon see Syar's post hereWon't boot, please help.
thanks, i'll try it as soon as i'm at home though i'm quite sure it wont work
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3) Exactly which K8N Platinum have you I know it's a 939 but Neo4(7 versions) or neo2(2-4 versions)
yarr, i am so worried i already forget to post the right specs it's the K8N Neo4 Platinum (MS-7125) (as described here
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4) Please post your full specs - we don't know what your OS is currently running on what optical drives - look arounf the forum for the format. also include the amps on the 3.3v,5v,12v rails for your power supplyu.
PSU data (as supplied by the manufacturer):
# 3,3V: 28A
# 5V: 45A
# 12V: 22A
# -5V:: 0.8A
# -12V:: 1.0A
# 5Vsb:: 2.5A
HDDs:
ide1m - Samsung SP1614N
ide1s - Samsung SP1614N
ide2m - Plextor DVD Burner
IDE Controller:
ide3m - Samsung SP1614N
ide3s - Some old Western Digital HDD (80/7200)
(m = master, s = slave)
WXPP is located on ide1m

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As a test beg/borrow/steal another graphics card (preferably nvidia) and see how it goes so you can narrow in on your video card.
It is not just one game, but it is more prodominate in certain games than others... the game in question here is Planetside... though I stuck a demo of Unreal Tournament 2004 on a loop bot match and it seemed to have locked up after 4 hours (not sure how many times it experienced that 5-10 freeze as I went to bed). As for the video card it was KNOWN working from a previous build in those same games (Previous build was a AMDXP3000 and a Abit NF7-S nForce2 motherboard). The only components different in this build is the AMD64, the MSI Neo2 K8N, 2 new sticks of Corsair XMS to replace the Corsair ValueSelects, and the SB Audigy2 as I would never use a software codec audio solution. Spread Spectrum is LOCKED in BIOS and disabled... ATI/nVidia speed up was disabled from the start... and I tried the Video Card at default clock, over clocked, as well as under clocked and the same issue resulted... as I said before it is NOT the video card.
There are two other things I could try is use my old Geforce4ti 4200 and see what happens... or even try out WindowsXP 64-bit edition as someone earlier suggested. I wish I could find a new BIOS for my XFX 6800NU, but there there is only the revision 1 BIOS that I was able to find. The mystery continues...
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