[K8T neo 754] S-ATA Smart under XP64

Hello,
I have a MSI K8T NEO FISR2 socket 754 mobo with a maxtor dm10 s-ata drive on the VIA controller. The OS is Windows XP x64.
When I try to read out the SMART values of my harddrive, i cannot see these with a couple of progs (speedfan, everest). I also cant see the temperature of the drive.
I already installed the latest driver for my VIA s-ata controller.
As I can remember under XP32 it was possible to read these values (not 100% sure).
Does anyone know there is a possibility to read out the smart values and drive temp under x64?

hmz But i can remember when i had just bought this disk, i plugged it in on my winxp32 install on my old p-ata disk and speedfan detected a new harddisk. That's why i'm a little confused that it could be a win xp x64 problem.
Or can all other people with this mainboard also not read out the smart values on any OS?

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kevtucker,
I'm running the same setup up as you and have not experienced any ram related problems so far. I'm happy with it and it is very stable.
Every ram has different settings. For the corsair 1gb value select (2x512mb) you must make sure you use these settings for the best results:
put them in slots 1 and 3.
use the settings 2.5-3-3-8
set the ddr voltage 2.7
I got that information straight from the official corsair forums:
http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showindex.php?t=24410
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My Unofficial K8t Neo Guide

Disclaimer: You try any and all troubleshooting at YOUR OWN RISK!!
Here is my unofficial guide to the K8t Neo fisr2 If you Like It give it a thumbs up so it will stick out. I will warn you it is long and I will edit off and on.
to add as needed.
first I'll start off with components,
CASE..you will need an atx case with good cooling a few extra fans like a blowhole at the top can help cooling, also bundle cables and power leads
so that they don't interfere with airflow.
MOTHERBOARD,...This is based on the K8TNEO series, when you attach it to your case make sure that is is mounted to risers to keep it from contacting case, they are usually small brass pins, also make sure that all the mounting screw are secure and in place, this will prevent the PCB from flexing and cracking as you install components, there should be around 9 or so screws, that usually go into the riser pins or raised case mounting points,don't forget to use those fiber or plastic insulated washers. These should be the only case contact point to the mobo other then the back plate with all the usb, net jacks etc..
Also use all of the mount points you can..if not you can crack mobo putting in cards etc...
CPU...Athlon64 processor2800+, 3000+, 3200+, or a 3400+, all 754 pin chips...k8neo CAN NOT USE FX chips or Opterons. 3200,&3000 are basically the same chip, same clockspeed of 2.0 ghz but the l2 cache is different 3200 1mb...3000 512k, you may not notice the difference in many applications but will see 2~10% diff in benchmark testing, the 3000 is usually about $75 cheaper
the 2800 is a newer model an a good way to get into 64bit without high cost.
PSU.... one of the most overlooked and most important component,
that old 300 watter you have from your old duron 800 don't even try.PSU's have caused a lot of trouble with a64 systems, they use a lot of power Get a good name brand psu if you can, and make sure it is at least 400 watts and has at the minimum of 20a on 12v, also look at combined total wattage
the psu must have a 20 pin connector and a 4 Pin( Square) Connector, and there is Only 1, Called the+12V 4 Pin Processor Connector.
some of the recommended brands are enermax,and antec.
Here is the reason most problems are the psu
amd64 uses 12v power, Intel chips used a lot of 5v power.
so until now most big psu's pushed 5 v not 12v
almost everything in your computer uses 12v except ram (3.3V)
AMD 64 and motherboard =12a @12V
so your already at 12A with no fan,s no hd, no CD,no DVD ,no mobo chip-set , no mem, no sound..etc
so what happens is your mem gets starved for power and then gives out errors,in your data, which = corrupt sata,or it fails to post. .
MEMMORY...Another big trouble spot,not just with the MSI board but with Via chip-set, and or the A64 memory controller.
DDR non ecc- single channel 400 is baseline although slower chips also work, The CPU's memory unit only supports 4 banks total so in order to use three sockets at least two of the memory sticks have to be 1 bank,.one bank or two bank chips look similar so check specs, dual bank chips usually have chips on the back as well. mem should match type and speed. if you run into problems try going into bios and limiting ram to 333.mem should match type and speed.
(edited out till i find more info [STRIKEOUT] if using two mem sticks it is best to use slots 1 and 3,[/STRIKEOUT])
edit :ok tiresmoke just replied so have a look. "One thing that often does not get addressed. I had a couple Blue Screens early on. Here is how I fixed it. I run my RAM in sockets 1 and 3. 1 and 2 gave a little instability.Yes I decided to keep mine in slot 1/3 but I did test in 1/2 since I changed Bios. Typically slot 1/3 can slow you down but it did not with mine so best to say that difference RAM will give different symptoms. Try combinations to find what works best for you."
LOL Keep in mind that Jocko uses 3 sticks of dual bank RAM and according to AMD they only support 4 banks total. Jocko has 6 so you do the math.
you can check msi's website for compatible ram, but be careful it can be confusing,
they list by part numbers,
but some known configurations that work are:
I would stay away from corsair xms mem right now many people have problems.
corsair and kingston owners may want to look here
AMD 3000+ systems...
BIOS 1.2
2 x 512 - Corsair CMX DDR400 @2-3-2-5
2 x 512 - Corsair Twin Pro DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
2 x 512 - Corsair Value Select DDR400 @ defaults
1 x 512 - Geil Golden Dragon DDR400 @ 2-3-3-6 (2.7V)
2 x 512 - Hynix DDR400 @ 2-3-3-6
2 x 512 - Kingmax DDR433 @ 2.5-3-3-6
2 x 512 - Kingston DDR400 @ 3-3-3-8
1 x 512 - Kingston HyperX DDR400 @ (defaults?)
1 x 512 - Kingston ValueRam (KVR400X64C3A) DDR400? @ (Defaults?)
2 x 512 - Muskin Level 1 DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
2 x 512 - Muskin Level 2 DDR433 @ (defaults?)
2 x 256 + 1 x 512 - Muskin Basic DDR400 @ 2.5-3-3-8
1 x 1024 - OCZ EL DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
BIOS 1.3b2
2 x 512 OCZ EL DDR433 @ 2-3-3-7
AMD 3200+ systems...
BIOS 1.1
2 x 512 - Mushkin Level 1 Black DDR433 @ 2.5-3-3-6
BIOS 1.2
2 x 512 - Apacer DDR400 @ 3-4-4-8 (2.5v)
2 x 512 - Corsair Twin X DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
1 x 1024 - Corsair TwinX DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
2 x 512 - Crucial DDR400 @ defaults
2 x 512 - Elixer OEM DDR400 @ defaults
1 x 1024 - GeIL GoldenDragon DDR400? @ defaults
2 x 512 - Geil Value Series 512MB DDR 2.5-3-3-6
2 x 512 - Hynix DDR400 @ 2-3-3-6
2 x 512 - Kingston HyperX KX DDR433 @ 2-3-3-8
2 x 512 - Kingston HyperX DDR400 @ (defaults?)
2 x 512 - Kingston HyperX DDR400 @ 2.5-3-3-8
2 x 512 - Mushkin Level 2 DDR400 @ 2-2-2-5 (2.75V)
2 x 256 - Mushkin Level 2 DDR400 @ 2-2-2-5
2 x 256 + 1 x 512 - Muskin Basic DDR400 @ (defaults?)
2 x 512 - Twinx CLPRO DDR400 @ (defaults?)
2x512- Pny Verto DDR433 @defualts
AMD 3400+ systems...
BIOS 1.2
2 x 512 - Kingmax (MPXC22D-38KT3R) DDR400 @ defaults
2 x 512 - Mushkin Level 2 Black DDR433 @ 2-3-2-5
you may have to email you mem manufacturer and manually set timings and voltages to get your memory working.
HARD DRIVES......Here you have alot of choices, basically two categories, SATA and PATA(IDE). There are many brands and speeds, IDE drives come in different speeds, such as ata33, ata66, ata 100, ata 133 for hard drives, the 33,100,133, being theoretical maximum transfer rating MB/sec.
newer ata(IDE)hard drives are ata100 which is ultra 5, and ata133 ,ultra6 is ,
PIO mode is the standard data transfer mode without the ultra enhancements, the fastest being 16.66 mb/sec. ultra 2 is 33 mb/sec . So when i say my CD,DVD, and DVD are ultra 2 it means they transfer at a maximum of 33 mb/sec, and my Maxtor hardrives are ultra 6 and have a maximum transfer of133 mb/sec. my old zip100 transfers at a max of 16 mb/sec since its in pio mode. Note these are maximum speeds, my hardrive transfers more like 65 mb/sec sustained according to SIS Sandra.
That is why SATA 150 is such a big deal, vs say a Western digital ata100
SATA is a different interface all together and can transfers closer to its maximum
theoretical speed. BUT the pci bus itself is limited to 133 mb/sec so an add-on card
should never be able to reach over 133, regardless, of SCSI,IDE, or SATA
so on the k8t neo you have some choices. With the IDE you can use, IDE1,2, or 3
IDE1&2 are ata100. ) to attach use a 80pin round or flat cable, the first slot goes into the mobo, the middle connector is for a slave or should be left empty, use the end for master, or single drive. you must also setup jumpers for hd or cds.
The master is primary unit and the slave is secondary unit, for each channel.
Or use the Cable Select jumper and USUALLY the BIOS will select the drive for you.
IDE1 & 2 is ata100, or 133 depending on board if using for only 2 drives put them on different channels
...ie master on IDE 1, and master on IDE 2 . that way they will have maximum bandwidth. especially for disk to disk copies or burning
IDE3 RAID is ata133, or can be raid 0 or 1 by the promise chip. 0 being striped for performance,1 being mirrored for safety, mirror only protects hd from failure,not viruses,or corruption for that you need a backup or as i prefer a drive image program such as accronis trueimage..linux compatible.and Norton ghost.you will first have to enable the promise chip in the bios, then you have to load drivers by hitting F6 during windows installation, and insert floppy drive, yes you will need a floppy, at least for initial setup. If you want to set up raid you will have to do that first before loading windows,by hitting ctrl+F (read quick user's guide Serial ata raid, serial ata) only hd's can use ide3.If you don't have enough IDE slots you can add on pci card with one or two more headers for up to 4 more drives, I added a Maxtor ultra ata133, since i have 5 idehd's and 3 DVD/cds.
SATA, here you have two choices, use the Promise chip set or the Via. Either one or both can be set to raid0 or 1, see users guide to setup, You will also have to enable them first in bios, and F6 and load floppy drivers to use in windows install, or load drivers in windows if using an existing install. either chip-set can be set for raid, in the manual, opinions are that the Via is faster, but you wont have a HD LED activity indicator light, The promise will have a HD light, but is slightly slower.
Also note that SATAs don't OC as well as IDE hard drives, they can even crash and loose data.
always make a backup of your computer, and remember raid 1 does nothing for virus, or contaminated installs.
SOUND....Here you have a few choices, On board or Card, unfortunately not both, yet.(UPDATE Bios Version 1.5 and above will fix this)... If using a card there have been some issues with Audigy 1 cards, but there may be a cure in this threadhttps://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=46849&sid=( Moved to stickies) audigy2 and 2zs cards work fine as do turtle beach.
on-board sound is not as high definition and uses some CPU cycles, so a card might be advantageous to gamers.
REALTEK GIGABIT...Is the on-board Ethernet, you will need to load drivers once in windows, it has caused some problems booting, as it can be set to a boot device as well. you will get a message "failed to boot press any key."..then "ntdlr error"...to fix this you may need to hit the key combination during boot to set it up, it will bring you to a menu, you need to set boot order, i recommend setting it to bios, and you can adjust or disable message and time length it is displayed.
VIDEO CARDS- You should install an agp 8x directx9 video card for best performance. Ati has better directx support so is better for gaming, but Nvida has better OpenGL so if you want to do 3d in Linux, you have better luck with Nvida.
When you set up windows, install via 4-1 drivers first, then the video drivers, check video manufacturer's website for updated drivers. make sure any extra power leads are plugged in. In bios Agp should be fast write enabled, and
if you are using 1024 of ram aperture size to 256, but check 3dmark to see which setting is faster.
BIOS- NO BIOS INSTALLED This is a message that you see during boot up from the promise on-board raid saying that it found no drives attached to its SATA or IDE channels so it's not installed the BIOS.This IS NOT a problem or anything to worry about!
jumping Bios reset jumper, be careful, make sure power is off. jump it and return it to the original position. If you power on with jumper in reset position you can erase your bios...requiring a Return to Manufacturer Authorization(RMA)
I have had no problems using windows updating to the latest bios ,It cured some issues, such as firewire ports, sound blaster audigy1 troubles,tweaked temps displayed,and so on. but be sure to have a backup of original bios disk. I have heard new 1.8 beta bios cures Newcastle temp problems.
some good settings are.. SMART enabled this will warn you of hard disk failure,System bios cacheble and shadow ram are more for older computers and should be set to disable.boot to os2- disable...memory setting vary by card and some even need to be set manually so check with manufacturer or get familiar with cmos reset jumper.(just be sure to have power off)...plug and play os to disable(more of a win 98 thing) disable serials and parallel ports if you don't need them, as with on-board sound firewire etc. this is just a few pointers the rest is a more personal thing, but i have heard turbo setting causes problems and is best left to fast, and dynamic oc'ing is similar use at your own risk
USB keyboard don't forget to enable USB in the BIOS. This caused some problems when installing XP. Without USB enabled in BIOS when you come to the "Hit any key to proceed" the install will fail with the ntldr error
POWER SAVINGS...Having trouble getting fans or case lights to shut off on standby set to S3, then disable apm, and be sure to set a wakeup event..such as wake from usb, or keyboard command. I have agp boot disable, but depends on card.
Want to know more about bios, and what those settings are? click this link
http://www.rojakpot.com/(eb1mg5zatgcf5r55lv5no155)/default.aspx?location=9
CORE CENTER....Another personal choice, I like it and use it a lot, to increase and decrease fsb without going through bios. the NB fan sensor should read 0 unless you plug a fan onto it, personally i have an 80mm antec and it doesn't read it, but i tried a old CPU fan and it worked fine.
COOL AND QUIET Another personal choice, I don't use it because some people have had there CPUs power down in the middle of games, and such
(it goes down to 800 MHz) others had small bugs in there system that went away when they disabled it. But some like it and use it a lot. Good for energy savings.
want to get your boot time down
start by selecting OS drive as first in boot sequence, you can always change bios when you want to boot from floppy or CD(which isn't often).disable floppy drive seek
then clean out your startup folder under rt click explore start button.
try and get services set to auto down to about 25. defrag your hdrive routinely,
. ditch wall paper, and get rid of windows startup screen.(msconfig,boot.ini.and check noguiboot). keep your drivers updated
if you can find it you can use then try bootvis, but microsoft doesn't support it anymore.Programs ..some useful free utilities are listed below, check goggle, until i make links for them.
SiS Sandrahttp://www.sisoftware.net/, a good all around benchmark,burn in and, info display
3DMARK.http://www.futuremark.com/download/.Mostly a Video tester, good for checking OC though.
Microsoft Memory testerms memtester
+86memtest.http://www.memtest86.com/..and Prime95http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htmvery good mem testers, and tests for stability
spybot search and destroy, http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=homeand
Lavasoft's ad-aware http://www.lavasoftusa.comgot to have for house cleaning.
atitool, http://atitool.ocfaq.com/oc ap for ati cards,click find max core let it go for 15min or so,then set back to default, and click find max mem...for 15min or so, and now you have the max you can set your video card too.(but set safety limits before manually setting)
[STRIKEOUT]mbm5 mbm5 link good alternative temp readings to corecenter.[/STRIKEOUT]
good program but discontinued.
OTHER USEFUL PROGRAMS
Norton utilities, good all around disk and OS utility
Norton Internet secuirity, or similar firewall and virus protector
Norton ghost, or other drive image software fantastic for backups
BF1942...lol just fun
HOME NETWORKING I will add this part because of additional posing of errors
dealing with USB Broadband routers...try using on board realtek or other Ethernet connection it will save your sanity.
well i have a real poor mans router setup for you
2 Ethernet slots, one for for broadband router and one to share.
if you only want one other computer, use a crossover cable, otherwise, use a hub or switch(better) and let Internet connection wizard and home networking on your machines work their magic,want a firewall download some software there are even, fairly decent free ones.the speed of the card isn't important because broadband still isn't over 10mb/sec yet, so blow the dust off that card in the closet and put it to work.or if your really brave or really cheap you can try to use the usb input from broadband, and on board ether, or firewire port, to link computers
Trouble shooting
for total no boot/post failure
I know you may know how to build a computer, and i know this is basic, so bear with me here, but at this point you have to do a methodical by the book check list.
revision
A: when you first install your motherboard make sure it does not contact case,
use all nine mounting points, make sure that your case either has built in risers, or use the small brass standoffs, and don't forget the fiber washers.
when you installed your CPU you:
1 ___you properly handle equipment so no static damage can occur, (properly grounded)
2____.you fully lift the CPU ziff socket arm up, orient the gold triangle marking arrow,pins and it easily dropped into socket, with no bent pins ,
3 ___ backer plate mounted carefully no missing pieces of the board flying off, ( i have seen people launch capacitors, and the like )
4 ____obviously you removed the plastic thermal pad cover, and heatsink was evenly locked down, and fully seated, and correctly plugged into mobo cpufan1.
and you fully removed old thermal pad/grease and applied new artic silver, or new heatsink with plastic on pad,you didn't reuse old paste or pad.
memory
5 _____memory stick(not sticks, at this point you just want to get it working, not full blast with a gig of ram etc)is fully seated and properly oriented in slot, and is 184 pin ddr non-registered , non ecc ram , and you have tried different non corsair, non twinmoss, brands that have been known to work. and/ or
tried to set manually mem speed/voltage for some models of corsair, twinmoss, and kingston)
6.____ plug in only power switch pins 6,8and power led to jfp1, pins 2,4 and they are turned correctly,
7. ____your new psu has the 20 pin and square 4 pin power connector plugged in to jpw1 turned right and fully seated. and has a bare min of 18a on 12v+ rail.
8 ____your video card is fully seated an locked down,also securely screwed in.
9 ____your floppy drive cable iss facing right way (pin1 is matched with red stripe)
10. ____you have ata cables for hd and CD set to master/slave or cs. with hard drive set as master, end of cable.
11 _____the power plugs are all fully seated, including psu rear plug,floppy ,hd, and CD.
12. _____keyboard(ps2) and mouse plugged in, monitor plugged into video card,
13 ______every thing is fully secured in case, side cover is off.
14 ______CMOS jumper is set 1,2 keep data, all usb stuff is unplugged, except for dbracket.
power it up, one beep, fans spin, in psu and CPU, and video card,
you get no bios found error,(promise adapter not finding satas..no worries)
or hit Del to go into bios, set boot order, and .......
.........your now at the end of the road, and it should by all means work,
now what i am after,
there are no bent pins, on CPU, you reapplied artic silver paste.
no loose wires,
properly applied heat sink with fan cooling,
you have tried different brands of known ,to work in an MSI k8tneo
ddr ram 1 stick at a tme.
you have tried different video cards, and in case of higher end card, the external molex power supply as plugged in,
you have tried different ata hard drives
you then have tried have set up your SATA drive correctly .
everything is securely plugged in ..fully seated and oriented the right way?
what are d-bracket error light, and any beep codes?
you have tried a different wall outlet, you have changed surge protectors,
you never hot plugged video cards, hd cables or power etc.
i know this redundant , and basic , it is not meant to be insulting , it is meant to be a checklist and rule out all basic errors and potential problems
if your mem bandwidth is slower then 3000..like 2400 this may help
Received from a user - Slow memory 1T Command fix
OK, here's what to do. Download the following ftp://ftp.vector.co.jp/pack/win95/hardware/other/wpcrs120.exe extract it, and run InstDD.exe. It'll ask to reboot, you don't need to do it right away, at least I didn't have to. Fire up WPCRSET.exe and do the following. Under startup, click on start, and under device, click enable. Now click add. The bus device and function will be 0,24, and 2. The register and data values will be the 93,08. There we have it! Enjoy everyone. I know I'm much happier now.
Here's a graphic to make it easier:
I will add more by edit, or post as needed but i should post now so it can be put to use.
I would like to Thank BAS,wonkaboy, Jocko, ethereal, Tiresmoke, Reilly, and the many others whose valued input helps solve problems.

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amd 64=12a @12V
ati 9800=7.5~10.5a @12V (assuming 90~125 watts) a max load,
a 9600 ir nvida 5200 used far less power
so your already at 18a with no fan,s no hd, no cd,no dvd ,no mobo chipset , no mem, no sound..etc
If you exclude the motherboard, memory, etc like you did there, the amd 64 draws 7.2A @ 12V.
90~125W for an ATI 9800?! [irony]Are you working for a PSU manufacturer or what?[/irony] That's just absurd.
Go read this post to get a feel for the actual power consumption: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?postid=297061&sid=#post297061

K8T Neo-FIS2R - P20378 Sata Controller option missing in BIOS. Cannot disable

A few hairs left....& those are disappearing quickly.......!!!!
I currently have Windows XP PRo running under a Promise SATA Drive. (NO RAID REQUIRED)
In order to allow for a fallback situation (which I am still using swapping between WIN XP & Vista), I found a 20GB IDE Disk attached it to the standard IDE controller & did a clean install of VISTA ULTIMATE on the 20GB Drive...So Far so good.
Next I booted up changed the boot sequence to pickup the 20GB IDE drive first ...Vista Came up....Still so far so good.
Then I found my mouse ...& both USB printers were not recognised.....2 days later I have them all going okay....one problem at a time....
The only issue left ... I cannot see the SATA Drive attached to the promise controller.....I have tried following a few of suggested methods to load the promise drivers that are around......still no luck. Most of the posts I see are around installing VISTA on a SATA drive...my case is just seeing a SATA drive this not the O/S disk.
Moving on ...no luck with the Promise Drives ...so I have tried changing to the VIA Controller by unplugging the SATA cord from the Promise controller & plugging into the VIA Controller ... I boot up & still no luck...The BIOS picks up the VIA change as I see a option to use <TAB> to setup RAID during bootup.. I do not want RAID only a single SATA Drive. One of the things I read was to turn off Promise via the BIOS settings . The manual indicates I need to access this by going to the "Onboard PCI Controller option", here I should be able to turn off the P20378 S.ata Controller...
my problem is ...I can see only the Lan Controller as a option to disable/ enable the other options including the P20378 S.ata Controller.. are not visible.. hence I am unable to disable the Promise SATA Controller within the BIOS..... HELP pretty please..... I can happily run VISTA but I do not have 150GB visible to me & my current disk space is tight.....I need that 150GB ...........
signed...frustated NOOB
PS I have the most recent drivers/ bios etc according the MSI's Online S/W synch tool (which I run in XP Pro as the vista version fails.... DOH)
MB --> K8T NEO FISR2
Memory 1GB
Appreciate your help ..... TA

I agree with Hans, as far as we know there are no drivers for Vista to use the Promise controller, yet.
Same old, same old, Vista and no drivers.
You just have to wait and hope there wil be Vista drivers for the Promise controller.

MSI K8T Neo - System & Application crash/reboot

Windows XP Pro, SP 1
MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R Via K8T800 Athlon 64
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Processor
Corsair CMX512-3200C2PT 512MB DDR400 PC3200 XMS X (2)
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
REVOLUTION 7.1 PCI SURROUND
VANTEC ION VAN-400B (400W) Serial ATA
Running the CL @ 2.5 and the other timings are set to auto via the BIOS. Ran Microsoft memory diagnostic all last night and got over 120 passes successfully. Problems have occurred when playing fairly intensive video games, e.g. Blade & Sword. Sometimes it will just reboot out of nowhere and sometimes the game will immediately stop and I will see just the desktop. Nothing posts on the Event Viewer for Application or System logs. When the machine reboots it appears to display a memory dump and when you follow the post on the Microsoft site it ascertains that it is a driver issue, yet it is not specific enough to tell you which driver. I have updated all the drivers from MSI and ATI, and am running Cool & Quiet.
If you know what I might try to do in attempts to fix this please let me know.

hey thanks for your reply. yes i made sure everything was enabled and i just fixed my own problem. just for the heck on it i called msi tech support [talked to a real smart fella] and he told me that sometimes you need to jumper the drive when your using a single hard drive. i played with it a few minutes and it worked. its installing xp right now. i guess you learn something new everyday.

MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R - Suggestions

Hi,
I have just ordered these parts:
AMD Athlon 64 3200 (Socket 754) - Retail (CP-060-AM)
Asus DVD-E616P1 16X DVD-ROM / 48X CD-ROM - Retail (CD-002-AS)
Western Digital Caviar 120GB Special Edition 8MB Cache Serial ATA - OEM (HD-009-WD)
Antec Sonata Piano Black Quiet Case - 380W TruePower Silent PSU (CA-003-AT)
MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R (Socket 754) Motherboard (MB-010-MS)
Sapphire Radeon 9800Pro
I am still stuck on RAM, despite searching other topics. Which PC3200 RAM actually works to the speed that it should, I'm not convinced by the MSI list.
Will Kingston HyperX PC3200 work to its full standard? I was initially looking at KingMax PC3500 RAM which is a lot cheaper, however it seems pointless to spend so much on quality parts and then get cheap RAM(although PC3500 should be faster, I assume it shouldn't make any difference if I'm not overclocking). I don't think I can quite afford Mushkin RAM, as I have about £220 for 1GB.
Secondly, with my PSU be able to power the system without overclocking?
Thanks for any ideas.

I would also suggest a better PSU, I had a Enermax 350W before and it only just coped + a high pitched whining sound
Plus a Pentium 4 and an AMD64 = not equivalent in terms of power consumption. If you already have that PSU, then fair enough try it. But if your still planning to buy it... I would go for a better one. Just my 2 cents

K8T NEO startup failure

Hello...
I just started up my second AMD64 system and something is terrible wrong...
It just won`t boot.... I can`t boot from cd-rom or floppy OR disk.
The D-bracket sometimes shows the 2 right leds red (vga card something) and sometimes the upper left led red. The last one is the one that concerns me..
"-This will set low stack and boot via INT 19h" ?????
I don`t have a clue what this means, but the screen goes black and there is no action on disk or cd.
Hardware is:
AMD 64 3000+
MSI K8T NEO-FSR Hovedkort Socket 754
Sapphire Radeon 9800SE, 128MB, 256bit
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 200GB
Corsair TWINX512-3200 DDR-DIMM 512MB
This runs on a "old" chieftec power type 360w.
Have seen a lot of problems with AMD 64 and powers, but i have another pc......
Hardware is:
MSI K8T NEO-FSR Hovedkort Socket 754
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 2.0 GHz
Corsair Value S PC3200 DDR-DIMM 1024MB
Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB S-ATA (2)
Thermaltake Venus Silent Boost K8
Q-Tec Midi tower ATX L-MD, Silver Black L-Series, w/350W AMD/P4
Just a 350w power there, (and it is a q-tec ) but that one works just fine...
Really need some help here guys....

90% that PSU is no good. what are the amps?
Int h often caused by boot files. MBR. but may be redtified by a decent PSU
PSU is most important component on your system, why destroy the comp with a cheapo, disaster waiting to happen one. Buy the best you can findm then worry about rest of system.
Until a good PSU, with clean power is fitted, it is difficult to know where to begin. HDD bad format, Bios setup. Vid card, Ram, etc
Cheers
jocko

K8T Neo-FIS2R - raid 1 refused by Win2K

Hi,
I had K8T Neo-FIS2R for some time, working flawless. I had 1 ATA drive (Maxtor 120GB, 8MB) on a VIA controller. Then I decided to buy another similar one ATA HD, and create a raid 1 array (ATA+ATA) on Promise controler, with existing Win2K SP4 instalation.
Everything went smoothly, creation of array and image on second HD. Then reboot, Windows start loading... and suddenly BSOD. Message: "If this is your first time seeing this message...check for viruses...corrupted HD...blah blah".
Tried loading again and again - same situation.
Then I discarded array, rebooted, and created it again. Same problems. And headache & rage.
Few days later, I had a possibility to borrow a new SATA Maxtor 120GB drive, and try with ATA + SATA raid 1 combination. Done everything from the beggining, creating of array and image, at the end...again BSOD with the same message. 100% identical like in 2xATA combination.
I thought that maybe the problem is in "original" ATA HD, so i tried with another combination: second (new) ATA HD from first situation (image of original HD was still on it, but with discarded array), anda SATA from second as a "slave" (so, this one is deleted in creating of this array). Same, same, same... Needless to say, at the end I tried with SATA as "master" and ATA as "slave". No progress.
BIOS and all drivers were/are up-to-date. All HD`s work OK in a "no raid" situation, on both controllers.
I have searched this forum, but didn`t find similar problem. If you have some ideas/suggestions/solutions, you will be a hero, for saving a one young man`s life
Thanks in advance,
Buca,
Belgrade, Serbia

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Originally posted by Tiresmoke
Promise ATA raid can only work though the Promise ports which in the case of ATA or Ultra ATA drives would be IDE3 port. Then you must have Promise Raid turn on in the Pheriferals menu in Bios as well as set up under the Promise Raid section that will come up directly after post.
You will need to read the Promise Ademdum manual that came along with the regular user manual for setup details.
Thanks for trying to help, but I have done that all. I can create a raid array with ATA drives only on Promise...

HEAVY Problems with Linux x86_64 on K8T Neo

Hello, Community!
I experience *HEAVY* Problems with Linux on my MSI K8T Neo (FSR). Since the customer support of the german dependancy seems to ignore my call for help I'm in good hope that maybe you can help me out or give me some useful advise.
First some Hardware Specs of my system:
MSI K8T Neo FSR, Rev 1.1, BIOS 1.5
AMD Athlon 64 3000+
3x 512MB Kingston DDR400
Enermax EG365P-VE (350W) PSU (3.3V/5V 185W Combinded)
MSI GeForce FX5200 TDR 128
Adaptec ATA RAID AAR1200A (HPT370A) in PCI Slot 3
Hauppauge WinTV PCI in PCI Slot 5
Maxtor 4K040H2 (40GB) as Primary Master
JLMS XJ-HD166S DVD-ROM as Primary Slave
LiteOn LDW-411S DVD+/-RW as Secondary Master
LiteOn LTR-52327S CD-RW as Secondary Slave
2x Maxtor 6Y060L0 (60GB) on HPT370A as Primary Master/Slave
Seagate ST380020A (80GB) on HPT370A as Secondary Master
Maxtor 32049U3 on HPT370A as Secondary Slave
KeyTronic KT2001 USB Keyboard
Microsoft Optical Wheel Mouse Blue USB
I've downloaded Fedora Core 1 x86_64 as well as the lately released Fedora Core 2 test 3 x86_64 distribution. Both CD sets have been burnt ok.
If I try to install Core 1 x86_64 (Kernel 2.4.22-1.2179) the kernel crashes with a "attempted to kill idle task" panic. As far as I've learned the workaround is to give idle=poll as kernel parameter. This resolves the kernel panic, but the installer randomly crashes with segfaults at a random stage; sometimes while loading anaconda, sometimes during package install.
If I try to install Core2 test 3 x86_64 (Kernel 2.6.5) I get a, completely new, error message while the kernel does the PCI Scan:
******* Your BIOS seems to not contain a fix for K8 errata #93
******* Working around it, but it may cause SEGVs or burn power
******* Please consider a BIOS update
******* Disabling USB legacy in the BIOS may also help
I removed my USB keyboard, connected a PS/2 keyboard, disabled to USB Legacy option (I need it enabled in order to use Ghost) in the BIOS and booted again.
The error message is gone now, but as in Core 1 the installer still crashes randomly with segfaults. I'm still unable to go all the way through the installation routine.
I even tried to install Fedora Core 1 "i386": again there are segfaults during install.
Contrary to the problems I experience while trying to install Linux my Windows XP (32-Bit), as well as a test installation of Windows XP 64-Bit, run like a charm without any problems. Strange but true.
Since I already read trough several posts in this forum I already tried running my system with memory sticks from another manufacturers as well as with a more powerful PSU. I even removed my tv-card and raid-controller.
Nogo - Linux still crashes randomly and Windows still works without any flaws.
Has anyone a clue what I can/must do to successfully install Linux?
Might it be that the BIOS has some flaws that might cause the problems?
Has anyone managed to install Linux (what distribution) on this Mainboard?
I would greatly appreciate any help. If you need to know something I haven't provided here please feel free to ask. I'll answer ASAP.
Thank you in advance.
P.S.: The system is *NOT* overclocked in any way.

And now even the last problem is solved ...
Since I was successful in installing a basic Gentoo system but still failed to install Fedora I reflashed BIOS 1.5. This time I cleared the CMOS by unplugging the PSU, setting the jumper and removing the backup battery.
Yesterday I only flashed it with the /a switch, which should have cleared the CMOS as well - so far for the theory. However, it once went fine as I upgraded from BIOS 1.1 to 1.4.
After setting up the BIOS options again I gave it another try and booted from Fedora (Core 2 test 3) install CD: No more complains about the CPU errata, although USB legacy is enabled, and I even went through the installation without any problems.
It seems as I will stick with Gentoo as my primary distribution since the kernel makes a more "mature" impression than the one from Fedora (i.e. the K8 PowerNOW! Driver seems to be missing in Fedora's Kernel 2.6.5).
By using an spare Athlon XP Mainboard I worked out that only one of my three Kingston memory sticks had errors - I'm going to replace the faulty stick tomorrow.
Now for the conclusio:
Thanks, especially you JLP, for helping me with my issue. Without the advise to use Gentoo, and the included MemTest86, I wouldn't have been able to track down the error to a faulty memory stick that fast since Windows always ran fine.

[Athlon64] CAN'T SEE SINGLE SATA DRIVE / K8T NEO no Promise controller

I have a K8t NEO -the cheapskate version with no PROMISE SATA controller or on-board Firewire
I have been running on XP SP2 on 2 IDE drives, everything is ok. I added a SINGLE SATA drive and turned the VIA SATA controller on in BIOS. I did the MSI Live Update and have the latest VIA SATA driver, latest chipset, latest BIOS, latest EVERYTHING. At boot, the VIA SATA controller reports my Hitachi SATA as Channel 0 Primary" in the SATA devices table. Going into the SATA RAID menu it tells me "You can't make RAID with just one drive" which is true, of course. But the point is the controller SEES the drive.
I've run MSI Live Update and have the latest BIOS, latest SATA XP driver, latest EVERYTHING.
Windows XP doesn't see the SATA drive.
In XP I see a VIA RAID CONTROLLER in Hardware / Device Manager which is DISABLED. When I right-click then click ENABLE on the VIA RAID CONTROLLER the machine reboots immediately. I tried safe mode, same thing. I tried BIOS settings of "No PNP O/S Installed" and "Yes PNP O/S Installed" and reset the NVRAM. No change.
I think there must be an IRQ conflict.... I have a sound card (on-board sound is turned OFF in BIOS) and AGP video card, and that's it- no WiFi NIC or anything else to eat up IRQ resources. I use the Realtek on-board ethernet.
I tried my Windows 98 partition and that booted, detected the new hardware (VIA SATA) and I installed the driver from the MSI CD and Win 98 is happy with the SATA drive..... it sees the drive just fine.
How do I make Windows XP see the SATA drive?

Have you tried starting XP with CD and entering recovery, log on as admin and see if SATA drive is there? Remember to "F6" with a floppy drive of SATA drivers for
-XP-... I'm assuming you already have as you said all is uptodate. When the boot BIOS for the VIA SATA apprears and you press "TAB" I believe it is, you can mess with the SATA functions. Sorry if does not apply to your compy or you've already done all this.... BTW you CAN run a RAID array with one HDD, at least thats what I did on my Promise controller.
In my Device Manager under Disk drives it looks like this (notes bracketed are noting position):
Promise 1+0 Stripe/RAID0 SCSI Disk Device (Bus Number 0, Target ID 1, LUN 0 (G:\ 1-160GB IDE Seagate/notice ONE drive)
Promise 2+0 Stripe/RAID0 SCSI Disk Device (Bus Number 0, Target ID 0, LUN 0) (F:\ 2x200 SATA)
ST3160023A (Location 1 (1) VIA IDE D:\)
VIA SATA RAID 0 SCSI Disk Device (Bus Number 0, Target ID 0, LUN 0) (E:\ 2x120 SATA)
WDC WD800JB-00CRA1 (Location 0 (0) VIA IDE C:\)
Under the boards BIOS, is the SATA drive listed under the BOOT table??? In my system it lists the above 5 partitions (7 HDD's total), floppy, 2 CD/DVD drives, etc...
Oh also in Device Manager IS the VIA SATA controller appearing in the "SCSI and RAID controllers" tab??? I have set mine to just SATA before and of course now it says "VIA SATA RAID Controller"... for you it should read "VIA SATA Controller". Remember there are 2 different drivers for the SATA controller, one for SATA and one for SATA RAID. Look on your floppy disk or if you saved out the updated driver. I made a new floppy with the latest XP drivers. When booting from WINXP CD, and promted for "F6" and press it, later it will show you TWO different drivers after reading the floppy disk for XP. You obviously want the non RAID driver... hope that helps somewhat... g'luck

K8T Neo - no boot from CD/DVD

I have a K8T Neo FSR board, with 512 MB, one 250 GB ATA hard drive and a DVD writer/drive. It refuses to boot from the DVD drive. I've done all the standard things - going into BIOS, checking its boot order, disabling the SATA drives, even slowing the memory speed down from 400 mHz to 200 mHz. And yes, I've removed the battery and power cable and let it sit for 24 hours to reset the BIOS. None of it works.
The DVD drive runs during POST, but does not run during the time that BIOS is looking for boot devices. It does not boot. BIOS recognizes the drive, but whether I set it to "auto" or "CD/DVD" in BIOS, the drive does not run.
I have used a floppy disk (a modified Win 98 boot disk) that loads ATAPI drivers. The disk boots, but the drivers do nothing to help me boot or even read anything from the CD/DVD drive.
I've even put in another power supply (that has 22 amps on the +12V line) and still, no joy. Anyone have any ideas?

Okay, please note the new signature line. As I say, this info will not help you one bit. These are all common components, nothing exotic and nothing unearthed from a swamp. The person on eBay who sold me this motherboard says that the system booted fine for him when he ran it, he did not overclock the processor, and he is mystified as to why the system won't boot.
I have swapped out the DVD drive for others (notably a Pioneer from my Mac G4, I think it's a DVR-106), and I did try different settings on the drive (master, slave, cable select) and tried it on the other channel. I've switched out the secondary IDE cable for a new one, and it's a cable with a key plug so it can't be plugged in the wrong way. And I've tried auto settings and the DVD/CD setting in BIOS for the drive. I cannot set up UDMA mode, since that selection is greyed out in BIOS. That shouldn't matter, as that is a high-performance setting, and booting is a low-performance task. Remember, the drive light is not coming on when BIOS starts going through its boot devices.
And to answer another post, yes, I've set the entire boot order to CD/DVD. Plus "try other devices" so that at worst, it'll boot off the floppy.
At this point I'm prepared to follow BOSSKILLER's suggestion and flash the motherboard BIOS to 2.2 with a floppy boot disk, unless I hear a lot of objections. Other than that, I'll have to take this to a tech, who probably won't have a clue and won't give a damn about a homebrew system ("Why don't you just throw all that in the trash and buy a nice, new system from me? There's nothing wrong with PC Chips!")
Sorry if this is a bit abrasive, but this is something that should not happen, especially to an MSI motherboard.

Digital video capture and the K8T Neo

I was wondering if anyone has had any luck capturing digital video with a machine based on this motherboard. I've tried using various programs, including Adobe Premiere Pro, Scenalyzer, DVIO, and Movie Maker. Regardless of what I use, I end up with enough dropped frames to make the video very choppy in places, especially if I try to capture type-2 (video for Windows) DV, as Premiere Pro requires for editing.
Here's my setup:
MSI K8T Neo
AMD Athlon-64 3400+
2 X 512 MB KingMax PC-3200 RAM
Hercules RADEON 9800 Pro graphics
1 X Maxtor 60 GB Ultra ATA hard drive (model 5T060H6)
2 X Maxtor 250 GB SATA hard drives (model 7Y250M0)
Plextor 708-A DVD+/-RW
I've tried the following configurations of hard drives with no success:
500 GB RAID0 array on Via controller, 60 GB drive on tertiary IDE, running from one drive and capturing to the other
250 GB drive on Via controller, 250 GB drive on Promise controller, 60 GB drive on secondary IDE, tried capturing to each
I've run some tests of disk write speeds, and they seem more than adequate for video capture (approximately 50 MB/s write for the SATA drives, 25 MB/s for the Ultra ATA drive).
I've read that there were issues with PCI bus throughput with slightly older Via chipsets, and that there have generally been issues with Via ATA controllers.
So, has anyone successfully used this motherboard to capture digital video? What did you have to do to prevent frame drop?
Thanks in advance for any advice...

I was wondering if anyone has had any luck capturing digital video with a machine based on this motherboard. I've tried using various programs, including Adobe Premiere Pro, Scenalyzer, DVIO, and Movie Maker. Regardless of what I use, I end up with enough dropped frames to make the video very choppy in places, especially if I try to capture type-2 (video for Windows) DV, as Premiere Pro requires for editing.
Here's my setup:
MSI K8T Neo
AMD Athlon-64 3400+
2 X 512 MB KingMax PC-3200 RAM
Hercules RADEON 9800 Pro graphics
1 X Maxtor 60 GB Ultra ATA hard drive (model 5T060H6)
2 X Maxtor 250 GB SATA hard drives (model 7Y250M0)
Plextor 708-A DVD+/-RW
I've tried the following configurations of hard drives with no success:
500 GB RAID0 array on Via controller, 60 GB drive on tertiary IDE, running from one drive and capturing to the other
250 GB drive on Via controller, 250 GB drive on Promise controller, 60 GB drive on secondary IDE, tried capturing to each
I've run some tests of disk write speeds, and they seem more than adequate for video capture (approximately 50 MB/s write for the SATA drives, 25 MB/s for the Ultra ATA drive).
I've read that there were issues with PCI bus throughput with slightly older Via chipsets, and that there have generally been issues with Via ATA controllers.
So, has anyone successfully used this motherboard to capture digital video? What did you have to do to prevent frame drop?
Thanks in advance for any advice...

K8T Neo FSR with Audigy 1 Problem

I just received a major upgrade, for me anyway, last night. ALL I was getting on boot was 4-RED LED lights on the D-Bracket2 connector. I was ready to RMA the WHOLE thing to Tiger Direct, when I decided in one last ditch effort to try again.....I pulled my Audigy, and wham, it booted normally. Now let me describe.
1. I KNOW it's not a power issue, as I had EVERYTHING but Sound and Video removed, and unplugged, including hard drives. The D-Bracket2 LED's were still all-red on boot.....system would not POST.
2. Pulled ALL hrdware from system, except Video and Audigy, same results.
3. Last try, pulled EVERYTHING, including Audigy, and it booted normally.
4. Re-connected everything, except Audigy, re-installed Windows XP SP2, no problems, system runs.
I tried EVERY PCI slot with the Audigy, ALL with the same results; system would not run with it in there. The card was good 15 minutes prior on the OLD Abit Board. (meaning it works.)
ANy ideas???
System Specs:
K8T Neo FSR MB
Athlon64 2800+ CPU
GeForce Ti 4200 128MB Video
512MB Mushkin Green Memory (1 DIMM)
Maxtor 160GB HD
WD 20GB HD
45X CD-ROM
24X CD/RW (Sony)
onboard NIC, Sound (Audigy problem made me resort to the onboard sound)

Suggestions:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1104458&CatId=1078
The above might be only 420W but it has 18 amps under 12+, which is fine for your setup.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-148-002&depa=1
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=719596&CatId=1079
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=719582&CatId=1078
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1120272&CatId=1078

K8t neo fis2r - core center not functional after installing sound card

Hi. I had been using Core Center with Dynamic Overclocking enabled and all was well. When idle, my amd64 3000+ (2.0ghz), was running at 800mhz. Under load it would go up to 2100mhz. But yesterday, I installed an Auzentech x-plosion sound card and after i installed the driver, the dynamic overclocking stopped working, my cpu is running at max all the time. (The variable fan speed function still works).
I checked the IRQ and there is no conflict, I uninstalled the amd64 driver and core center and reinstalled. Still does not work. I uninstalled the auzentech driver, rebooted, and cancelled new hardware wizard. Then the variable cpu frequency feature worked. Once I install the driver for the auzentech, dynamic oc stops working. I was thinking to try another pci slot but it appears to be a software issue rather than a hardware issue. The new version of Core Center does not work with my board even though msi says it's compatible so I'm still using the one that always worked. The amd driver is the latest and also always worked.
Has anyone else had a similar problem, perhaps using the auzentech sound card with this board and Core Center? Or does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
K8T Neo FIS2R
AMD64 3200
AMI bios version 2.2
1.5Gb pc3200 memory
nvidia quadro FX 1100 128mb AGP
Antec 430W ps

Hey guys, I just went to AMDs site to get the dashboard utility mentioned and in the readme, it stated that in XP, the power option needs to be set to portable/laptop. But in the past, I read that it needed to be set to "always on" and that it is, in fact, what I had it set to before when cool n quiet was working. Now I change it to "portable/laptop" and it works and set to "always on" doesn't work anymore. So now Core Center reports I'm at 33c @800mhz at no load. I don't get it??? I'll have to try an alternate utility just to verify that is indeed working.
btw, QV, I checked system properties, (right-click my computer > properties, or "system" in control panel) and on the "general" tab, it indicates an AMD64 3000+, 2.0GHz. But I'm pretty certain the clock frequency is dropping now as reported by core center because of the decrease in the cpu temp at idle. Am I looking in the right place in XP? I have XP pro, SP2
Again, thanks for the input and Happy New Year

[K8T neo 754] S-ATA Smart under XP64

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