K8N - problems - cmos, floppys, constant power

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Athlon 64 - 3200 - Retail Box Unit with heatsink and fan
MSI - K8N Neo2 Mobo
Crucial Value Select - PC3200 - 1 gig
Hitachi - SATA - 250 gig
Plextor - DVD Burner
Mad Dog Surepower - 450w power supply
Antec - Superlan boy Case
1. First of all I cannot use the power button on the case to turn the computer on. If i turn the power button on located on the back of the PSU the computer turns on and stays on.
2. Every time I power the computer on I recieve a "CMOS CHECKSUM ERROR". If I power the computer on and off again the D-bracket indicator suggests the CPU is damaged or not installer properly. I reset the bios with the JBAT1 jumper. If I turn the power on again it starts to boot and reports cmos checkup error all over again. I took the battery out to clear CMOS. I changed values in the BIOS and choose the option to save the settings. The same thing accurs. If you disable the floppy in the bios the machine will boot up with checksum error. I have to install a floppy in the PC to load the SATA drivers in XP during the booting of the CD.
3. The D-bracket LEDs indicates "Initializing Floppy Drive Controller" when I have it enabled.
What could the problem be? Is the integrated floppy controller bad on the motherboard? This has been an absolute nightmare. I have taken every component out and reseated. I have done everything that I can possible think of...
So again two things - everytime it is powered down - I have to reset JBAT1 to make it boot and second if I leave the floppy drive enabled in the bios I get a CMOS checksum error.
If I disable the floppy in the bios it boots fine. I need the floppy drive to make the SATA drive to work.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
First D-BRACKET says bad processor. I reset JBAT1 - it mysteriously starts to post, etc.

I disconnected the front panel USB. I honestly dont have a USB keyboard handy. I booted without the keyboard however and it still hung in the same place stating checksum error and the d-bracket point to the floppy controller again.
Good point concerning memory controller integration.
Thank you very much for the suggestions. It's all so bizarre. I may have to call New Egg and ship this board and processor back for a replacement...
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Originally posted by Supershanks
1) Are your Front Panel Usb Leads connected to the Mobo header?
If yes disconnect them for now there are sometimes issues with incompatable wiring leading to errors.
2) Are you using a PS2 keyboard PS2 keyboard/mouse causes random shutdowns or doesnt work The "Initializing Floppy Drive Controller" Can be eroneoneus and equally indicate the Keyboard. see if the num lock led comes on. if you have access to a usb k/board use that. youll have to change the bios if you can
3) If you can get into Bios Go into the 1st screen & change the Detection to Large from auto, if the HD is not detected.
4) Power Button - Try reversing the plug in Mobo. Least of problems
Other Checks - Check Memory Seataing
Wiring Is 4Pin 12v Lead Plugged in
As the Memory controller is on the CPU with amd64 The bad priocessor error can pooint to a variety of things
luck

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