K8T Neo-FIS2R Disable Overclocking Completely!

ok so this is really startin to pee me off
ive got the latest BIOS for my K8T Neo-FIS2R (2.22 i think it is) and it seems to have no way to turn off the Dynamic Overclocking Technology (DOT) crap.
I have disabled cool n quiet, spread specturm and dynamic overclocking yet when my computer loads i have core centre loaded at startup, when i fire off a heavy app (something java'ish usually does the trick) the processor speed whacks itself up to anywhere from 3000-8000mhz and then drops back down to the lovely 2200mhz which it should be running at (its and Athlon64 3400+ chip) problem being i dont want it to do this - i want a stable system and this is causing me major headaches as there are short periods where it seems to almost freeze as the processor is changing from one speed to another
anyone any ideas on how to totally disable DOT before i ditch it and go back to a P4
thanks
ste

Check your BIOS revision with live update or watch the screen on boot up. Are you really using 2.22 or 2.18? If you are, try a BIOS version that isn't beta. Beta versions all end with a digit in the hundredths place, you should go for 2.0 as the jury is still out on 2.1 and 2.2. Get it here I'm currently stable at 1.9. Also, I'm still using Corecenter v1.6.0.0. I found that all of the newer ones (as of 6 months ago) caused a hiccup on speed changes and actually caused a little performance hit. If you want the old version of Corecenter I have, PM me and I'll email it to you if you can't find it elsewhere.

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I've tested notebook, minial power savings and battery. C'n'q still doesn't seem to work. Yes i've enabled it in bios. I downloaded the AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor Driver for Windows XP, Version (zip) 1.1.0.14 -
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Calling all old MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R users

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Is the MSI K8N Platinum nForce3 250, a better board compared to the old MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R? Not taking into account overclocking.
Like is the onboard sound the same or worse or better in your opinion? Is it any faster at stock? Are there any other advantages?
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I inserted the disk, held down CTRL and HOME and started the computer...
After a while of running through the messages of BIOS not installed and no SATA installed (which is correct), the floppy drive light comes on, and then after a while (afet I have released the CTRL and HOME keys) I get a message saying "Remove disks or other media, Press any key to restart" then nothing, if I press any key - it says the same thing untill I remove the floppy... and then it restarts again.
I have tried to restart using the floppy and the CTRL and HOME keys about 20 times so far - always the same result - I have even tried diferent versions of the BIOS.
Any ideas?
I only have one stick of RAM (256Kb - 333) and two IDE HD's
Many thanks in advance
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Hans
My Set up is as follows (from the top of my head as I am doing this form work)
K8T Neo FIS2R.
AMD 3300 745pin chip set.
1 stick of 512Mb ram (non branded - baught from Watford Electronics)
2 x 200Gb Maxtor HD's
1 40GB Seagate HD
1 DVD RW
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Dont know what else you need...
Anyway - last night I reset the CMOS in the way you described.
Still cant find the VIA settings in the Advanced Chipset or elsewhare - but I will. urned of SATA in Intergrated Peripherals...
Anyway - what then happens, is it says it cannot boot.
I tried using a Win98 SE boot disk - and all the drivers were listed as not possible to load or something...
Any way - deciding I did not have anotehr boot disk to hand - tried Symantec Ghost - still same result.
Finaly I tried WinXP Pro, and found that this installed all the bootup files no problem at all - what was then found was that my C: partition was missing - yup boot sector had completely disapeared.
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The strange thing is I never used to get this message before, and do not remember setting anything up for SATA - couldnt afford the disks at the time....
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2) Why did the flashing of the BIOS not work? I was following the instructions carefully - but nothing.. therefore in my Nooby mind this means there is something else wrong, stopping the flashing from working.
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I have faced problems when making OC in my Athlon 64 3400+. I do not obtain to increase the FSB for 213Mhz more than without that they occur stopped or reset. I am using 1Gb (2x512) of Ram (Corsair CMX 3200LL PRO).
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Take your sata drive off and you can overclock higher. There is no PCI/AGP lock so the speeds are affecting your sata drive. 210 mhz. system clock is about the limit before the sata drives start to act up.
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As soon as I connect a harddisk to the Promise (378) controller of this board and assign it to an array, the system doesn't work like it should.
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Originally posted by Bas
Try this version of Memtest86.
YAY! This memory tester seems to work correctly..!
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I have the motherboard K8T NEO-FIS2R with AMIBIOS 2VMS V2.0 010505.
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Hi
Should not make any differance, don't worry about the IRQ, let the comp sort it out, it knows whats where, better than humans do.
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