K8NGM2-FID USB Headers Question

It seems as if the pins on the USB headers on the K8NGM2-FID don't correspond to the order of the wires in the front panel connectors on my Antec case. The Antec manual claims that the order of the wires is "standard". Am I in danger of frying the motherboard if I connect the wrong wires to the wrong pins? Is there a solution other than getting a different cable? Thanks in advance for your help...

Quote from: yusufadam on 24-January-06, 17:27:41
Yes you may damage the motherboard and also the USB device that you connect. I'm talking from experience. USB connections are standard. Is your USB cable plugged or are there individual wires.
It's plugged, and the wires/holes are labeled using different terms than those used in the MSI manual. I'm at work and the mobo is at home, so I can't provide an exact cite right now.

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K8NGM2-FID problems: no usb and high cpu usage - HELP!

hi folks,
i've setup K8NGM2-FID inside an htpc with a clean install of mce 2005 (onboard video). For the past couple of days I've noticed a few things:
1) if the pc goes into standby (S3) and then wakes up, sometimes task manager shows a cpu usage of 50% (on the graph) but looking at the list of tasks (for all users) nothing is runing that high - in fact system idle process shows 98% (while the graph is still showing about 50%) and the system is a bit sluggish; reboot fixes this but it's getting really annoying. I've installed the latest AMD x2 driver. Sometimes it goes to 98-99% after waking up but that's been rare.
2) i've been getting a few BSODs lately, actually all started yesterday - 3 of them in a span of about 2 hours after insalling Nero. I'm going to try to figure out what is causing it that (proabably Nero - I hope since that's easy to undo) but what i've noticed is that when the system reboots after the blue screen, none of the USB devices work (i.e. keyboard, mouse, etc.). windows has to load, then I need to go in the back and unplug/replug the usb devices which then 'wakes' them up; this can get really annoying in a typical cramped home theater setup. software restarts seem to be good - ok hardware restarts are the problem. hooking things up to a usb hub has the same effect - i.e. I need to re-plug the hub to get them to work - it just means less things to plug/unplug.
has anyone else noticed this? help save my sanity - this is driving me crazy. since this is an mce setup, it goes into sleep and wakes up several times a day so the high cpu issue when it comes up really gets in the way of using the pc. btw. during high cpu times, no mce related function (record/watch/the shell itself) is running.
here's my setup:
K8NGM2-FID - boots up with 3 short beeps - I think it's 1 beep pause then 2 beeps
2 gigs kingston 3 CAS (2 x 1 GIG kit) pc3200 - boot screen shows it running at 400mhz in dual channel config
X2 3800+ stock fan/heatsink with silver 5 (runs around 35-38 idle - inside a silverstone 'stereo rack' case)
ms usb keyboard/mouse/mce remote
coolmax 550W power
3 140GB WD drives (ata 133 - not sata)
onboard video - framebuffer set to 128megs
latest (as of 2 days ago) nvidia and msi drivers - msi bios is the stock 3.0 (more on that later)
the bios settings are all default as far as I can tell.
pvr-150 tuner card
promise ata 100 card
nec 3500dvd
all running on mce 2005 with rollup 2 and all the updates windows could find
i haven't updated the bios because i've read about other folks having blue screen problems and the suggestion has been to up the voltage for the ram (I guess the default setup from MSI is lower than it should be) but apparently that option is missing from the 3.1 and later bioses? and reading the text file, it wasn't very apparent what the bios 3.1 was fixing other than a few cosmetic bootup texts. I'm planning to up the voltage later today.
anyhow, any suggestions short of throwing the entire pc out the door are welcomed.
thanks!

ok here's what I've found about the high cpu...
using process explorer, hardware interrups is taking all the cpu. i've tried to disable items one by one but nothing is working so far. what does work is if i choose scan for new hardware, cpu goes down to normal. standby and resume and cpu is up again. do the scan and it goes down again - without changing anything.
i've re-installed the graphic board driver, nvidia 430 drivers, sound driver. not sure what else to do. checked my drives and they are all properly master/slave set.
this is really getting crazy...anyone come across this?
i'm a bit hesitant to go to bios 3.1 since i've seen lots of posts about BSOD and i've just gotten rid of that.
thanks
thanks a bunch!

K8NGM2-FID dumb question i am sure . SLI available?

I dont plan on using SLI since i am not a gamer or overclocker. I am curious if SLI on the K8NGM2-FID is available so i can make sure i turn it off.
got a feeling that this is a really dumb questions. but i really like this board for my needs, just now.
thanks .

SLI is not available as there is only one PCI-E 16X slot

K8NGM2-FID: bad PCI-e x16 slot on motherboard?

Computer boots fine, but I do no get any video output when booting from a PCI-e graphics card. I've tried 2 eVGA GeForce 7600GS cards and 1 PNY 7300GT and they all have the same problem. Components and detailed description are below. I assume my motherboard's PCI-e slot is bad, but don't want to RMA it unless I have to (don't want to be without it for 2-3 weeks).
Components:
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 2000MHz
MSI K8NGM2-FID micro-ATX
2x512MB Corsair ValueSelect PC3200
Onboard GeForce 6150 / eVGA 7600GS / PNY 7300GT
Samsung SP0822N IDE 80 GB Boot Drive
2x Samsung SP2504C SATA 250 GB in Raid 0
Samsung IDE SH-S162L/BEBN DVD R/W
SeaSonic S12 380W Power Supply (+3.3V@22A, +5V@21A, +12V1@10A, +12V2@15A, [email protected], +5VSB@2A)
Hauppauge PVR-500 Dual TV Tuner (PCI)
Vbox Cat's Eye DTA-150 HDTV Tuner (PCI)
D-Link Wireless G USB adapter
Windows Media Center Edition 2005
Detailed Description:
eVGA 7600GS: Before purchasing the PCI-e video card I was using the onboard GeForce 6150 graphics via DVI. I went into the BIOS and selected [PCI Express] as the Primary Graphics Adapter and [Disable OnChip VGA if have PCIe VGA]. I then installed the video card and hooked it up to the monitor via DVI. The computer booted fine, but I got no video feed from the video card. I reseated the card and restarted a few more times but still got no picture. I hooked the DVI cable back up to the onboard graphics and got a normal video feed. The heatsink on the video card was warm so I know it’s getting power. I gave up for awhile and shut down the computer. Awhile later I booted the computer back up and I didn't get any video from the onboard graphics. So I plugged the DVI cable back into the video card and restarted, and I got a video feed! The add new hardware wizard appeared and installed. I restarted the computer later that night, and once again I got no video feed via the video card. I hooked the DVI cable back to the onboard graphics and I got a video feed. I have not been able to get any video feed from the video card ever since.
2nd eVGA 7600GS: I returned the video card to the store and got an identical replacement. I have not been able to get any video feed on this video card either. I have tried enabling [Both exist and OnChip VGA by frame buffer select] in the BIOS and that didn't help. I hooked up a monitor via DVI to the onboard graphics and a monitor via VGA to the video card (and vice-versa), and only the onboard graphics displayed anything. I unhooked nearly all components - USB devices, PCI cards, additional Hard Drives etc. and still could not get a video output from the card. I have reseated the card many times. It’s almost like the motherboard is not detecting that a PCI Express video card is installed. The Device Manager only shows the GeForce 6150 Display Adapter. eVGA suggests a 400 Watt Power Supply, and I only have a 380 Watt PSU.
PNY 7300GT: Installed and went into the BIOS, made sure everything was correct and rebooted. I got a video feed from the card, but when windows detected new hardware, the computer froze so I had to restart. I have not been able to get video output from the card ever since. Card only requires a 300W power supply with 12V rating of 20A or more.
I've been using this motherboard for about 8 months without any problems until I tried installing a PCI-e video card. So, do you think it's my motherboard or something else?

Quote from: TheBigMan on 19-October-06, 07:57:01
Try this:
Go into BIOS to 'Advanced Chipset Features' and in:
'Primary Graphics Adapter' -> PCI Express
'OnChip and PCIe VGA Selection' -> Disable OnChip VGA if have PCIe VGA
'OnChip VGA Frame Buffer Size' -> Disable
'OnChip VGA Trap' -> Disable
See if it helps...
Be well....
Yes, I've tried all that except setting the OnChip VGA Frame Buffer Size to Disable. I just tried that and I couldn't get a video feed via the PCI-e VGA or the onboard graphics, so I had to reset the CMOS.

K8NGM2-FID accessories

at the bottom of the MSI site decribing the K8NGM2 series are two optional back panel I/O ports listed. Try as i might i can not find the "DVI port".
Is that accessory really available and will that provide an extra dvi port on a K8NGM2-FID. Extra as in addition to the DVI port already on the back panel.
Sounds strange to me. The optional dvi port would require either using a PCIe x1 slot or one of the PCI slots, unless some where on the board are pins that allow some kind of hook up to the on board vide. Just doesn't make sense to me.

That is only available for the board the has the nVidia 6150 chipset. In this case, the only version that has this option is the K8NGM2-FID. You must be misunderstanding the product page, there is no additional DVI port or accessory adapter.
That listing found here: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=702
Verbatim:
Back Panel I/O Ports
- 1 x Parallel
- 1 x PS/2 Keyboard
- 1 x PS/2 Mouse
- 1 x VGA
- 1 x DVI port (optional) <6150 Only
- 1 x IEEE1394 port (optional)
- 1 x Audio I/O (Line-in/Line-out/MIC)
- 4 x USB 2.0
- 1 x RJ45 LAN Jack
That is all.
I looked at the manual as well there is no mention of an additional DVI interface or bracket whatsoever.
Again, I think this must be a misunderstanding.

Can't get SATA drive to boot - MSI K8NGM2-FID

Mobo is MSI K8NGM2-FID. I've had two IDE drives w/ XP and added a SATA II (WD7500AAKS) recently as a storage drive. Now I'd like to make the SATA the boot drive, but after cloning it from the IDE boot drive it hasn't yet got far in the start up process (cloning with WD Tools, then again with Acronis). I can't tell whether the problem is BIOS or Windows (XP) or ? MSI Update says the BIOS is current and I set the SATA drive as the first HD in the boot order in Advanced BIOS features.
On start up, the computer runs through the BIOS sequence onscreen and then stops somewhere between the end of that and the Windows blue screen coming up, leaving a blank screen except a flashing cursor on the left. When I disconnect the two IDE drives as a test, the same thing happens. Then, with them still disconnected, I try booting from the XP CD and it gets to the point of checking the computer's current configuration and then the screen goes blank indefinitely. I would think it would either show the XP setup menu or give a message that's something is missing.
Does this sound like BIOS or Windows or ? Is there anything else in BIOS that needs changing? I've been told that IDE drive jumpers have no effect on SATA drives. Is that true? Thanks.
MSI K8NGM2-FID
Athlon 64 3000
2GB RAM
XP/SP2 current

Quote from: genegold on 29-January-08, 01:31:18
Good timing. I'd like to add partitions to my new (cloned) SATA boot drive (C:), but wanted to back up first. A problem and a question come up. First, when I remount the old IDE drive as a second drive D:, even wiped clean, problems ensue. Comodo wants to look for my firewall installation on D: and Acronis won't allow me to clone back, i.e., clone from the new drive to the old.
It's not really clear what you had before or what you have now in terms of HDDs: you had two IDE drives, C: & D: and one SATA as E:??; now you have a SATA boot drive. Do you still have the 40GB IDE drive? Did the clone over to the SATA automatically extend the old 160GB C: partition to 750GB? Sorry but I've no idea how Acronis works. "Wiped clean" is kinda vague - it could mean using the HDD mfr's utility to write zeroes to the entire surface... or just creating a new Extended partition containing a formatted(?) logical volume. If that old IDE drive has a Primary partition it could still be marked as bootable, which you can check with BootitNG... and it's not a good idea to have a Primary partition on a 2nd drive.
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Second, I assume that files are spread over the boot drive, not just grouped in the first 150GB, even if defragged. In reducing the partition size - now 698GB - how does BootitNG know to make sure everything ends up in the first partition? I read about this somewhere but don't see any mention in BootITNG.
Again, I don't know how you got to the situation of a 698GB partition on the SATA boot drive - it would have been better to clone to the same sized C: partition as the old 160GB drive and then use a tool like BootitNG to extend it to whatever size you want... then add new partitions.
No partition management software can guarantee a partition shrink will work - they can only shrink out unallocated space. In that respect Windows XP Defrag is unreliable at both leaving unallocated space at the end of a partition AND at accurately reporting what is used and what is not. In such a situation, without a better, more accurate, defragger I generally run defrag several times, with reboots in between until it "looks" like it's safe to shrink and do the shrink in steps, with checks and defrags again, in between. Yes, it's a PITA.

Overclocking 4000+ with MSI K8NGM2-FID

Hello,
I want overclock my 4000+ san diego but just a question : can we change the vcore with the MSI K8NGM2-FID ? I can't find it
thx a lot

Quote from: BOSSKILLER on 09-June-07, 02:30:36
you no really need to change CPU vcore.. board OC properties up to 250 HTT, so you can force CPU to that freq. without need to increase CPU vcore to gain stability, should be not a problem for most of the CPU's. the CPU should be stable with default vcore.
I don't know bosskiller. A 4000+ runs @ 2400Mhz already. Many K8's need voltage increases @ 2600. With a K8 that starts out so high i think he'll need Vcore increases soon to get a whortwhile oc.

K8NGM2-FID no video or post

Hi everyone, i found this forum and found alot of helpful info here, but ive run into an issue I havent been able to track down a solution to.
Ive been trying to troubleshoot an issue im having with my htpc. its an older system using an MSI K8NGM2-FID motherboard, AMD 3700+ 939 processor and 3GBs ddr ram (2x 1gb/2x 512mb), and Seasonic 430W power supply all in a Zalman 160 htpc case.
the problem started after the system experienced a few shut downs in a row. the system would just shut off on its own. this happened a handful of times as i tried to troubleshoot the issue, but it now wont show any display when trying to boot.
my first though was maybe the onbaord video had failed since the system was getting power (i.e. fans spin up, hdds spin up and stay running, etc). I got hold of another K8NGM2-FID board and big suprise, same issue.
So far, I have tried running a barebones system with just the power switch run to the case, cpu fan, and psu power connected to the board. I only used a single stick of ram in the dimm 1 slot. I also tried using the cmos reset button and pulling the battery, but none of that has resulted in anything different. Also, I noticed the board isnt making any beeps, even if i have no ram plugged in at all. If its a hardware issue, then its down to all 4 sticks of my ram being bad or the cpu.
After reading other posts here, it sounds like it might be a bios issue as well. If that is true and if its recommedned that I try to flash it, is there anyway to do that using a usb flash drive? The reason I ask is that I have no floppy drives and would need to buy one if thats the only way.
any other suggestions going forward would be much appreciated

You changed the board already, so it comes down to the cpu/memory.
It can't be a bios isue, since the system ran with this bios without any problems before.
I think your cpu has a problem or there is a bad dimm. Did you try all four dimms seperately?
Try >>Memtest86<< to find out any trouble on the memory.
@0125: please use proper English. No chat/sms language please, thank you!
S

K8NGM2-FID vs. K8NGM2-IL

Hi,
Ideally I'd like to get the K8NGM2-FID motherboard, but it's proving near on impossible to get hold of one here in the UK.
So, what I'd like to know is what are the main differences between the boards?? The MSI website seems a little vague in telling you the differences!
I know that the -FID has the nForce 430, whereas the -IL has the nForce 410, but what differences are there in the chipsets?
Also, as I'm buying this board for a media centre, a TV out is vital. Does the -IL still come with the TV out bracket? Also does the -IL support HD like the -FID does?
Is there much of a difference in performance in the two boards?
Any help would be much appreciated!
Thanks!
Dave

Dave,
Performance wise you should not notice any difference between the two.
K8NGM2-L
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Brand MSI
Model K8NGM2-L
Supported CPU
CPU Socket Type Socket 939
CPU Type Athlon 64 FX/Athlon 64/Sempron
FSB 1000MHz Hyper Transport (2000 MT/s)
Chipsets
North Bridge NVIDIA GeForce 6100
South Bridge NVIDIA nForce 410
Memory
Number of DDR Slots 4x 184pin DDR
DDR Standard DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Maximum Memory Supported 4GB
Dual Channel Supported Yes
Expansion Slots
AGP Slots None
PCI Express x16 1
PCI Express x1 1
PCI Slots 2
Storage Devices
PATA 2 x ATA100 up to 4 Devices
SATA II 2
SATA RAID RAID 0/1
Onboard Video
Onboard Video Yes
Onboard Video Chipset NVIDIA GeForce 6100
Onboard Audio
Audio Chipset Realtek ALC880
Audio Channels 8 Channels
Onboard LAN
LAN Chipset Realtek 8201CL PHY
Max LAN Speed 10/100Mbps
Rear Panel Ports
PS/2 2
LPT 1
VGA 1
USB 4x USB 2.0
Audio Ports 3 Ports
Onboard USB
Onboard USB 4x USB 2.0
Physical Spec
Form Factor Micro ATX
Dimensions 9.6" x 9.6"
Features
Power Pin 24 Pin
K8NGM2-FID
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Brand MSI
Model K8NGM2-FID
Supported CPU
CPU Socket Type Socket 939
CPU Type Athlon 64 FX/Athlon 64/Athlon X2
FSB 1000MHz Hyper Transport (2000 MT/s)
Chipsets
North Bridge NVIDIA GeForce 6150
South Bridge NVIDIA nForce 430
Memory
Number of DDR Slots 4x 184pin DDR
DDR Standard DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Maximum Memory Supported 4GB
Dual Channel Supported Yes
Expansion Slots
AGP Slots None
PCI Express x16 1
PCI Express x1 1
PCI Slots 2
Storage Devices
PATA 2 x ATA100 up to 4 Devices
SATA II 4
SATA RAID NV RAID 0/1/0+1/5 JBOD
Onboard Video
Onboard Video Yes
Onboard Video Chipset NVIDIA GeForce 6150
Onboard Audio
Audio Chipset Realtek ALC880
Audio Channels 8 Channels
Onboard LAN
LAN Chipset VITESSE vsc8201RX
Max LAN Speed 10/100/1000Mbps
Rear Panel Ports
PS/2 2
LPT 1
VGA 1 x D-sub & 1x DVI
USB 4x USB 2.0
IEEE 1394 1x 1394
Audio Ports 3 Ports
Onboard USB
Onboard USB 4x USB 2.0
Onboard 1394
Onboard 1394 1x 1394a
Physical Spec
Form Factor Micro ATX
Dimensions 9.6" x 9.6"
Features
Power Pin 24 Pin
Take Care,
Richard

K8NGM2-FID warm reboot/reset problems

Hi everybody:
The system:
MSI K8NGM2-FID Bios V 3.4
RAM - G.SKILL 2GB F1-3200PHU2
Processor Athlon X2 3800+
Drive WD2500YD 250GB 7200 RPM SATA150
DVD R/W Pioneer DVR-111D
DVD-R ASUS DVD-E616AG
Case Antec Sonata II w/ Antec 450 W PSU 3.3 V/32A 12V1/15A 12V2/17A
OS WinXP SP2 w/auto update set
The Problem:
When the system runs for more than 1-2 minutes and I do a restart under Windows OR hit the reset button it hangs with the HDD light on steady and no video output.
If I try a warm restart or reset button push immediately (10-30 seconds) after windows comes up the system restarts OK.
When the system is 'hung' repeated hits (short or 5-10 seconds) on the Reset button have no effect besides causing the DVD lights to blink (i.e., they seem to be getting a reset signal) but HDD light is still steady.
If I power the system down and restart it reboots OK - this means power down from the 'hung' state OR power down from Windows via 'Start' --> 'Turn off computer' or momentary push of power switch.
Looking at the Windows system log I see that warm boots done before many system processes load are successful, those afterwards are not. I have tried disabling these processes (i.e., App layer gateway, SSDP discovery, Norton protected storage) w/o any change in behavior.
This looks like a hardware problem to me, but I want to be sure it's one before I R&R the mobo w/ a spare.
Has anybody else seen this problem?
Thanks,
ss

Update:
It was the mobo - R&R w/new one: warm boot/reset problem gone. Plugged in drives w/o doing any software reinstall and unit came right up (and down and up and down....).
This is the second K8NGM2-FID that has gone south on me since March.
Both have been Ver 2.0 builds; the other one has a problem with onboard video but continues to function with an add-in video card (yah, it's better video too, but that's not the point). The warm boot problem described in the original post isn't a show stopper, either, but I can't use these boards in a system for sale (unless I sell it to my brother-in-law).
I have built eight systems since March using the K8NGM2-FID. Six were for customers and are still under my personal six month no-questions-asked warranty (the extended 12 month lots-of-questions-asked starts after six months). I have had to eat two at this point and am not too happy with the board. Since MSI no longer makes this board I am having to use another vendor's mATX-6150 unit, perhaps for the better, I don't know.
IMHO MSI is the best board maker in the consumer/office sector. I hope they can stay that way.
ss

K8NGM2-FID onboard video won't go to DVI in XP

System is:
K8NGM2-FID
BIOS 3.4
Onboard video using 128 MB memory off motherboard
Athlon 64 x2 3800+
2 GB (2 x 1GB) RAM Patriot PDC2G3200LLK 2-3-2-5
Case Antec Sonata II w/PSU Antec Smartpower 2.0 450W dual 12V (15A/17A)
HDD Seagate ST316012A Barracuda 7200.9 160 GB
OS WinXP SP2 auto updated
This system has run 24/7 for about 5 months using onboard video driving a Samsung SyncMaster 940t thru the onboard DVI port.
I am using the DVI (digital) onboard video output to drive my monitor. Recently I have experienced blank screens when waking up from monitor power down (20 minute w/o activity - no screensaver, just auto power down). When I connect a VGA (analog) cable from the onboard connector to the monitor's analog input the video is there but not present on DVI (digital) output of board. Otherwise the machine is still completely functional, just no DVI video output.
Rebooting, the video signal is present on BOTH connectors (DVI and VGA) up to the point when Windows loads the desktop (i.e., past Windows boot screens), then it switches to VGA ONLY.
If I power down and wait 3-4 hours, the DVI will continue to work after Windows loads the desktop, then will not return after the monitor powers down due to inactivity (20 minutes, set in properties - screen saver) OR a warm reboot OR a power cycle. Switching to the VGA (analog) output, the video is still there and system is running as before, but with analog video only, no DVI (digital). This occurs with two other monitors that have dual inputs (HP and Viewsonic).
Video drivers are from MSI and are the current Version 8205 - (8.2.0.5 on device manager screen) but BIOS is 3.4. BIOS update 3.4->3.5->3.6 notes do not mention any DVI issues so I am hesitant to flash to 3.6 (current version) as I do not think it will fix the problem.
Bringing up nVidia Nview desktop manager, it 'sees' the monitor but there is no mention of DVI or VGA interface or way to switch between them. If I hook up a TV to the Svideo output it 'sees' that as well as the monitor and I can switch between them.
Does anyone know of a way to explicitly direct signal to either of the onboard video connectors (DVI and VGA) connector on this board (K8NGM2-FID)?
Any other ideas?
Thanks in advance,
ss

I fixed the system.
However, I still don't know the root cause of the original problem.
The missing piece of the fix was doing an uninstall of the video device drivers using the Control Panel 'Add or Remove Programs' function. Prior to that I was just updating things using either the package's native installers or the Device Manager Update Driver function.
After the uninstall I did a clean install of the MSI drivers off a CD and now have selectable digital and/or analog displays in Windows XP. Also, the nvidia drivers DO work, provided they are installed on a 'clean' suystem (thanks, Stu). Installing either driver set as an update results in unstable output - sometimes digital, sometimes analog.
Moral of the story: clean up toothpaste before squeezing the tube again.
ss

K8NGM2-FID / MS-7207 - Unable to install WinXP

K8NGM2-FID / MS-7207 - Unable to install WinXP
Problem: When attempting to install Windows XP Professional (original version prior to SP2 release), the system either hangs after the second reboot (when attempting to load for the first time) or blue-screens at some point during the initial setup (segment fault.)
System Description:
AMD ATHLON 64 X2 3800+ - MANCHESTER (dual core)
MSI K8NGM2-FID nVIDIA GeForce 6150 CHIPSET
CRUCIAL 2GB (2 x 1024MB) PC3200 400MHZ CL3 184-PIN DDR DIMM(s)
400W ps - Sparkle
no floppy, nothing fancy, no PCI cards, stock system
bios ver: 2.59 (I need winxp installed so I can use the live bios update)
I am not overclocking.
Details:
Tested with three different UltraATA IDE harddrives, capacities from 13.6 - 40 GB.
Tested with two different 80-conductor Ultra ATA cables.
I'm unable to get through a Windows XP installation. I've eliminated the harddrive or cable as the culprit by testing with more than one KG component. I can successfully boot from a Knoppix 4 live CD and the system will run overnight like that.
Does this motherboard not like UltraATA IDE drives? I don't have any SATA drives to test an installation with.
I ordered the Motherboard/CPU/Memory as a pre-tested kit.
UPDATE:
Flash bios to 3.4 using A7207nms.340 from msi web site. Did _not_ solve issue. Also noted that when attempting to load WinXP in Safe Mode the last thing I see on the screen is loading Mup.sys then I get the PAGE_FAULT_IN_NOPAGED_AREA blue screen.

> This error can be caused by a power supply that's too weak.
I researched the power supply prior to the purchase, selecting one that was reported by another person to work with the board. I have spare KG supplies that I can test with though.
> Also, can you try with one dimm? Test your RAM with memtest86 to make sure
> it's okay.
I removed one of the sticks, checked bios to ensure system corrected the RAM count, and then started over with the WinXP installation, which still resulted in PAGE_FAULT_IN_NOPAGED_AREA near completion.
> By the way: don't flash your bios with the LiveUpdate utility. Always
> flash bios in DOS mode, preferably using a CD.
Okay, I will go ahead and update the bios with the DOS utility.
> Also, why do you want to flash bios? If all works when Windows is
> installed, flashing your board can cause problems you don't have now.
Often, with a mobo updating the bios will allow windows to detect mobo resources it was unable to do before. The manufacturer most often ships prior to all the bugs being worked out of the bios. PC builders and vendors recommend using the latest stable bios.
Although there is something to be said for "If it's not broke, don't fix it. However, mine is broke to begin with. If I have to RMA this board, I will not be exchanging it for an identical model, or another MSI board.
> Edit: what other hardware do you use? Videocard, opticals, etc.
Video is onboard. Everything is pretty stock. The keyboard and mouse are on a test bench that gets used for dozens of other systems.
I have to say I long for the simple standardized motherboards of the past. I don't mind setting jumpers but I am not impressed with the inferior quality and overwhelming diversity in today's computer hardware.
ty

K8NGM2-FID MOBO Keeps beeping in Windows

Hi, I've had this mobo/pc for 2 years, and it all of a sudden the mobo pc speaker started beeping while Windows is loaded.
Temperature isn't an issue, I checked several times.
I formated the harddrive and tried to install windows again, and it started beeping while it was installing. I doesn't beep in DOS mode(the first stage of XP install).
I have a EVGA 6800GS video card, 1gig of ram, 200g hard drive, 400watt power supply. The PC has been running great for 2 years till about a month ago when this started happening.
Please help.

Sorry,
- MSI K8NGM2-FID 939 NVIDIA GeForce 6150 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
- AMD 64 3700+ ATHLON 64 939P
- Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L200M0 200GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 1.5Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
- Patriot Signature Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory
- EVGA 256-P2-N386-AX GeForce 6800GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card
- LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner with Replaceable White Front Pane
- APEVIA X-QPACK-NW-AL/420 Black/ Silver Aluminum MicroATX Desktop Computer Case 420W Power Supply

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Hi,
Does anyone know if the Zalman 7700-Cu (120mm) heatsink & fan will fit K8NGM2-FID motherboard, this is an especially BIG HSF and is known to be in-compatible with cetain mobo's.
TIA
ManC

ManC,
While it is a large cooler, the design gives you a very goof chance of getting it to fit most Mobos:
When you look at the compatibility list:
CNPS7700 Compatible Socket 754/939/940 Motherboard List
It is not on the list, but it is not on the incompatible list either.
When you look at the Socket 939 on the Mobo, it looks like there is a very good chance it will fit:
Take Care,
Richard

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I intend to buy a flat panel for the MSI K8NGM2-FID motherboard. Can the screen DVI-I plug can be plugged into the motherboard DVI-D plug ?
Thanks.

Quote from: passionne on 31-January-06, 23:59:24
OK, thanks. I was not able to modify the RAM voltage beforehand, since I pressed the "enter" key first.
But, now that I have applied 2.6 V, I don't know how to make the RAM work at 400 Mhz. Indeed, CPUz shows me that it runs at 333 Mhz.
In the chipset configuration, I can change the RAM frequency but the allowable values are 100, 133 and 166 Mhz. Not 200 Mhz.
And I noticed that the command rate is 2T. I changed it to 1T and no boot. I was forced to clear CMOS.
I looked at the RAM specifications (http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator/PartsInfo.asp?ktcpartno=KVR400X64C25/512) but it is not told if these DIMMs can run at 400 Mhz, 1T.
Would you have an idea ?
Thanks.
I use A64 3700+ with Corsair XMS 1G x 2. All RAM setting is auto and CPUz read 200MHz (3-3-3-8). RAM is at 2.6V
May be you can try using auto RAM setting and slightly increase the RAM voltage to 2.65V or 2.7V. If it work, you may try other custom RAM setting.

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