K8T Neo-FIS2R - raid 1 refused by Win2K

Hi,
I had K8T Neo-FIS2R for some time, working flawless. I had 1 ATA drive (Maxtor 120GB, 8MB) on a VIA controller. Then I decided to buy another similar one ATA HD, and create a raid 1 array (ATA+ATA) on Promise controler, with existing Win2K SP4 instalation.
Everything went smoothly, creation of array and image on second HD. Then reboot, Windows start loading... and suddenly BSOD. Message: "If this is your first time seeing this message...check for viruses...corrupted HD...blah blah".
Tried loading again and again - same situation.
Then I discarded array, rebooted, and created it again. Same problems. And headache & rage.
Few days later, I had a possibility to borrow a new SATA Maxtor 120GB drive, and try with ATA + SATA raid 1 combination. Done everything from the beggining, creating of array and image, at the end...again BSOD with the same message. 100% identical like in 2xATA combination.
I thought that maybe the problem is in "original" ATA HD, so i tried with another combination: second (new) ATA HD from first situation (image of original HD was still on it, but with discarded array), anda SATA from second as a "slave" (so, this one is deleted in creating of this array). Same, same, same... Needless to say, at the end I tried with SATA as "master" and ATA as "slave". No progress.
BIOS and all drivers were/are up-to-date. All HD`s work OK in a "no raid" situation, on both controllers.
I have searched this forum, but didn`t find similar problem. If you have some ideas/suggestions/solutions, you will be a hero, for saving a one young man`s life
Thanks in advance,
Buca,
Belgrade, Serbia

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Originally posted by Tiresmoke
Promise ATA raid can only work though the Promise ports which in the case of ATA or Ultra ATA drives would be IDE3 port. Then you must have Promise Raid turn on in the Pheriferals menu in Bios as well as set up under the Promise Raid section that will come up directly after post.
You will need to read the Promise Ademdum manual that came along with the regular user manual for setup details.
Thanks for trying to help, but I have done that all. I can create a raid array with ATA drives only on Promise...

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I have this very strange issue.
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Originally posted by Bas
Try this version of Memtest86.
YAY! This memory tester seems to work correctly..!
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Hi All,
new to the forum, have searched but nothing like my problem exist.
I have a K8T Neo FIS2R M/B and trying to get a single SATA HDD working for my secondary drive. primary is a IDE which works well and I want to leave it.
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I set it to SATA as you have indicated Hans, I did check that setting. Thankyou for checking.
Spray, I have tried the P20378 setting as well. You indicate that you need to press F6 when installing the OS. I have WinXP running already on an IDE master and am trying to set the SATA up as a secondary disk drive.
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Originally posted by saat0014
Are you getting the error when you insert the disk and it looks for the drivers on the disk? Or are you getting it at the Windows installation screen. Maybe you should try using the promise drivers and hook up your drives to the promise controller. Here's how to get the Seagate drives to work on the promise controller. Promise Scroll down to where I posted and you'll find hopefully all you need. If you need help, just ask
The error is coming at the Windows installation screen. The drivers already (seemingly) load.
I have tried installing the Promise drivers, although not as you posted in the linked thread. I only have the one SATA drive... do I still need to configure it as RAID?
I'll try this today. In all my years of building computers, I've never had as many problems as I have with this system. This is so frustrating.

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Output: [email protected]/28A,+5V@40/28.5A,[email protected],+12V@15A,[email protected],+5VSB@2A
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When I boot my computer I get a message invalid boot.ini then it says c:\windows and windows starts normaly. What I don't understand is why do I get invalid boot.ini Anyone knos how to fix this?

I'm sorry for no specs. Here you go
MSI K8T NEO-FIS2R
AMD 64 3000+
2X 512MB 400MHz Ceon CL=2,5
HDD 120GB WD
HDD 4GB SEAGATE
CDR DVD-RW NEC ND3520
CDR SONY
400W POWER SUPLY
primary master CDR DVD-RW
primary slave NONE
secondary master CDR SONY
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5 years of file sharing can do a number on your harddrives, and it seems my Barracuda has finally died. It came time to replace my drive with a Western Digital Caviar 320GB drive SE16 (WD3200AAKS). I did not predict there would be any issue with replacing my SATA drive. I have another 500GB drive connected to my system used for only storage and the computer recognized it at once.
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I followed the disk directions having already done it before. When I tried to install with my new drivers, I got this error.
"File\I386\NT5\viamraid.sys caused an unexpected error (4096) at line 2108 in d:\xpclient\base\boot\setup\oemdisk.c."
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Quote from: sombernote on 11-July-08, 09:15:36
Thank you so much for your help.
I tried your two versions of your drivers, "VIA PIDE&SATA RAID.rar" "Promise 20378 S-ATA RAID.rar" neither of them worked well (I selected the "VIA RAID Controller(Windows XP"). I received a slightly different version of the last error "File\I386\NT5\viamraid.sys caused an unexpected error (4096) at line 2108 in d:\xpclient\base\boot\setup\oemdisk.c."
The (4096) was a different number.
I had used 4 different (yet old) disks, trying to get it to work. None of them did so until i tried it once more. This last time worked, it saw and used the drivers. I was able to get into the disk selection screen, and set to format the disk. As it started formatting (Quick), windows said that there was something wrong with the "Disk or CD". It then asked for me to install the SATA combo drivers. I let it detect the drivers I was using, and it kept saying something was wrong. I tried it 3 more times, and the last time it held and copied the files from the CD, to start windows.
It is obvious to me that I have either a bad disk, CD, Disk drive, or CD drive. This is quite possiblly my last format before I make my new computer. Thank you very much for your help. I would have had to start my voodoo magic tricks to get it to work.
Crappy floppy cause that
Happend to me many times as well, when you receive the error take out diskette and re-insert it, then load drivers again until works.
Of course simple solution is just replace the floppy drive to avoid "voodoo magic tricks"
Or best solution do a slipstream XP installation and integrate the drivers which you need in XP installation.
>>> Slipstreaming Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Create Bootable CD<<<
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"Thank you very much for your help. I would have had to start my voodoo magic tricks to get it to work."
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The other day I put together a new system for a friend. I got the system to POST properly, the diagnostic lights on the D bracket are fine, and I can edit the BIOS, and the BIOS sees all the drives properly.
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I thought that maybe I had a problem with the jumpering of the drives so I messed with those in about every possible combination. I took IDE2 completely out of the system and just tried to get it running with the 40GB Maxtor and the Lite-On drive. I tried about every master/slave/cable select combination but nothing was working. In certain combinations the BIOS recognized everything as I intended. I've pulled everything off that doesn't need to be connected. Keyboard, monitor, and internal components are the only things connected.
I don't consider myself to be a guru at this business, but I can get through most things with enough trial and error. This really has me stumped.
Any help is certainly appreciated.
Thanks,
Heath

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Originally posted by chasmon
Hi all,
I have just setup up a brand new system but am having probelms getting it working. I want to install XP on a single Maxtor 160Gb drive.
I have my HD on Promise Ser1 and all SATA stuff in BIOS enabled. When I get to the screen I press F6 and then when promted I insert the floppy with the promise drivers on. I then get this message:
"File txtsetup.oem caused an unexpected error (4096) at line 1742 in d:\xpclient\base\boot\setup\oemdisk.c"
I can't get past this screen I have tried:
1.Drivers from the CD supplied.
2.Drivers from the MSI website.
Please help me this lot cost lots of hard earned I'm pretty gutted at the moment.
System:
Antec 380W PSU and Sonata Case
LG DVDROM 8163B
NEC DVDR/RW 2500B
Panasonic Floppy
Neo FIS2R mobo
Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 9 160Gb SATA150
Benq RF K/B & Mouse
Download the drivers from MSI again, and when you copy the contents of the XP folder to floppy ADD the file txtsetup.oem from the directory above that folder. Worked for me..!
Ian

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