K8N SLI and onboard PCIE_PW1 connection

Does anyone know if I need to connect the power to the onboard "PCIE_PW1" if i have already connected power directly to my 6800gs card? The power connection from my psu to the 6800gs card is specifically for a pci express graphics card so im presuming its getting enough power..... The power supply is a hiper 580 Type R
Thanks In advance
Mrlargeit

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MSI Reminds You...
• All power connectors, ATX1 (24 Pin) & JPW1 (4 Pin, for CPU Power) & PCIE_PW1 (4 pin, for PCI-E VGA) must be attached to this model to ensure operation of the Mainboard. • A Power Supply of 450 watts, or above, is highly recommended for system stability.
• ATX 12V power connection should be 20A or greater.
this is from the mobo.
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GeForce 6800 GS
Systems Requirement :
Pentium®4, AMD® Athlon® or compatible CPU
128MB system memory
PCI-Express slot
Installation software requires CD-ROM drive
DVD playback requires DVD-ROM drive
System power supply with minimum 350W or higher
For SLI configuration, power supply with minimum 480W (+12V, 30A)
One hard disk drive power dongle or PCI-E supplmentary power connector.
this is from the graphics card.
so it looks to me that you just have to plug the one on the mobo and not the one on your graphic card.

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http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=641
While the Neo4 Platinum has two.
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8N_Neo4_Platinum/SLI&class=mb
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Yes I'm sure its back at 200MHz ie PC3200 but I don't know why the numbers are low. What else would you recommend that I use for benchmarking memory?
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