K8NGM2-FID accessories

at the bottom of the MSI site decribing the K8NGM2 series are two optional back panel I/O ports listed. Try as i might i can not find the "DVI port".
Is that accessory really available and will that provide an extra dvi port on a K8NGM2-FID. Extra as in addition to the DVI port already on the back panel.
Sounds strange to me. The optional dvi port would require either using a PCIe x1 slot or one of the PCI slots, unless some where on the board are pins that allow some kind of hook up to the on board vide. Just doesn't make sense to me.

That is only available for the board the has the nVidia 6150 chipset. In this case, the only version that has this option is the K8NGM2-FID. You must be misunderstanding the product page, there is no additional DVI port or accessory adapter.
That listing found here: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=702
Verbatim:
Back Panel I/O Ports
- 1 x Parallel
- 1 x PS/2 Keyboard
- 1 x PS/2 Mouse
- 1 x VGA
- 1 x DVI port (optional) <6150 Only
- 1 x IEEE1394 port (optional)
- 1 x Audio I/O (Line-in/Line-out/MIC)
- 4 x USB 2.0
- 1 x RJ45 LAN Jack
That is all.
I looked at the manual as well there is no mention of an additional DVI interface or bracket whatsoever.
Again, I think this must be a misunderstanding.

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K8NGM2-FID problems: no usb and high cpu usage - HELP!

hi folks,
i've setup K8NGM2-FID inside an htpc with a clean install of mce 2005 (onboard video). For the past couple of days I've noticed a few things:
1) if the pc goes into standby (S3) and then wakes up, sometimes task manager shows a cpu usage of 50% (on the graph) but looking at the list of tasks (for all users) nothing is runing that high - in fact system idle process shows 98% (while the graph is still showing about 50%) and the system is a bit sluggish; reboot fixes this but it's getting really annoying. I've installed the latest AMD x2 driver. Sometimes it goes to 98-99% after waking up but that's been rare.
2) i've been getting a few BSODs lately, actually all started yesterday - 3 of them in a span of about 2 hours after insalling Nero. I'm going to try to figure out what is causing it that (proabably Nero - I hope since that's easy to undo) but what i've noticed is that when the system reboots after the blue screen, none of the USB devices work (i.e. keyboard, mouse, etc.). windows has to load, then I need to go in the back and unplug/replug the usb devices which then 'wakes' them up; this can get really annoying in a typical cramped home theater setup. software restarts seem to be good - ok hardware restarts are the problem. hooking things up to a usb hub has the same effect - i.e. I need to re-plug the hub to get them to work - it just means less things to plug/unplug.
has anyone else noticed this? help save my sanity - this is driving me crazy. since this is an mce setup, it goes into sleep and wakes up several times a day so the high cpu issue when it comes up really gets in the way of using the pc. btw. during high cpu times, no mce related function (record/watch/the shell itself) is running.
here's my setup:
K8NGM2-FID - boots up with 3 short beeps - I think it's 1 beep pause then 2 beeps
2 gigs kingston 3 CAS (2 x 1 GIG kit) pc3200 - boot screen shows it running at 400mhz in dual channel config
X2 3800+ stock fan/heatsink with silver 5 (runs around 35-38 idle - inside a silverstone 'stereo rack' case)
ms usb keyboard/mouse/mce remote
coolmax 550W power
3 140GB WD drives (ata 133 - not sata)
onboard video - framebuffer set to 128megs
latest (as of 2 days ago) nvidia and msi drivers - msi bios is the stock 3.0 (more on that later)
the bios settings are all default as far as I can tell.
pvr-150 tuner card
promise ata 100 card
nec 3500dvd
all running on mce 2005 with rollup 2 and all the updates windows could find
i haven't updated the bios because i've read about other folks having blue screen problems and the suggestion has been to up the voltage for the ram (I guess the default setup from MSI is lower than it should be) but apparently that option is missing from the 3.1 and later bioses? and reading the text file, it wasn't very apparent what the bios 3.1 was fixing other than a few cosmetic bootup texts. I'm planning to up the voltage later today.
anyhow, any suggestions short of throwing the entire pc out the door are welcomed.
thanks!

ok here's what I've found about the high cpu...
using process explorer, hardware interrups is taking all the cpu. i've tried to disable items one by one but nothing is working so far. what does work is if i choose scan for new hardware, cpu goes down to normal. standby and resume and cpu is up again. do the scan and it goes down again - without changing anything.
i've re-installed the graphic board driver, nvidia 430 drivers, sound driver. not sure what else to do. checked my drives and they are all properly master/slave set.
this is really getting crazy...anyone come across this?
i'm a bit hesitant to go to bios 3.1 since i've seen lots of posts about BSOD and i've just gotten rid of that.
thanks
thanks a bunch!

K8NGM2-FID: bad PCI-e x16 slot on motherboard?

Computer boots fine, but I do no get any video output when booting from a PCI-e graphics card. I've tried 2 eVGA GeForce 7600GS cards and 1 PNY 7300GT and they all have the same problem. Components and detailed description are below. I assume my motherboard's PCI-e slot is bad, but don't want to RMA it unless I have to (don't want to be without it for 2-3 weeks).
Components:
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 2000MHz
MSI K8NGM2-FID micro-ATX
2x512MB Corsair ValueSelect PC3200
Onboard GeForce 6150 / eVGA 7600GS / PNY 7300GT
Samsung SP0822N IDE 80 GB Boot Drive
2x Samsung SP2504C SATA 250 GB in Raid 0
Samsung IDE SH-S162L/BEBN DVD R/W
SeaSonic S12 380W Power Supply (+3.3V@22A, +5V@21A, +12V1@10A, +12V2@15A, [email protected], +5VSB@2A)
Hauppauge PVR-500 Dual TV Tuner (PCI)
Vbox Cat's Eye DTA-150 HDTV Tuner (PCI)
D-Link Wireless G USB adapter
Windows Media Center Edition 2005
Detailed Description:
eVGA 7600GS: Before purchasing the PCI-e video card I was using the onboard GeForce 6150 graphics via DVI. I went into the BIOS and selected [PCI Express] as the Primary Graphics Adapter and [Disable OnChip VGA if have PCIe VGA]. I then installed the video card and hooked it up to the monitor via DVI. The computer booted fine, but I got no video feed from the video card. I reseated the card and restarted a few more times but still got no picture. I hooked the DVI cable back up to the onboard graphics and got a normal video feed. The heatsink on the video card was warm so I know it’s getting power. I gave up for awhile and shut down the computer. Awhile later I booted the computer back up and I didn't get any video from the onboard graphics. So I plugged the DVI cable back into the video card and restarted, and I got a video feed! The add new hardware wizard appeared and installed. I restarted the computer later that night, and once again I got no video feed via the video card. I hooked the DVI cable back to the onboard graphics and I got a video feed. I have not been able to get any video feed from the video card ever since.
2nd eVGA 7600GS: I returned the video card to the store and got an identical replacement. I have not been able to get any video feed on this video card either. I have tried enabling [Both exist and OnChip VGA by frame buffer select] in the BIOS and that didn't help. I hooked up a monitor via DVI to the onboard graphics and a monitor via VGA to the video card (and vice-versa), and only the onboard graphics displayed anything. I unhooked nearly all components - USB devices, PCI cards, additional Hard Drives etc. and still could not get a video output from the card. I have reseated the card many times. It’s almost like the motherboard is not detecting that a PCI Express video card is installed. The Device Manager only shows the GeForce 6150 Display Adapter. eVGA suggests a 400 Watt Power Supply, and I only have a 380 Watt PSU.
PNY 7300GT: Installed and went into the BIOS, made sure everything was correct and rebooted. I got a video feed from the card, but when windows detected new hardware, the computer froze so I had to restart. I have not been able to get video output from the card ever since. Card only requires a 300W power supply with 12V rating of 20A or more.
I've been using this motherboard for about 8 months without any problems until I tried installing a PCI-e video card. So, do you think it's my motherboard or something else?

Quote from: TheBigMan on 19-October-06, 07:57:01
Try this:
Go into BIOS to 'Advanced Chipset Features' and in:
'Primary Graphics Adapter' -> PCI Express
'OnChip and PCIe VGA Selection' -> Disable OnChip VGA if have PCIe VGA
'OnChip VGA Frame Buffer Size' -> Disable
'OnChip VGA Trap' -> Disable
See if it helps...
Be well....
Yes, I've tried all that except setting the OnChip VGA Frame Buffer Size to Disable. I just tried that and I couldn't get a video feed via the PCI-e VGA or the onboard graphics, so I had to reset the CMOS.

K8NGM2-FID onboard video won't go to DVI in XP

System is:
K8NGM2-FID
BIOS 3.4
Onboard video using 128 MB memory off motherboard
Athlon 64 x2 3800+
2 GB (2 x 1GB) RAM Patriot PDC2G3200LLK 2-3-2-5
Case Antec Sonata II w/PSU Antec Smartpower 2.0 450W dual 12V (15A/17A)
HDD Seagate ST316012A Barracuda 7200.9 160 GB
OS WinXP SP2 auto updated
This system has run 24/7 for about 5 months using onboard video driving a Samsung SyncMaster 940t thru the onboard DVI port.
I am using the DVI (digital) onboard video output to drive my monitor. Recently I have experienced blank screens when waking up from monitor power down (20 minute w/o activity - no screensaver, just auto power down). When I connect a VGA (analog) cable from the onboard connector to the monitor's analog input the video is there but not present on DVI (digital) output of board. Otherwise the machine is still completely functional, just no DVI video output.
Rebooting, the video signal is present on BOTH connectors (DVI and VGA) up to the point when Windows loads the desktop (i.e., past Windows boot screens), then it switches to VGA ONLY.
If I power down and wait 3-4 hours, the DVI will continue to work after Windows loads the desktop, then will not return after the monitor powers down due to inactivity (20 minutes, set in properties - screen saver) OR a warm reboot OR a power cycle. Switching to the VGA (analog) output, the video is still there and system is running as before, but with analog video only, no DVI (digital). This occurs with two other monitors that have dual inputs (HP and Viewsonic).
Video drivers are from MSI and are the current Version 8205 - (8.2.0.5 on device manager screen) but BIOS is 3.4. BIOS update 3.4->3.5->3.6 notes do not mention any DVI issues so I am hesitant to flash to 3.6 (current version) as I do not think it will fix the problem.
Bringing up nVidia Nview desktop manager, it 'sees' the monitor but there is no mention of DVI or VGA interface or way to switch between them. If I hook up a TV to the Svideo output it 'sees' that as well as the monitor and I can switch between them.
Does anyone know of a way to explicitly direct signal to either of the onboard video connectors (DVI and VGA) connector on this board (K8NGM2-FID)?
Any other ideas?
Thanks in advance,
ss

I fixed the system.
However, I still don't know the root cause of the original problem.
The missing piece of the fix was doing an uninstall of the video device drivers using the Control Panel 'Add or Remove Programs' function. Prior to that I was just updating things using either the package's native installers or the Device Manager Update Driver function.
After the uninstall I did a clean install of the MSI drivers off a CD and now have selectable digital and/or analog displays in Windows XP. Also, the nvidia drivers DO work, provided they are installed on a 'clean' suystem (thanks, Stu). Installing either driver set as an update results in unstable output - sometimes digital, sometimes analog.
Moral of the story: clean up toothpaste before squeezing the tube again.
ss

K8NGM2-FID / MS-7207 - Unable to install WinXP

K8NGM2-FID / MS-7207 - Unable to install WinXP
Problem: When attempting to install Windows XP Professional (original version prior to SP2 release), the system either hangs after the second reboot (when attempting to load for the first time) or blue-screens at some point during the initial setup (segment fault.)
System Description:
AMD ATHLON 64 X2 3800+ - MANCHESTER (dual core)
MSI K8NGM2-FID nVIDIA GeForce 6150 CHIPSET
CRUCIAL 2GB (2 x 1024MB) PC3200 400MHZ CL3 184-PIN DDR DIMM(s)
400W ps - Sparkle
no floppy, nothing fancy, no PCI cards, stock system
bios ver: 2.59 (I need winxp installed so I can use the live bios update)
I am not overclocking.
Details:
Tested with three different UltraATA IDE harddrives, capacities from 13.6 - 40 GB.
Tested with two different 80-conductor Ultra ATA cables.
I'm unable to get through a Windows XP installation. I've eliminated the harddrive or cable as the culprit by testing with more than one KG component. I can successfully boot from a Knoppix 4 live CD and the system will run overnight like that.
Does this motherboard not like UltraATA IDE drives? I don't have any SATA drives to test an installation with.
I ordered the Motherboard/CPU/Memory as a pre-tested kit.
UPDATE:
Flash bios to 3.4 using A7207nms.340 from msi web site. Did _not_ solve issue. Also noted that when attempting to load WinXP in Safe Mode the last thing I see on the screen is loading Mup.sys then I get the PAGE_FAULT_IN_NOPAGED_AREA blue screen.

> This error can be caused by a power supply that's too weak.
I researched the power supply prior to the purchase, selecting one that was reported by another person to work with the board. I have spare KG supplies that I can test with though.
> Also, can you try with one dimm? Test your RAM with memtest86 to make sure
> it's okay.
I removed one of the sticks, checked bios to ensure system corrected the RAM count, and then started over with the WinXP installation, which still resulted in PAGE_FAULT_IN_NOPAGED_AREA near completion.
> By the way: don't flash your bios with the LiveUpdate utility. Always
> flash bios in DOS mode, preferably using a CD.
Okay, I will go ahead and update the bios with the DOS utility.
> Also, why do you want to flash bios? If all works when Windows is
> installed, flashing your board can cause problems you don't have now.
Often, with a mobo updating the bios will allow windows to detect mobo resources it was unable to do before. The manufacturer most often ships prior to all the bugs being worked out of the bios. PC builders and vendors recommend using the latest stable bios.
Although there is something to be said for "If it's not broke, don't fix it. However, mine is broke to begin with. If I have to RMA this board, I will not be exchanging it for an identical model, or another MSI board.
> Edit: what other hardware do you use? Videocard, opticals, etc.
Video is onboard. Everything is pretty stock. The keyboard and mouse are on a test bench that gets used for dozens of other systems.
I have to say I long for the simple standardized motherboards of the past. I don't mind setting jumpers but I am not impressed with the inferior quality and overwhelming diversity in today's computer hardware.
ty

K8NGM2-FID MOBO Keeps beeping in Windows

Hi, I've had this mobo/pc for 2 years, and it all of a sudden the mobo pc speaker started beeping while Windows is loaded.
Temperature isn't an issue, I checked several times.
I formated the harddrive and tried to install windows again, and it started beeping while it was installing. I doesn't beep in DOS mode(the first stage of XP install).
I have a EVGA 6800GS video card, 1gig of ram, 200g hard drive, 400watt power supply. The PC has been running great for 2 years till about a month ago when this started happening.
Please help.

Sorry,
- MSI K8NGM2-FID 939 NVIDIA GeForce 6150 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
- AMD 64 3700+ ATHLON 64 939P
- Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L200M0 200GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 1.5Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
- Patriot Signature Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory
- EVGA 256-P2-N386-AX GeForce 6800GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card
- LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner with Replaceable White Front Pane
- APEVIA X-QPACK-NW-AL/420 Black/ Silver Aluminum MicroATX Desktop Computer Case 420W Power Supply

K8NGM2-FID dumb question i am sure . SLI available?

I dont plan on using SLI since i am not a gamer or overclocker. I am curious if SLI on the K8NGM2-FID is available so i can make sure i turn it off.
got a feeling that this is a really dumb questions. but i really like this board for my needs, just now.
thanks .

SLI is not available as there is only one PCI-E 16X slot

K8NGM2-FID & Zalman 7700CU (120mm) HSF

Hi,
Does anyone know if the Zalman 7700-Cu (120mm) heatsink & fan will fit K8NGM2-FID motherboard, this is an especially BIG HSF and is known to be in-compatible with cetain mobo's.
TIA
ManC

ManC,
While it is a large cooler, the design gives you a very goof chance of getting it to fit most Mobos:
When you look at the compatibility list:
CNPS7700 Compatible Socket 754/939/940 Motherboard List
It is not on the list, but it is not on the incompatible list either.
When you look at the Socket 939 on the Mobo, it looks like there is a very good chance it will fit:
Take Care,
Richard

K8NGM2-FID USB Headers Question

It seems as if the pins on the USB headers on the K8NGM2-FID don't correspond to the order of the wires in the front panel connectors on my Antec case. The Antec manual claims that the order of the wires is "standard". Am I in danger of frying the motherboard if I connect the wrong wires to the wrong pins? Is there a solution other than getting a different cable? Thanks in advance for your help...

Quote from: yusufadam on 24-January-06, 17:27:41
Yes you may damage the motherboard and also the USB device that you connect. I'm talking from experience. USB connections are standard. Is your USB cable plugged or are there individual wires.
It's plugged, and the wires/holes are labeled using different terms than those used in the MSI manual. I'm at work and the mobo is at home, so I can't provide an exact cite right now.

K8NGM2-FID : can a DVI-I plug can be plugged into the motherboard DVI-D plug ?

Hello,
I intend to buy a flat panel for the MSI K8NGM2-FID motherboard. Can the screen DVI-I plug can be plugged into the motherboard DVI-D plug ?
Thanks.

Quote from: passionne on 31-January-06, 23:59:24
OK, thanks. I was not able to modify the RAM voltage beforehand, since I pressed the "enter" key first.
But, now that I have applied 2.6 V, I don't know how to make the RAM work at 400 Mhz. Indeed, CPUz shows me that it runs at 333 Mhz.
In the chipset configuration, I can change the RAM frequency but the allowable values are 100, 133 and 166 Mhz. Not 200 Mhz.
And I noticed that the command rate is 2T. I changed it to 1T and no boot. I was forced to clear CMOS.
I looked at the RAM specifications (http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator/PartsInfo.asp?ktcpartno=KVR400X64C25/512) but it is not told if these DIMMs can run at 400 Mhz, 1T.
Would you have an idea ?
Thanks.
I use A64 3700+ with Corsair XMS 1G x 2. All RAM setting is auto and CPUz read 200MHz (3-3-3-8). RAM is at 2.6V
May be you can try using auto RAM setting and slightly increase the RAM voltage to 2.65V or 2.7V. If it work, you may try other custom RAM setting.

K8NGM2-FID external graphics card performance

Hello
I read on http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/msi-k8ngm2-fid/index06.htm that the performance using an external video card with the K8NGM2-FID is inferior to other boards.
Is this true?
Best regards
Andreas

I would look at another site since they are stating "BOTH" boards they have tested with the 6150 chipset have performance issues.
They have only tested two 6150 chipset boards, the others they are comparing it to are the 6100 chipset boards.
It may have nothing to do with MSI.

Is the K8NGM2-FID still purchasable?

Hello guys,
As it is written in the title I'm looking for the K8NGM2-FID motherboard.
I had no success with any of the European retailers. The card is no longer in supply here.
Does anyone know good addresses (in the US or even Taiwan) where to find it?
Or should I start considering the second hand market?
Thanks for the help.
Killoux
By the way I've been reading this forum for a while now, it is a gold mine!
Bravo

Killoux, I'm just in the process of buying one. I live in BC Canada and up until last month it was available here, the wholesaler on the other side of the country had three in stock - waiting to hear if they are still on shelf.

Cooler with heatpipes for K8NGM2-FID

I someone has installed a cooler on this mother board K8NGM2-FID sure would like to know the brand and model. Also any problems or recommendations?
thanks
MSI K8NGM2-FID
2000 pro . sp4
xfx 6600GT
antecrx 640b sp400
amd 939+3700 single layer
Emprex dual layer cd dvd r/w
floppy
2x120 ide maxtor
corsair 2x512
3 dell 1905 FP protait mode
P4C800 deluxe p4 chip
2000 pro . sp4
everthing else about the same
except 4 dell 1905FP
pny 5500 dual port analog agp
and another one PCI dual port

Do you mean CPU-cooler ??
If so, Thermalright XP-90 works with most boards and is easy to install.
Weight only 360g.
Add a 90mm fan on top.
They sell them both with and without fans.
http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_product_xp90_p4.htm
http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_support_faq_motherboard_xp90.htm

SPDIF Bracket for MSI K8NGM2-FID

Hello,
I have been searching on the Internet for a place where I can purchase the SPDIF 3-pin bracket for the MSI K8NGM2-FID. I have probably checked every search result on google, but NOWHERE can I find this item! Does ANYBODY have an idea where I can buy the optional 3-pin SPDIF bracket for this board?
Thanks in advance,
RA

those are available from several places. i see the quetion often on various forum s. It would not be msi unique . it is just a matter of knowing the output and number of pins available on your board.
try these siteshttp://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?&threadid=55195
http://www.compusa.com/
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5859743950&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT
www.buy.com
http://estore.asus.com/shop/features.asp
hope this helps

Clone TV+VGA K8NGM2-FID GeForce6150

Hello,
i bought a K8NGM2-FID GeForce 6150 for my HTPC. There is a Touchdisplay(vga) in my case.
Now i want to use the TV-out and the VGA-out in Clone-Mode.
But in nview Option i can only switch between TV or VGA, Clone isn't selectable.
I tried the newest driver 81.98 and the newest beta 82.12
IDEA?

Hi, This is info that I found researching this board [thinking about buying one]
Quote
. GeForce 6150 II. Multiple Monitors & TV Support
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Supported Configurations by Onboard Video
The following combinations are supported in DualView mode:
digital monitor (onboard DVI) + analog monitor (onboard VGA)
digital monitor (onboard DVI) + TV (onboard TV out)
Non-Supported Configurations by Onboard Video
As GeForce 6150 has only one RAMDAC (Random Access Memory Digital/Analog Converter) and hence two analog outs are impossible, the following combinations are not supported:
analog monitor (onboard DVI) + analog monitor (onboard VGA). (First of all connecting an analog monitor to onboard DVI is physically impossible because the onboard DVI connector is DVI-D that lacks 4-pin holes and hence a DVI to VGA adapter cannot be used.)
analog monitor (onboard VGA) + TV (onboard TV out). (Note that signals from onboard TV out are analog.)
Supported Configurations by Onboard Video + Dual-Head PCI-Express Video Card
The following combinations are supported in QuadrupleView mode:
monitor (video card) + monitor (video card)+ digital monitor (onboard DVI) + analog monitor (onboard VGA)
monitor (video card) + monitor (video card)+ digital monitor (onboard DVI) + TV (onboard TV out)
Remarks
In the above configurations, the video card is restricted to the nVIDIA brand. If you disable onboard video in BIOS, you can use an ATI video card.
Monitors can be used either landscape mode (default) or portrait mode. To change mode, right click NVIDIA Settings in the system tray, then choose "GPU name (Display #)" > Rotation Settings > Rotate 0, 90, 180, 270 degree.
The description of TV Setup in pages B6 to B8 of Quick User's Guide is wrong (referring to ATI software!). Please download the latest manual from MSI Global site.
The rest of the info can be found here http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=29&threadid=1803985&enterthread=y along with there assessment of other 6150 based m/b

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