K8n won't boot off ATA drive

So with all this talk of unlocked SATA busses limiting o/c, and my frustration getting the bus over 240 with 5:6 (or even 2:3), or 225 with 1:1 I thought I'd give using an old ATA drive a shot.
But the board won't boot off it.
I've tried several installs of XP, formated clean for fat or ntfs, clean or quick, each time after windows copies over all the files and does it's first reboot, the board can't find the OS on the HD.
NTFS and FAT give slightly different error messages but the error is something like can't find operating system, or bad operating system.
Not your can't find ntldr or anything that would look software related.
I even moved the hd from the computer back to my main rig after one of these installs, and it went right into the install program where it shoulld have been.
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yeah I ain't no newb.
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I'm on primary master in this box, I rejumpered the drive for my main box as it's a secondary slave there.
2nd boot device is set to HD (after floppy #1) and in the HD boot order menu it shows only this drive and external card.
It's completely bizarre
well it seems more people have these problems. Since I haven't tried yet I wouldn't know what's the trick behind this. Will let ye know more in 2 weeks orso when my exams are past tense

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