K8NGM2-FID / MS-7207 - Unable to install WinXP

K8NGM2-FID / MS-7207 - Unable to install WinXP
Problem:  When attempting to install Windows XP Professional (original version prior to SP2 release), the system either hangs after the second reboot (when attempting to load for the first time) or blue-screens at some point during the initial setup (segment fault.)
System Description: 
AMD ATHLON 64 X2 3800+ - MANCHESTER (dual core)
MSI K8NGM2-FID nVIDIA GeForce 6150 CHIPSET
CRUCIAL 2GB (2 x 1024MB) PC3200 400MHZ CL3 184-PIN DDR DIMM(s)
400W ps - Sparkle
no floppy, nothing fancy, no PCI cards, stock system
bios ver: 2.59 (I need winxp installed so I can use the live bios update)
I am not overclocking.
Details:
Tested with three different UltraATA IDE harddrives, capacities from 13.6 - 40 GB.
Tested with two different 80-conductor Ultra ATA cables.
I'm unable to get through a Windows XP installation.  I've eliminated the harddrive or cable as the culprit by testing with more than one KG component.  I can successfully boot from a Knoppix 4 live CD and the system will run overnight like that.
Does this motherboard not like UltraATA IDE drives?  I don't have any SATA drives to test an installation with.
I ordered the Motherboard/CPU/Memory as a pre-tested kit.
UPDATE:
Flash bios to 3.4 using A7207nms.340 from msi web site.  Did _not_ solve issue.  Also noted that when attempting to load WinXP in Safe Mode the last thing I see on the screen is loading Mup.sys then I get the PAGE_FAULT_IN_NOPAGED_AREA blue screen.

> This error can be caused by a power supply that's too weak.
I researched the power supply prior to the purchase, selecting one that was reported by another person to work with the board.  I have spare KG supplies that I can test with though.
> Also, can you try with one dimm? Test your RAM with memtest86 to make sure
> it's okay.
I removed one of the sticks, checked bios to ensure system corrected the RAM count, and then started over with the WinXP installation, which still resulted in PAGE_FAULT_IN_NOPAGED_AREA near completion.
> By the way: don't flash your bios with the LiveUpdate utility. Always
> flash bios in DOS mode, preferably using a CD.
Okay, I will go ahead and update the bios with the DOS utility.
> Also, why do you want to flash bios? If all works when Windows is
> installed, flashing your board can cause problems you don't have now.
Often, with a mobo updating the bios will allow windows to detect mobo resources it was unable to do before.  The manufacturer most often ships prior to all the bugs being worked out of the bios.  PC builders and vendors recommend using the latest stable bios.
Although there is something to be said for "If it's not broke, don't fix it.  However, mine is broke to begin with. If I have to RMA this board, I will not be exchanging it for an identical model, or another MSI board.
> Edit: what other hardware do you use? Videocard, opticals, etc.
Video is onboard.  Everything is pretty stock.  The keyboard and mouse are on a test bench that gets used for dozens of other systems. 
I have to say I long for the simple standardized motherboards of the past.  I don't mind setting jumpers but I am not impressed with the inferior quality and overwhelming diversity in today's computer hardware.
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