K8T Neo-FIS2R - 3200+ - Mushkin Level 1 RAM: Optimal Memory Settings

Just got a K8T Neo-FIS2R with a AMD Athlon 64 3200+ with 1g (512MB X
2) Mushkin Level 1 PC3500 RAM as recommended by Anandtech on his High
End System roundup:
www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2041
I am having a HUGE problems with memory settings in the BIOS.
On AUTO, the memory is only autodected at DDR200, which I found odd.
I them took memory setting in my old hands and things don't seem much
better:
I made these changes:
MEMCLOCK: DDR400
BANK INTERVEAVING: AUTO
BURST LENGTH: 8 BEAT
CL: 2
TRCD: 3
TRAS: 5
TRP: 2
This was unstable at first and bumped the DDR Voltage to 2.7, moved
the sticks to DIMM1 and DIMM3 (instead of DIMM2), and it seems stable,
but not very fast. according to Sandra Scores
Any recommendations for Memory Settings? Why would the MB not
autodecte DDR400 RAM? I am not looking to overlock...just maximize
the CPU and memory I have.
Maybe I just need to get new memory. What is the best memory for this motherboard?
Thanks,
Steve

I'm running the same mem (see my sig). Since its PC3500 I attempted to tighten the settings to those you had listed (2,3,2,5). It was not Prime95 torture test stable at even the stock 200 MHz FSB using these settings. Upping the voltage to 2.7 did not increase the stability in my system at these settings. The memory ran perfectly at AUTO settings, but was clocked at 2.5,3,3,8 I believe.
Keep in mind that level 1 is advertised at 2,3,3. My system is 100% stable at 2.7V for me up to 210 MHz FSB at these settings (I haven't tried any faster). My TRAS is set to 6.
Hope this helps a fellow Mushkin user

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Msi k8t neo fis2r problems part 3

sometimes when the computer is turned on it just turns the fans and leds on but doesnt boot up...
most of the time it loads up and i boot to the windows xp cd and i install the drivers for sata and then when it reaches the point of copying the files it will give me a bsod and say that there is a problem with the irql driver and then force me to shut the pc down..
sometimes it makes it past that and will begin to copy files onto the hard drive, like somehow the data is becoming corrupted..however it will start to say that the files cant copy randomly and it will allow me to retry..they will copy the 2nd time usually..i can keep hitting retry and it will usually go by..it gets to 30 something % and then crashes to bsod just giving me some random error..for some reason the files keep screwing up that go on the sata drive....I just replaced the old power supply that wasnt working with an antec true watt 430 watt power supply, so i know it isnt that..
i just cant figure out what the heck is going on..any help would be appreciated.my specs are
"IRQ NOT EQUAL OR LESS"
athlon 64 3000+ cpu
msi k8t neo fis2r motherboard
mushkin special cas 2.0 2-2-2-5 512 mb pc 3200
western digital 8mb cache 80 gb sata hard drive
sapphire radeon 9800 pro 128 mb 8x agp

fyi look an your cd sticker ity will show power, consumption, but they are way lower than you would think, hard drives,can be only 10 watts, less then some case lights , and fans, cd are similar.. your video, is the biggy somewhere between 90~150 watts..yikes .next to the cpu..and the mobo can use 50 or so (not sure about new mobos) not to mention the ram 1024 is @40 watts or so., dont forget about 25watts per pci card, not counting the sound card which can be double....
ergo the need for a big psu..
the combined total ratting on a psu is not the max number that the psu is rated, that is surge value.. so a 500 may only hold 400 sustained , and that will drop as the machine heats up, so in the end your 500 may onlyy pull 366 @50'c...

K8t neo fis2r overclocking

I am hoping i can get some sort of overclock out of this board. I know without the agp/pci lock it will be limited. But I was wondering if anyone out there has any input on what i might be able to expect before I get too crazy with it. I planned on using the Dynamic overclocking but I dont know whether I will get results with that. Any help is appreciated.
I am currently running:
Athlon 64 3000+
MSI K8T Neo FIS2R
1GB Mushkin LVL II pci 3500
connect3d radeon 9800 pro 128 mb
2x western digital raptor 36gb in raid 0
420W Power Supply

Malenfant:
Didn't do anything special, I just worked up to that point increasing in steps of 5. Wish I could give you a suggestion, but it just worked. stays cool also under a 100% load 24/7 (foldin) I run temps of 38 to 40
Join the MSI FOLDING TEAM............Please we can use the help

[Athlon64] K8T Neo-FIS2R RAM Question

Hi All
At the moment I have 512mb of Corsair 3200 RAM (2x 256) in a MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R, and I was wondering if it would be ok to put another 1gig of non Corsair in with out it going nuts at me.
Thanks for any help.

Many thanks for the help.

[MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R] 2xCMX512-3200 DDR400 memories (corsair)

I have this motherboard:MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R (MS-6702) and currently i'm using a Kingston memory and the computer runs fine. But i've buyed TWINX1024-3200 (2xCMX512-3200 DDR400) but when I put only this memories the computer after some time or when booting restart suddenly...
Could it be about the bios version, my actual version is v1.0 and I'm using AMI BIOS.
i've runned memtest+ and i get this: http://korpro.org/numb/PICT1348.JPG

I am in almost the exact same situation.
MSI Neo-FIS2R
AMD XP 2800+
2 sticks of DDR400 Corsair XMS memory (CMX512-3200C2) 512mb each (total 1gig)
Any combination of memory together does not allow the motherboard to boot. I get no beeping or warning sounds. Everything powers up but the display remains blank.
Things I have tried in many different combinations:
TRCD = 5, 4, 3, auto
DDR Voltage = Auto, 2.7, 2.65
DDR 200, DDR 300, DDR 333, Auto
Memory in bank 1+2, 1+3, 2+3
Along with those bios setting combinations, I have tried using several bios versions:
v2.2
v2.0
v1.9
v1.8
v1.4 <--- (Stuck with this bios for the moment, since the ami flashing utility HANGS when attempting to erase the boot block in step 2 of flashing procedure for any newer bios.)
As a consequence of several days of trying unsuccessfully to get both sticks of memory to work, I have given up hope on this motherboard.
Why is it so difficult to get two sticks of memory working properly on this motherboard?
Has anyone got another trick or technique or setting I can try that may work?
Alternatives:
Scrap the MSI motherboard -- never buy another piece of MSI crap again.
Buy a single stick of 1gig memory.
Buy a new motherboard from another manufacturer known to work properly -- at the very least not have these memory configuration issues.
Worst motherboard experience I have ever had, unfortunately.

MSI K8T NEO-FIS2R: RAM problems

I have the motherboard K8T NEO-FIS2R with AMIBIOS 2VMS V2.0 010505.
I tried these DDR-RAM:
DDR-RAM 512MB PC400 CL3 Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512
DDR-RAM 512MB PC400 CL3 Samsung
but the motherboard recognizes only 256 MB for both. The RAM are good: I tried them in an other pc!
Now I have installed an A-DATA ram 256 MB and the motherboard recognizes 256 MB!
Do you think that my motherboard is defective?
Thank you in advance.
P.S. I'm sorry for my bad english.

No the memory controller is onboard the CPU so in any case the MB is not defective. However the CPU revision may hold you back on some RAM especially if you mix make and model RAM on the same channel. A socket 754 CPU only has one channel so all RAM must be matched to work properly.
If those Sticks can only be seen as a wrong value when used by themselves it is likely that either they have errors or the timings in Bios are improperly set to azllow them to work. In this case you can normally find out what is going on by running memtest86. If you get errors on test 5 or 7 then you have timgs timed improperly and any other errors would show bad RAM.
Another case is not having enough power for everything to work properly together. Usually this happens when you don't have enough 12v amps for these newer rigs.
Post complete specs and test results and maybe we can help you further.

MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R - Suggestions

Hi,
I have just ordered these parts:
AMD Athlon 64 3200 (Socket 754) - Retail (CP-060-AM)
Asus DVD-E616P1 16X DVD-ROM / 48X CD-ROM - Retail (CD-002-AS)
Western Digital Caviar 120GB Special Edition 8MB Cache Serial ATA - OEM (HD-009-WD)
Antec Sonata Piano Black Quiet Case - 380W TruePower Silent PSU (CA-003-AT)
MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R (Socket 754) Motherboard (MB-010-MS)
Sapphire Radeon 9800Pro
I am still stuck on RAM, despite searching other topics. Which PC3200 RAM actually works to the speed that it should, I'm not convinced by the MSI list.
Will Kingston HyperX PC3200 work to its full standard? I was initially looking at KingMax PC3500 RAM which is a lot cheaper, however it seems pointless to spend so much on quality parts and then get cheap RAM(although PC3500 should be faster, I assume it shouldn't make any difference if I'm not overclocking). I don't think I can quite afford Mushkin RAM, as I have about £220 for 1GB.
Secondly, with my PSU be able to power the system without overclocking?
Thanks for any ideas.

I would also suggest a better PSU, I had a Enermax 350W before and it only just coped + a high pitched whining sound
Plus a Pentium 4 and an AMD64 = not equivalent in terms of power consumption. If you already have that PSU, then fair enough try it. But if your still planning to buy it... I would go for a better one. Just my 2 cents

New K8T Neo FIS2R won't post

I have looked at all the other threads in this forum, but can't find the solution.
Specs:
New K8T Neo FIS2R
New A64 3000+
New Mushkin 3500 Level One (Cas 2) 2x512MB
New Antec 550 (24A on the 12V)
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
When I give it power, all the fans come on, the 4 LEDs on the bracket stay lit up, and then don't change, but I get no video or any other indications (such as beeps). The 4-Pin power connector, is securely connected in the proper location. The standard ATX connector is also secure. I'd link to a picture to prove it, but my camera is charging right now.
Currently I have only power wires, power switch, system speaker, video card, and 1 stick of RAM in the first slot. I have tried it without the video card, without RAM, with RAM in different slots, just about any combination I can think of. I have even cleared the CMOS a few times. Nothing changes, I always get stuck with the 4 LEDs. I don't have anything connected to the USB headers either (that was mentioned in another post).
I know some people have mentioned that the Antec 550's 24A on the 12V isn't great, but it should be more than enough amps, the way my system is setup right now.

Hi
It does not sound like a major prob, it sounds like a PSU or memory problem, anyway of checking MOBO with another PSU with at least 20A on the 12v. Also check the memory sticky at top of the posts and see if your OK memory wise, another possibility is that one of the mounting screws is tracking from the board - try removing screws and see if it boots, also check none of the cables are touching the case or MOBO.
MOBO and CPU seem fairly resilent, so faulty parts are not to likely, although one never knows. Another thought the Jbat1 Cmos jumper is on pins 1 & 2, 1 is marked on board, and you could try clearing CMOS. a corrupted bios could also cause this.
Best of luck, lets know how you go
Jocko
PS. looking at the stickys at top, Bas has put one there about a compitition by MSI, one of the questions is about Radeons needing extra power( has an April 1st entry date!!), it is worth checking, does your Radeon have its own supply, you could always remove it and see if it boots.
Cheers

MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R VIA K8T800 Issues

I am thining of switching from a P4 system to a athlon 64 system. Only I have a few problems.
Will I be able to use an amd athlon 64 3000+ on the MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R VIA K8T800 motherboard??
and also will I be able to use my OCZ 1GB (512x2) DDR533Mhz PC 4200 RAM (DUAL CHANNEL) on the motherboard as well?

Hi
I use Elixir from Ebuyers, thats the cheapest I could find, works flawlessly on the AMD 64 3200+, the label says
' M2U51264D88HB3G-5T
512MB DDR 400MHz- CL3
PC3200U-30330
The sticks were taken from a KT4 Ultra, where they also worked faultlessly.
Hope it helps

K8T Neo-FIS2R/FSR no POST

I have a K8T Neo-FIS2R/FSR (MS-6702) which is, along with all my other components (I'll list them later), over a year old. It has been running just fine until the other day. I have not modified any hardware or BIOS-settings recently.
The day before yesterday my speakers put out a high-pitched shriek and the screen turned black. I then turned off the computer (it seemed to still be running, fans spinning). As I switched it on it let forth 8 beeps followed by a paus, and then 8 beeps again, over and over. I switched the graphics card for another one, no difference.
I then left it turned off for a few minutes. Then I booted it up again, and voila, it worked fine. Then after a few minutes it died the same way, and when I rebooted it it started beeping again.
Switching graphics card doesn't help. I powered it on without a graphics card plugged in. Then it made 8 beeps, and then silence. The cycle was not repeated, as it was when the card was in.
I then used another motherboard, another CPU and other RAM, same graphicscard and harddrive, and it boots into Windows just fine and seems to be quite stable for the day I've tried it.
I then switch back to the K8T-motherboard with it's CPU and RAM (still same graphicscard and harddrive as the other one), and it boots fine. After almost an hour it dies again. On boot, beeps. Wait a few minutes, boots again, then dies. Beeps next time. Etc.
The 8 beeps apparently mean there is a problem with the video card. I have tested two video cards that both work fine on another motherboard, no difference.
Because it dies after a while when it has rested, I suspect some sort of overheating issue. I put a bigass fan blowing at the motherboard and video card but that didn't seem to do anything. The fan on the video card is clean.
I have hooked up the D-Bracket 2 that accompanied the motherboard. It has some lights flashing depending on what is going on, and it halts on "Early Chipset Initialization", which is phase 2 of 16 (1st being "System Power ON"). When I press the power button, the LEDs on my memory sticks flash for a few seconds (showing activity), and the D-Bracket lights up. Then the memory-LEDs go to rest (inactivity), and the D-Bracket halts. Fans keep spinning but there is no life. No beeps.
After leaving the computer off for the night, I cleared the CMOS. The computer booted and ran fine for a couple of hours, then it suddenly made a noise in the speakers, and the monitor went black. Fans still spinning. The little light at the monitor indicating that it is turned on was flashing, as it does when the computer is off and the monitor is on.
This is the hardware in my system at the moment. I have removed plenty of stuff to rule out other components but even with just this it won't work. No mouse, keyboard or other drives attached, just this.
CPU: Athlon64 3200+
Memory: Corsair TWINX1024-3200XLPRO DDR
Power: Thermaltake Purepower Butterfly 480W W0020
Output: +5V (35A), +3.3V (28A), +12V (17A), -5V (0.3A), -12V (0.8A)
Graphics: Gainward GeForce 6800Ultra 256MB GDDR3 AGP8X, "Ultra/2600 Golden S",
Motherboard: K8T Neo-FIS2R/FSR (MS-6702)
Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda IV ATA 7200 RPM
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 957p
Any ideas, suggestions or questions? I am stumped.

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I have removed plenty of stuff to rule out other components but even with just this it won't work.
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Graphics: Gainward GeForce 6800Ultra 256MB GDDR3 AGP8X, "Ultra/2600 Golden S",
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+12V (17A),
If your graphics card is like mine (see sig) with two power connections at the back you may have stressed the PSU over the last year to it's final end. Borrow or buy another PSU with at least 24 amp on the 12v supply. Your current PSU with only 17 12v amps was bound to fail. Especially since you state you had other hardware at one time. CPU Graphics card, case fanes and drives are all calling on the 12v rail to power them and your PSU just might not have it any more to do the job and the highest draw is at startup.
Try another PSU.

Msi k8t neo fis2r help

hello. in need of a little hand here.
board won't post.
i've just thrown together my new system with monitor and power cable plugged in:
64 3200+
k8t neo fis2r
crosair ev ddr400
his radeon 9800 pro ice-q
tagen 480w psu
when turned on the fans all start and the power led flashes on and off slowly. screen never displays.
mobo never came with d-bracket so i can't diag the problem myself, scared it's a cpu prob.
cheers
NIB

so far all i've only wanged in the items listed (512 of the ram) and i have connected the additional 4-pin, although thanks for the mention - it's always the stupid that i end up overlooking. I've noticed that when the psu is plugged into some older p3 & p4 systems their bios' don't post. think there's a problem with the psu, although it claims to be 24a at 12v.
Cheers
NIB

Msi k8t neo fis2r odd post issues

well, i went over to a friends house, pulled out his ram..put in in my computer..it posted and boot to windows..perfectly..
so then i go into the bios and up the voltage..so that i can put my old ram back in..it stopped responding when i updated the bios becuase it set the voltage back down to default..so..
i put my ram back in once the voltage is set to 2.75 v and it booted a few times perfectly..i unhooked everything and came home..well
now i try to boot the pc and once again it will not boot? is it possible that the cmos got cleared when i unplugged the pc???
i know my ram isnt bad..i ran it on a friends system while playing games for hours..this motherboard is driving me insane..someone really dropped the ball when they made these..so many issues with having to fool around with voltages etc..cant even get the damn system to post if the voltage isnt up and even then sometimes it seems to not want to ..its crazy..
i know none of my components are NOT broken because ive stresssed them all fully in other peoples computers..
if anyone has any clue as to how i can get this thing to post to get back in the bios plz reply..im at wits end
my system specs are
athlon 64 3000+
512mb mushkin special 2-2-2 ram (i will change the timings to the recommended slightly delayed timings but i have to actually get into the bios to make this possible)
msi k8t neo fis2r bios 1.4

Southmike is sooooooooo right on that one. I see a lot of folks running stuff on other computers with + results and then nothing on the Athlon64 - equipped systems. Well, I think it's O.K. to a certain point, at least to find out if an item is not defunct. But, most of the problems are RAM and PSU related. After that, I believe the BIOS is the biggest issue. And I think some of our forum readers don't actually understand the settings they mess with. I for one, do not fully understand a few of them myself! That is why it's important to make changes in BIOS one at a time.....if you are not as experienced as a lot of folks here at the forum are.

Msi k8t neo fis2r wont post plz help

I recently updated my bios for the motherboard, and now I can't get the pc to post. Before I had the pc going but it kept getting gpfs and crashing to the desktop from games..
I was having problems with it not wanting to post before but I raised the voltage to my ram and fixed that, the problem is that when the bios got wiped from the upgrade it lowered the voltage on the ram..now i just cant get it to post at all..if anyone has any suggestions on how to get this powered up so i can change the voltage again please let me know
I am only using one ram chip...
my specs are
athlon 64 3000+
512mb mushkin special
sapphire radeon 9800 pro
msi k8t neo fis2r mboard
antec 430 watt 12v - 20a
i cant afford a new psu and i know this one is ok as my friend tested it in his identical system for 24 hours ..
my mboard just seems to refuse to post ..i upgraded my bios and the voltage dropped because the update sets the defaults back to default..
after i upgraded the bios, it posted once, i was in the bios and i saved some settings and restarted..i was going to go back and up the voltage on the ram again so that it would post (i had solved my problem similar to this earlier by upping the ram voltage to 2.75) but it was too late and after it shutdown it wouldnt turn back on
also, ive tried all 3 ram slots with the chip, and ive cleared the cmos with the jumper 3 times..

your complete specs may help .. if running two sticks of ram you could remove one stick ... you could also reset the bios using the clear CMOS jumper .. but without more detailed specs ppl will struggle to help you

MSI K8T Neo FIS2R- Corsair Twinx XMS4000

Two weeks ago I have bought one MSI K8T Neo FIS2R with an AMD Athlon64 3200+.So far I used the computer with one DIMM of 256MB DDR PC2100 memory. This morning I have installed in the motherboard a pair of CORSAIR TWINX XMS4000 which comprises of two DIMMs of 512MB DDR 500MHz memory.
The computer did never worked again. As soon as I have turned it on, although the whole system got power the screen was blank and the motherboard did not boot. Moreover, the D-Led system of the motherboard has all its leds red which according to the manual means that the processor is probably damaged.I have never overclocked my system and before install the memory it worked perfect. I have disconnected the whole computer but the problem still exists. Can you advise me what I have to do to fix it? What is the cause of the problem? Is there any way so that I can fix it?

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Originally posted by karinio
Two weeks ago I have bought one MSI K8T Neo FIS2R with an AMD Athlon64 3200+.So far I used the computer with one DIMM of 256MB DDR PC2100 memory. This morning I have installed in the motherboard a pair of CORSAIR TWINX XMS4000 which comprises of two DIMMs of 512MB DDR 500MHz memory.
The computer did never worked again. As soon as I have turned it on, although the whole system got power the screen was blank and the motherboard did not boot. Moreover, the D-Led system of the motherboard has all its leds red which according to the manual means that the processor is probably damaged.I have never overclocked my system and before install the memory it worked perfect. I have disconnected the whole computer but the problem still exists. Can you advise me what I have to do to fix it? What is the cause of the problem? Is there any way so that I can fix it?
Hi dude i had identical problem, bought i extra stick 512 400 ddr and the system wont start. Make sure your motheoard support the made of ram. In my case Asus did not support corsaire. Also it could be the slots which are damage.
bye

K8T Neo-FIS2R No boot - Early Chipset Initialization LED

Went from a MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR with XP 2500+ O/C'd to 3200+ to an MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R board with a retail Athlon 64 3200+ and a Thermaltake Silent Boost Heatsink/Fan combo.
RAM = 2 x 512MB Apacer PC2700 (MSI approved).
Video= ATI 9800 Pro AIW
Antec Sonata case with 380Watt True Power +12V-18A, +5V-35A, 3.3V-28A
Seagate 160GB SATA 7200.7 drive.
On boot, system hangs at #1 red LED indicating Early Chipset Initialization.
Video is blank, all switches work, all drives spin up, no beep codes, just dead.
Tried just CPU, Fan/Heatsink, Video and still same.
Without any RAM, system beep codes for RAM.
Tried RAM in slots 1 and 2, 3 and 4 and just one by itself. Never a change to the DBracket light.
Cleared BIOS and retried. Nothing. No video at all.
What does that "Early Chipset Initialization" mean anyway? I guess the board is bad. This is it's first boot attempt.

Well, I think I know what the problem is, aside from the PSU... I tried my brother-in-laws 550 PSU that pushes 24A on the +12V and it did not budge. I think it is the board. I did an RMA with Newegg and will be sending it in for a replacement.
Thanks for the advice on the PSU's... I will be heading back to Newegg to get one.
As an aside, I did get a new PSU since my last post. It was a Maddog Multimedia 550 that is made by Thermaltake. The voltage is not listed on the outside of the box, so, once I opened it, I noticed a couple things. One, it is a 480 not a 550, and two, the +12V is a paltry - abismal - 18A! This was CompUSA's best power supply and cost $140 after taxes! (I wanted one now, not in the few days it takes Newegg to get me one). Needless to say, it is going back. Since the numbers were not on the outside of the box, they are taking it back without a restock fee.
I will quell my desire for now now now and wait until a good one from Newegg arrives. I will let you know of my results!
ps - I am toying with the idea of the PC Power one... !

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