K8T Neo-FIS2R onboard sound limitation?

Reading southmikes unofficial guide, it seems you can't use both onboard sound AND a PCI sound card (such as a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz).
Is this still correct with the 1.6 BIOS? I want to use the microphone input on the motherboard, but the the TBSC for output.

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Originally posted by thegrommit
Reading southmikes unofficial guide, it seems you can't use both onboard sound AND a PCI sound card (such as a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz).
Is this still correct with the 1.6 BIOS? I want to use the microphone input on the motherboard, but the the TBSC for output.
It was fixed with BIOS v1.3. I use an SB Live! and the onboard sound card, too.
It was not driver dependent, the BIOS disabled the sound card that is behind the ISA bridge.
How can I say that? ISA bridge? There ain't no stinking ISA slot on this mobo!
Look at this listing that I obtained under Linux, particularly the devices labelled
as 00:11.0 and 00:11.5.
$ /sbin/lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8385 [K8T800 AGP] Host Bridge (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI bridge [K8T800 South]
00:05.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 02)
00:05.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 02)
00:06.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
00:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)
00:07.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 07)
00:08.0 Network controller: Harris Semiconductor Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 (rev 10)
00:0d.0 RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc.: Unknown device 3373 (rev 02)
00:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80)
00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3149 (rev 80)
00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 81)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 81)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 81)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 81)
00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [K8T800 South]
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV250 [Radeon 9200 SE] (rev 01)
01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (Secondary) (rev 01)
The numbers are BB:DD.FF (BB - bus number, DD - device number, FF - function or subdevice) Function number 00 means it's a main device, function numbers other than 00 with the same
bus and device number is something on or behind the main device.
With BIOS v1.2 and lower, 00:11.05 was not in the list when the SB Live! was plugged in.
The BIOS disabled the device. Or did not keep the info about it - it's almost the same since
Linux also use the PCI BIOS calls to detect the devices. I did not try "direct" mode that
talks directly to the PCI bridge.

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Originally posted by Bas
Try this version of Memtest86.
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