K8T Neo-FIS2R - Best Bios Version?

The subject kinda says it all!
I read a topic here where someone was having a problem, installed an older bios, and his problems were solved!
Is there a "preferred" bios for my motherboard (K8T Neo-FIS2R)?
Things are more or less working reliably, except that I cannot boot properly when Cool & Quiet are enabled, but I'd be willing to take the risk of downgrading the bios if you guys feel an older one potentially better.
Thanks!

do not update BIOS when everythink is working fine. BIOS flashing is always risky.
if you got USB key, you can use our Tool (easy & safe way to flash) ---> https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=108079.0
guide for BIOS flashing from CD/DVD --->
http://www.bios-chips.com/e/bios-boot-cd.htm

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K8T Neo FIS2R with bios 1.9=lower 3dmark01

Hey guys long time no post because my rig has been running flawless until I decided to go out and upgrade my ATA/100 hardrive to a WD SATA 200GB HD. Ok Install was good and all that but then I started reading post over at Viaarena about people with the VT8237 southbridge are experiencing slow data loss using SATA hardrives not running in a RAID configuration like myself.
So I saw the new 1.9 bios on the MSI website that list a new bios revision for the Via Raid controller and I think "Great before I even get a chance to start having problems" I will just upgrade my bios from 1.7 to the new 1.9. Well I did that and all appeared to be good, games, bechmarks etc etc until I ran 3dmark01 and noticed that my score had dropped 500 points to 21,500. I made sure to reboot before each test to ensure the most consistent results but still I always came up 500 points short.
So just for giggles I loaded the 1.7 bios back on the motherboard and low and behold it went back to the normal 22,051. I have never seen just a bios update effect 3dmark01 scores this much (The reason I use 3dmark01 and not 03 or 05 is because it is more cpu and memory dependent and 03 and 05 are more gpu dependent) so again I loaded the 1.9 bios back and BAM! scores dropped approx 500 points again. So now Im back at bios 1.7 and am hoping that I dont run into the corrupt SATA drive problem. Has anyone ever experienced this before?

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Originally posted by racingx
No problem one question for ya apple renegade have you run into any HD corruption issues with your raid setup?
No, like Bas said, if I stay below 218Mhz, i have no problem.
Did have a problem with HD temp that corrupted my array. I have my disks in these things:
http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=74&code=019
The top one became to hot, so I moved it to the 3,5"slot undeneath the floppy. The array has been fine eversince

Should I flash the bios? K8T NEO FIS2R

Ok... I have a K8T NEO FIS2R mobo. A couple of friends of mine have been telling me to flash the bios to the most current version... Then some other people have been telling me that it is too risky and I should hold off untill something goes wrong that I know a bios flash can fix...
I'm just wondering what is the concencious here... should I flash it, or should I stay with the current version I have now(the one that came with the mobo) I Like to have my computer as up to date as possible, but all the reports of bad flashes have me a little worried. This is a procedure that I have never done before, and I dont want to mess it up.
If I should flash, Any insight, tips, tricks, special instructions, etc... would be greatly appriciated.
Thanks!
Magnum

Thanks guys for the quick responces... I'm used to not getting a responce from forums for 12-24hrs and here it is less than 24hrs later and I have 10 responces.
I'm not at my computer in question right now, but I am almost positive that my bios is ver1.0. Same one that came with my mobo.
At this point I am leaning towards flashing... If basically the only way to mess it up is to have my power fail, then I dont think I will have a problem. I'll just borrow an UPS from work here to be on the safe side.
hypothetically if i follow the instructions to a tee(windows flash/live update) are there any other ways it can mess it up? I just want to get a hold on all the places where I could mess it up.
Will live update take me all the way through the procedure, or do I need a separate set of instructions to read off of during the flash?
Also what gear will I need... floppy disk? anything else?
Sorry about all the questions, just want to make sure I do this right the first time!
Thanks!
Magnum

K8T Neo-FIS2R and 2.2 bios problem

I flashed the bios of my K8T Neo-FIS2R to version 2.2.
Everytime I boot the system, I can just see the Windows XP logo appearing for a second, then the system reboots again.
I reflashed from a floppy to version 2.1 again, but still the same problem.
My HDD is a Western Digital SATA drive on the VIA controller.
Can somebody please help me out?
THX!
Marco

Thanks for your support!
After reflashing to 2.0 I still had the same problem.
The bios was not causing the problem. In some way, Windows couldn't load the SATA driver properly, I think.
I removed the SATA HDD from the VIA controller and connected it to the Promise controller, and surprisingly, Windows started again.
The HDD LED works on the Promise, but not on the VIA, so I left the HDD on the Promise controller. The LED problem is now solved as well.
I still don't know exactly what was going on. Anyway, it wasn't MSI or the new bios, it was Microsoft...
Marco

[Athlon64] MSI K8T Neo FIS2R BIOS Update when? CnQ no workie!

The MSI K8T Neo FIS2R (MS-6702) hasn't had a BIOS update since 3-4-2005!
I put a Sempron 64 3000+ in my motherboard, and was very disappointed that it is recognized as an "AMD Unknown Processor". Sure, it works, but one of the reasons I bought it is in the hopes of getting AMD Cool n Quiet to work. However, apparently the AMD driver can't recognize the CPU due to the old BIOS on the motherboard.
Every other MSI skt 754 board supports Sempron E6 revision already. Why not the K8T Neo FIS2R? Where have all the MSI BIOS programmers gone? I have been waiting 2-months for a BIOS update to support the E6 Semprons. I have asked and begged MSI Tech Support. I am tempted to switch to ASUS or some other company that is actually timely with BIOS updates. Only reason I haven't yet, is this board is everything I want EXCEPT for Cool n Quiet not working. It's starting to look like there is no BIOS update in sight, so I am very disappointed.
Anyone here work for MSI can confirm there are no plans for a BIOS update? Because I don't want to wait around for something that's not going to happen.

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply I thought the mods here are MSI staff... I was just kind of hoping there's MSI staff lurking here, seeing what people think of their products or seeing what people complain about.
No, pretty much C 'n Q is the only reason I'm disappointed, but it was something I was really set on getting to work since this is a server that's up 24/7, but isn't utilized but maybe 4hrs out of a given day. I could reduce frequency and voltage, but unlike C 'n Q, it won't automatically increase speed and voltage based on demand - which is something I want since although it's a server, I also use it as a regular PC as well.
I've even tried the 2.33 beta BIOS with no change, and even found a 5.52 BIOS in their BIOS testing directory. I guess that BIOS was for a different kind of 6702, although I had pulled out the peripheral modules with AMI's MMTOOL and they looked the same as the existing BIOS, but that BIOS killed my motherboard so it couldn't have been for a regular 6702. I had to desolder the BIOS chip with a heat gun, reprogram the old BIOS back on it with an EPROM programmer, and solder in a socket. I guess that shows my dedication to get C 'n Q working!

MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R, BIOS flash???

I'm trying to flash my bios but i get this wrong message after restart: CMOS SETTINGS WRONG, if you have built sata raid array previously, go to "P20378 sata controller" set as raid. I've tried that but it dosn't help.......what should i do???
Motherboard: MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R
Harddrives 2 x S-ATA Western Digital 250 Gb, 2 x IDE Seagate 80 Gb

i used to get that almost every time i update BIOS. I forgot the fix, but we need to know as Tiresmoke said whether u r at all using the promise. if Via serials r enough for u (which in this case they r since u only hv 2 sata hd's) then just use these and see what happens.
did u also try to load bios defaults? i think i used to do this when i get that error msg

6600GT not working with K8T neo-FIS2R

I recently returned a K8T NEO-FIS2R MB for repair. The problem was that the PS/2 and USB ports were broken. However the MB has been returned and the PS/2 and USB ports work fine. I posted about this several months ago.
Now the AGP port seems to be broken (not the actual slot). I have tried a 6800 Ultra and a 6600 GT (AGP version) GFX card in this slot. Both cards fail at the driver installation point. I have tried driver versions 66.93, 67.02 and 67.03. I also tried 3 versions of the via drivers 451, 453 and 455. Even tried XP with SP1 and SP2. The PC will sometimes BSOD, reset, won't boot into windows. The drivers sometimes install then other times they won't, etc. The problems only seem to be with the drivers for the GFX cards.
The 6600 GT works as I have tried it in another MB without any problems.
I know the memory works fine as I used memtest86+ for a couple of hours on the default settings without any errors and it works in another PC.
The spec of the PC is:
XP pro
K8T NEO-FIS2R MB
512MB corsair XMS at 2.5-3-7-3
XFX 6600GT
40gig HDD
FDD
Plextor CD writer
DVD Rom
PSU is a Q-tec 550W
I know Q-tec PSUs are not up to much from what I have read elsewhere in this forum, but I have had it running in a similar system with the 6800 Ultra installed without any trouble (even with the above MB before it went faulty). I have also tried a 400W PSU, that came with the case. The Voltages on the 12V line are between 12.00 and 12.03 when using the Q-tec PSU.
Has any body else had these problems with the 6600GT in the mentioned MB.
Also, how can I check the serial number on the MB with the label on the box, as this MB that was returned to me looks to “clean” to be the one I sent away for repair.
Thanks for any help

Hey, I'm glad to see a post on the new Gforce 6600GT AGP card. I just recently put together a brand new system (see my sig for specs). System runs great. The only thing I wanted to do was replace the video card, and after a great deal of anxiety I decided the Geforce 6600GT AGP was the best bang for the buck.
Well I got home, installed the card and never get passed the bios screen. (shows your processor, memory, memory siz), the screen u hit DEL to go into the bios.
The system doens't lock up, NUM LOCK can still be turned on and off, and CAPS can be turned of and on... but thats it. Just sits on that screen. I can't go into the bios either.
what settings do I need to do prior to isntalling this card to get it to work.
Let me know if you all need anymore details to help me out.
oh, I did reset my frequency to 10x200 (which is what I think the 3000+ is supposed to be at).

K8T Neo-FIS2R (MS-6702)

Hi,
I have a problem (I think ...) with my mobo MS-6702 (K8T Neo-FIS2R). I have seen in the forum some messages about the bios update, etc but I have to addmitt that I have not arrived to a clear conclusion.
I have found in the MSI web that this mobo has several version of the BIOS, all of them trying to solve some stuff with the cool'n'quiet feature and the Sempron CPU.
Adding more noise to the problem, I'm one of that kind of strange people that use GNU/Linux, and simple don't have a MsWindows to test. So, no corecenter, no windows utilities, etc.
In my mobo, using the BIOS version 2.2, I can boot with the cool'n'quiet enable, but the bios doesn't detect the speed of the fans (always 0rpm) and the system is unstable.
With the 7.1 version, BIOS see and show a correct (feasible value) but the system simple, doesn't boot. I'm using a kernel 2.6.26 (Debian Lenny).
The situation here is that the Linux people says that the BIOS is buggy and the manufacturer says that they _only_ support MS. So, as always, the user lost ...
So, my questions are:
1) why this kind of mess of version numbers of the bios?
2) some one of you have been able to run cool'n'quiet in a Linux and which parameters?
Best regards,
Leo

Quote from: Fredrik on 31-October-08, 07:44:52
Neither does BIOS, (but fairly close). The fan control resides in BIOS. I'm not perfectly sure it is SmartFan, but something like that.
I think thatthat part is the corecell technology in this case by MSI
Quote from: Fredrik on 31-October-08, 07:44:52
You can test it yourself, I believe, even if Linuxian: In BIOS load SmartFan or similar and lower the processor speed. Fans should/will spin down as a result of lower temp. Notice in the link that fan control isn't explicitely(?) mentioned. ...Neither is Sempron, if I remember correctly.
It's a combination betwend BIOS parameters and kernel functions, and all that to work together. With the 7.1 version of the BIOS, I can read the fan speeds, not like the other version.

K8T NEO FIS2R can't use the RAID controller....

I have this very strange issue.
As soon as I connect a harddisk to the Promise (378) controller of this board and assign it to an array, the system doesn't work like it should.
Symptoms:
- MS Windiag (a memory testing application) reports thousands of errors
- Memtestx86 causes a spontaneous reset within seconds
- I can try to install Windows, but the process never completes; during the installation everything works really really slow (partial XP installation takes over 2 hours!)
- Linux gives me a kernel panic while booting
My system specs:
- MSI K8T Neo FIS2R (bios 1.5)
- Athlon 3000+
- 2x 512MB PQI memory (tested with GEIL/Kingston/Infineon memory as well, the problem persists!)
- Radeon 9700
- Levicom PSU (34A RMS on 12V line) (also tried Enermax 460W and Antec tru power 480W)
- 2x WD Raptor 36Gb (RAID 0 array 1)
- 2x Maxtor Diamond plus (RAID 0 array 2)
- 4x optical drive
I just can't figure out what's going on here... if I don't use the onboard RAID controller everything is fine.... but I need it for my two arrays... (besides that, it should work, shouldn't it?).
Is this perhaps just a bug in the BIOS of my system? If so... MSI please resolve this issue, my computer is worthless for the time being.. :(

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Originally posted by Bas
Try this version of Memtest86.
YAY! This memory tester seems to work correctly..!
If I put a single module (PQI memory) in DDR slot 1 I get loads of errors. In slot 2 and 3 they work just fine. When combining two modules, using slot 2 and 3, I still get some errors (32, all above 1000Mb)... but it's the best I can get out of my 1Gb.
Is it safe to assume that this is a compatbility issue that can be fixxed by buying some supported memory?

K8T Neo-FIS2R Old Problem, New Issue

I made my system back in 2003 using a K8T Neo-FIS2R motherboard and a Barracuda 7200 SATA 160GB drive (ST3160023AS). If you don't remember, back then motherboards that supported SATA drives for main drives, sometimes needed extra drivers in order for the windows installation process to work. At first this threw me, but since then I have reformatted my drive a few times using the same disk with no issues.
5 years of file sharing can do a number on your harddrives, and it seems my Barracuda has finally died. It came time to replace my drive with a Western Digital Caviar 320GB drive SE16 (WD3200AAKS). I did not predict there would be any issue with replacing my SATA drive. I have another 500GB drive connected to my system used for only storage and the computer recognized it at once.
So I formatted my WD HD, to NTFS and made it active. Then I installed it in my computer disconnecting my other 500GB drive. I ran windows installation with my Windows CD (which I have used many times and I keep it in pristine condition).
I found that after I hit F6, and it gave me a selection of SATA drivers to use (used xp), it did not not see that drive was there when asking which drive to format (I repeated this many times). I set about making a new SATA boot disk thinking that my pre-used one had gone bad.
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=565
VIA VT8237(R) SATA RAID Driver (For floppy driver)
I followed the disk directions having already done it before. When I tried to install with my new drivers, I got this error.
"File\I386\NT5\viamraid.sys caused an unexpected error (4096) at line 2108 in d:\xpclient\base\boot\setup\oemdisk.c."
Now i KNOW my windows instillation CD is good, but just in case I used another windows CD and got the same error.
The only idea I can come up with is that I upgraded the bios to much and now it is having issues. My bios version is:
AMIBIOS A6702VMS V2.2 030405
SATA378 TX2plus(tm) Bios Version 1.00.103026
Does anyone have any ideas of what I can try? I have done all the easy stuff I could think off like try different cables, and plug in my SATA to the second sata port and not the first. I have run out of ideas.
The only list thing I could try was connecting my sata drive to the computer using a SATA to USB adapter, and finding the partition in windows through that way. For some weird reason windows will see USBs in the computer but not installed Sata drives. I am thinking I will install windows using the USB device and then try plugging in the drive directly. I have no idea if it will work.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Sombrenote

Quote from: sombernote on 11-July-08, 09:15:36
Thank you so much for your help.
I tried your two versions of your drivers, "VIA PIDE&SATA RAID.rar" "Promise 20378 S-ATA RAID.rar" neither of them worked well (I selected the "VIA RAID Controller(Windows XP"). I received a slightly different version of the last error "File\I386\NT5\viamraid.sys caused an unexpected error (4096) at line 2108 in d:\xpclient\base\boot\setup\oemdisk.c."
The (4096) was a different number.
I had used 4 different (yet old) disks, trying to get it to work. None of them did so until i tried it once more. This last time worked, it saw and used the drivers. I was able to get into the disk selection screen, and set to format the disk. As it started formatting (Quick), windows said that there was something wrong with the "Disk or CD". It then asked for me to install the SATA combo drivers. I let it detect the drivers I was using, and it kept saying something was wrong. I tried it 3 more times, and the last time it held and copied the files from the CD, to start windows.
It is obvious to me that I have either a bad disk, CD, Disk drive, or CD drive. This is quite possiblly my last format before I make my new computer. Thank you very much for your help. I would have had to start my voodoo magic tricks to get it to work.
Crappy floppy cause that
Happend to me many times as well, when you receive the error take out diskette and re-insert it, then load drivers again until works.
Of course simple solution is just replace the floppy drive to avoid "voodoo magic tricks"
Or best solution do a slipstream XP installation and integrate the drivers which you need in XP installation.
>>> Slipstreaming Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Create Bootable CD<<<
>>> Slipstreamed Windows XP CD Using SP2<<<
"Thank you very much for your help. I would have had to start my voodoo magic tricks to get it to work."
You are done well

K8T Neo-FIS2R V1.0, CPU Speed Problem

Hi, I got a Athlon64 3500+ (NewCastle) and K8T Neo-FIS2R V1.0 MotherBoard
Just downgrade my bios from 9.2 to 3.3 since the 9.2 bios does not show the correct +3v voltage in the core center and the website is recommending that old version of Athlon should use 3.xx bios.
But the problem occurs, the core center now shows the cpu speed is 1xx rpm and keep sending alarm. I use other software to check the fan speed and it is 2xxx rpm. The temp of the cpu is between 33 to 43 'C.The temp of the case stays at 42 'C. The voltage of the CPU is 1.52-1.53V. One time, somehow the temp of the cpu went up to 50'C but the fan is not turning faster to cool down the CPU. No matter what models (Cool&Quiet or User) I choose in the core center, it just did not go faster. Finally, I have set full speed of the fan in the core center to increase the speed of the fan.
My PSU is Enermax 450W, and I used 5V for my three case fans since they are really noise.
Any problems with my system or computer, or any recommemdation?
Sorry for my English, but I am doing my best.

Everest just has no readings that work for us. They never supported our board. None of the software gets a correct read on our 3.3v so no there is no answer. I have tried them all as have others. If reading the 3.3v is that important to you use a meter.
I have yet to ever trust Core Center. It lies. Keep in mind just how many MSI products it is used in. So far it has yet to be that accurate in any Via Based MSI product. Search the forum here for it. No one seems overjoyed with CC.

K8T Neo-FIS2R - 3200+ - Mushkin Level 1 RAM: Optimal Memory Settings

Just got a K8T Neo-FIS2R with a AMD Athlon 64 3200+ with 1g (512MB X
2) Mushkin Level 1 PC3500 RAM as recommended by Anandtech on his High
End System roundup:
www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2041
I am having a HUGE problems with memory settings in the BIOS.
On AUTO, the memory is only autodected at DDR200, which I found odd.
I them took memory setting in my old hands and things don't seem much
better:
I made these changes:
MEMCLOCK: DDR400
BANK INTERVEAVING: AUTO
BURST LENGTH: 8 BEAT
CL: 2
TRCD: 3
TRAS: 5
TRP: 2
This was unstable at first and bumped the DDR Voltage to 2.7, moved
the sticks to DIMM1 and DIMM3 (instead of DIMM2), and it seems stable,
but not very fast. according to Sandra Scores
Any recommendations for Memory Settings? Why would the MB not
autodecte DDR400 RAM? I am not looking to overlock...just maximize
the CPU and memory I have.
Maybe I just need to get new memory. What is the best memory for this motherboard?
Thanks,
Steve

I'm running the same mem (see my sig). Since its PC3500 I attempted to tighten the settings to those you had listed (2,3,2,5). It was not Prime95 torture test stable at even the stock 200 MHz FSB using these settings. Upping the voltage to 2.7 did not increase the stability in my system at these settings. The memory ran perfectly at AUTO settings, but was clocked at 2.5,3,3,8 I believe.
Keep in mind that level 1 is advertised at 2,3,3. My system is 100% stable at 2.7V for me up to 210 MHz FSB at these settings (I haven't tried any faster). My TRAS is set to 6.
Hope this helps a fellow Mushkin user

K8t neo fis2r - core center not functional after installing sound card

Hi. I had been using Core Center with Dynamic Overclocking enabled and all was well. When idle, my amd64 3000+ (2.0ghz), was running at 800mhz. Under load it would go up to 2100mhz. But yesterday, I installed an Auzentech x-plosion sound card and after i installed the driver, the dynamic overclocking stopped working, my cpu is running at max all the time. (The variable fan speed function still works).
I checked the IRQ and there is no conflict, I uninstalled the amd64 driver and core center and reinstalled. Still does not work. I uninstalled the auzentech driver, rebooted, and cancelled new hardware wizard. Then the variable cpu frequency feature worked. Once I install the driver for the auzentech, dynamic oc stops working. I was thinking to try another pci slot but it appears to be a software issue rather than a hardware issue. The new version of Core Center does not work with my board even though msi says it's compatible so I'm still using the one that always worked. The amd driver is the latest and also always worked.
Has anyone else had a similar problem, perhaps using the auzentech sound card with this board and Core Center? Or does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
K8T Neo FIS2R
AMD64 3200
AMI bios version 2.2
1.5Gb pc3200 memory
nvidia quadro FX 1100 128mb AGP
Antec 430W ps

Hey guys, I just went to AMDs site to get the dashboard utility mentioned and in the readme, it stated that in XP, the power option needs to be set to portable/laptop. But in the past, I read that it needed to be set to "always on" and that it is, in fact, what I had it set to before when cool n quiet was working. Now I change it to "portable/laptop" and it works and set to "always on" doesn't work anymore. So now Core Center reports I'm at 33c @800mhz at no load. I don't get it??? I'll have to try an alternate utility just to verify that is indeed working.
btw, QV, I checked system properties, (right-click my computer > properties, or "system" in control panel) and on the "general" tab, it indicates an AMD64 3000+, 2.0GHz. But I'm pretty certain the clock frequency is dropping now as reported by core center because of the decrease in the cpu temp at idle. Am I looking in the right place in XP? I have XP pro, SP2
Again, thanks for the input and Happy New Year

K8T Neo-FIS2R Hard drive configuration questions

Im looking to buy this board in maybe a month or less (K8T Neo-FIS2R), and was wondering about configuring hard drives
I will get the version which has the promise controller on board, fo SATA RAID
The Plan is to get two Wetern Digital Raptor drives and put them in RAID 0 together.
however i will still have my DVD Writer, removeable hard drive bay (takes one IDE) and my current 80GB Seagate drive.
if i use the SATA RAID, do i have to use IDE3 for all the other devices, or can i just plug them into the IDE1 and IDE2 slots?
Also you are able to select SATA to boot from in bios correct? i have never done raid so have no idea how it works . and do you have to load RAID drivers or something before setting up windows?

anyone?

Wrong multiplier k8t neo-fis2r

Just recently finished setting up my new computer and I noticed that CoreCenter is telling me that my system is at 200x5
Im using,
mobo: k8t neo-fis2r
and cpu: Athlon 64 2800+ Newcastle running at 1.5v
updated to version 2.2 of the bios
os is Windows 2000 pro sp4 and SuSE Linux 9.2 pro(main os)
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be 200x9. I've read that the multiplier can't be changed in my bios, if true is there any other way to change the multiplier?
any help is appreciated,
Shawn

whoops just figured out my own problem....it had to do with cool and quiet....sorry to bother

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