K8T NEO-FIS2R RTL!!! My Initial impressions

K got my Msi and athlon64 3200 in yesterday swapped it into once of my spare cases and fired her up.
K, First problem i encountered was it would not boot off my 2x512 corsair pc3700 twin X ram.
then it would not boot of my Geil pc4000 2x256 Low latency (2.5,7,3,3)
I would boot off Hynix cheapo ddr400 stick. i then tried to manually set timings incase spd did not detect properly to no avail no matter what combination i used my top ram would not work.
I then tried a set of 2x256 Hyperx pc4000 modules. The booted and tested out fine.y
MSI needs to fix this glaring problem if your board doesnt work with Corsair top of the line Ram your A$$ out!!!
K after the ram fiasco every single thing went smoothly windows install as well as installing the useful utilities off the cd like MSI Core to overclock in windows. Windows and all utilities and updates installed without a hitch.
my spare 9800 pro installed without a hitch.
i then set about doing some quick benches.
i was getting, at stock settings,
3000 ish sandra memory bench
6044 3dmark2k3
49 fps Halo -timedemo (1024x768x32 all high no aniso or AA)
then i bumped it up to 220 which puts me at 2200 mhz
sandra went to 3350 ish
6360 on 3dmark2k3
58 fps same halo test.
i clocked my 2.6c p4 to 3.2 at 246 fbs with the corsair pc3700 2x512 at 3,8,4,4 1:1
i get about 5700 sandra mem bench
6038 3dmarks 2k3
48 Halo bench
even at default the xp3200 without being fully tweaked overtakes my 3.2 p4 at 246 fbs with 1 gig tweaked ram. Then when i overclock the hammer to 2.2 its pulling away pretty healthily. i suspect a stock 3.2 at 200 fbs would get trounced.
my testing was done with 2 9800 pros both clocked at 400/350 ( my main card will do more but to keep testing even i used the top speed of the slower one) using omegas latest cat 3.8 leaked drivers and default settings.
The good: So far this board has been easy to work with and setup, exhibiting great stability and performance.
Cpu running great temps under load using the stock retail heatsink. 53c loaded with Prime95 for 3 hours. Overclocking potiential seems to be good with these chips and the feature set is great.
The Bad: Will not allow the use of todays most popular and best Ram vendors top of the line products. Msi has to fix the issues with Corsair ram and that of Geil as well this is not the cheapo Geil either.
overclocking hits a wall at 220fbs i changed nothing went straight to 220 with what through initial testing appears to be complete stability however at 221 and above displays complete random instability, this tells me MSI is going to have to include pci/agp locks for this board to stretch its legs. i believe my chip has much more to offer.
Core windows tweaking and overclocking utility does some crazy stuff i cant move my vcore past default with it.
This is real preliminary i will see if i have to turn down from 220 to run my raptor raid 0 array of the SATA controller i should have more detailed information this weekend.
Does anyone know any other good places to share/compare MSI products at? also things like beta bios's or MSI sponsered forums ect?
M*Xi

Hi
Try that:
http://www.amdforums.com/

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K8T NEO-FIS2R RTL will not work Corsair 3700 2x512 or Geil pc4000 2x256

my corsair 2x512 pc3700 twinx will not work even with setting timings manually nor with the New Geil pc4000 (2.5,7,4,4) 4x256 all 6 modules are known good and tested on NF2 and Canterwood rigs.
ANy ideas on when a bios update to fix this might occur?
im stuck using 2x256 Hyperx pc4000
or even worse some old Hynix ram
thx M*XI

http://www.hardware-testdk.com/test_show.asp?id=2214
The first AMD test setup
CPU : AMD Athlon64 2GHz – 200MHz FSB
MEMORY : OCZ PC3700 – 512MB
HDD : Western Digital 40GB
OS : Windows XP Professional
During the test I experienced, that the system was unable to boot up with Corsairs XMS3700 memory module. So I had to exchange it with an OCZ PC3700 memory module.
seems your not alone

MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R - Suggestions

Hi,
I have just ordered these parts:
AMD Athlon 64 3200 (Socket 754) - Retail (CP-060-AM)
Asus DVD-E616P1 16X DVD-ROM / 48X CD-ROM - Retail (CD-002-AS)
Western Digital Caviar 120GB Special Edition 8MB Cache Serial ATA - OEM (HD-009-WD)
Antec Sonata Piano Black Quiet Case - 380W TruePower Silent PSU (CA-003-AT)
MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R (Socket 754) Motherboard (MB-010-MS)
Sapphire Radeon 9800Pro
I am still stuck on RAM, despite searching other topics. Which PC3200 RAM actually works to the speed that it should, I'm not convinced by the MSI list.
Will Kingston HyperX PC3200 work to its full standard? I was initially looking at KingMax PC3500 RAM which is a lot cheaper, however it seems pointless to spend so much on quality parts and then get cheap RAM(although PC3500 should be faster, I assume it shouldn't make any difference if I'm not overclocking). I don't think I can quite afford Mushkin RAM, as I have about £220 for 1GB.
Secondly, with my PSU be able to power the system without overclocking?
Thanks for any ideas.

I would also suggest a better PSU, I had a Enermax 350W before and it only just coped + a high pitched whining sound
Plus a Pentium 4 and an AMD64 = not equivalent in terms of power consumption. If you already have that PSU, then fair enough try it. But if your still planning to buy it... I would go for a better one. Just my 2 cents

K8T Neo-FIS2R / Kingston KVR400X64C25/256

As a first time poster my apolgies if this has been covered elsewhere - I have read most of the posts on this forum but found no specific reference. Please just point me in the right direction if i am wrong!
I bought the Kingston KVR400X64C25/256 modules because:
a) they were listed by MSI on the list of tested Ram
b) they were on Kingston's list for the K8T NEO &
c) they were in stock. However...
If installed in DIMM 2 & 3 (as per MSI tested RAM pdf) the system crashes on trying to load Windows. DIMM 1 & 2 'works' if that allows for 8 or 9 restarts/day. I tried 1 & 3 to see if that improved the situation, but if anything it was worse. I have tried increasing the RAM voltage to 2.6 but there is no discernable difference. Upping the TRCD to 4 makes little or no difference.
Memtest86+ initially found no errors (16 hrs/93 passes) but when left running for a week came up with 10 errors (8 in test 6, 2 in test 4). MemTest (http://hcidesign.com/memtest/) gives me an average of 10 errors for 300% pass.
I'm now trying running the memory at 2.7v (within Kingston's ±.25v range).
In the meantime, has anyone run this memory without any problem - i.e. is it a simple case of faulty memory? Equally, has anyone had similar problems and found a solution?
thanks
MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R
AMI rev 1.2
AMD Athlon64 3000+ AMD heatsink/fan (working temp around 32°C)
2 x Kingston KVR400X64C25/256 (DIMM 1, DIMM 2)
NVidia GeForce3 driver v53.03
Antec TruePower 430W +3.3V 28A, +5V 36A, +12V 20A. Max load 410W
IDE1 ST340016A (master) ST320014A (slave)
IDE2 MSI DVD-ROM D16 (MS-8216)
Soundblaster Live 5.1 platinum
Windows XP Pro Version 2002 service Pack 1

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Originally posted by Bas
Hi,
Sorry to say, but as soon as you get errors in memtest, no matter after how many hours, you need to try other memory.
As your memory seems to be unstable....errors in memtest are a NO-NO
hmmm! What if memtest, Prime95 etc. detect no problem over lengthy periods when sticks are individually tested in DIMM1 - as well as the system not crashing once - , but boot failures/memory dumps etc. abound when same sticks are individually placed at 2 or 3? Is this still a memory issue?
For what it's worth I have found Kingston's technical support more than helpful.
MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R
AMI rev 1.2
AMD Athlon64 3000+ AMD heatsink/fan (working temp around 40/42°C)
2 x Kingston KVR400X64C25/256 (DIMM 1, DIMM 2)
NVidia GeForce3 driver v53.03
Antec TruePower 430W +3.3V 28A, +5V 36A, +12V 20A. Max load 410W
IDE1 ST340016A (master) ST320014A (slave)
IDE2 MSI DVD-ROM D16 (MS-8216)
Soundblaster Live 5.1 platinum
Windows XP Pro Version 2002 service Pack 1

K8T Neo FIS2R Won't Recognize HDDs

Here’s my situation. I am not new to building computers, but new to the AMD Athlon64, MSI boards, and SATA drives.
I purchased the K8T Neo-FIS2R (601-6702-010) main board. A single 512 MB DDR memory stick is installed. The only card installed is the ATI Radeon 7500 ALL-in-Wonder video card. I cannot get the system to recognize hard drives. I have made many changes in BIOS, but have been unsuccessful.
At first, my intention was simply to take my almost new Maxtor Diamond Max Plus 9 120 GB ATA HDD and install it with the K8T Neo motherboard. The disk has been previously formatted with Windows XP Home, and has various other programs installed. It was working fine in my older system. I put this drive (properly connected to the IDE1 on mainboard), and the K8T Neo would not recognize the drive at all. In fact, all I received were messages that SATA Raid devices were missing (apparently the Promise controller complaining). Trying to deactivate the SATA controller via bios did nothing.
Next, I decided to purchase a Seagate 160 GB Barracuda SATA HDD (ST3160023AS-RK), thinking maybe then the system would at least recognize an SATA HDD. (of course a lot of this shows my naivete’ with newer SATA standards/componets/MBoards) Initially it was recognized, and I was able to use Seagate’s software to partition the drive and format it. However, after rebooting and attempting to install Windows XP, the drive was no longer recognized by the system. On the POST screen, the VIA controller does list it as master device 1 in the SATA.
Okay, here’s what I want: I want to install the Barracuda 160 GB HDD SATA as my boot drive, and take my slightly older Maxtor HDD and make it a secondary (or slave) drive. This means a mix of SATA and ATA drives. Since MSI’s documentation both in manual and the website provides no help (that I can find) on this issue, I need suggestions on what to do. The only explanation in K8T Neo manual is to create an SATA Raid array. I do not want to do this. I simply want the SATA as boot drive, the ATA as secondary (or slave) drive, and for both of them to peacefully coexist! How do I make the mainboard recognize this?

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Originally posted by saat0014
Are you getting the error when you insert the disk and it looks for the drivers on the disk? Or are you getting it at the Windows installation screen. Maybe you should try using the promise drivers and hook up your drives to the promise controller. Here's how to get the Seagate drives to work on the promise controller. Promise Scroll down to where I posted and you'll find hopefully all you need. If you need help, just ask
The error is coming at the Windows installation screen. The drivers already (seemingly) load.
I have tried installing the Promise drivers, although not as you posted in the linked thread. I only have the one SATA drive... do I still need to configure it as RAID?
I'll try this today. In all my years of building computers, I've never had as many problems as I have with this system. This is so frustrating.

Onboard 5.1 sound noisy - K8T Neo FIS2R

Hi guys, i'm new here.
Well, i got a K8T Neo FIS2R and the 5.1 sound is noisy. I've tried many different drivers, replaced my 5.1 speakers for new ones and it doesn't work properly at all. I've been using a 2.1 system and it works just fine. Has anyone seen this problem? any advice?
Thanks in advance
Kein

LOL OK you can save us time by replying to that end the next time. Thanks.
I know it may seem trivial but I can't count how many times a suggestion was assumed to have been tried and it turned out to be the fix in the end. So if we seem grouchy about getting a reply remember that we aren't the only one's that waste time chasing stuff when no one let's us know what they have tested.
OK back to your problem. There are no magic buttons to push. If you have tried other speakers and drivers then it is likely something on the MB that is causing the problem. It could be a power line somewhere close to a chip or connection, it could be a bad ground. If you have a Sound card handy you could also check it to see if the problem goes away. Otherwise you may have to RMA it.

PSU for K8T Neo-FIS2R

What model of PSU has its cooling fans which can be controlled from PWFAN1 and PWFAN2 on the K8T Neo-FIS2R motherboard?
Kaz

Sorry but there is no real specific one out there that I have ever seen. Most of the Bios options you see have been available since forever with Via Chipsetted boards. However DOT is specific to MSI which is Dynamic Overclocking technolodies. DOT can automatically overclock your voard depending one what your doing. I recommend staying away from it as it can cause as many issues as anything in your rig. And then there is Cool and Quiet which is an AMD 64 Bit CPU specific option to downclock the multipliers for the CPU during Idle Times to save energy and keep the CPU cool. Again it is not really needed.
The rest of the stuff you can use google to find individually or by searching for Award Bios's or Via Chipset Bios settings.
These are way to much for any one person to post a complete guide to here as all the info is readily available elsewhere.

Should I flash the bios? K8T NEO FIS2R

Ok... I have a K8T NEO FIS2R mobo. A couple of friends of mine have been telling me to flash the bios to the most current version... Then some other people have been telling me that it is too risky and I should hold off untill something goes wrong that I know a bios flash can fix...
I'm just wondering what is the concencious here... should I flash it, or should I stay with the current version I have now(the one that came with the mobo) I Like to have my computer as up to date as possible, but all the reports of bad flashes have me a little worried. This is a procedure that I have never done before, and I dont want to mess it up.
If I should flash, Any insight, tips, tricks, special instructions, etc... would be greatly appriciated.
Thanks!
Magnum

Thanks guys for the quick responces... I'm used to not getting a responce from forums for 12-24hrs and here it is less than 24hrs later and I have 10 responces.
I'm not at my computer in question right now, but I am almost positive that my bios is ver1.0. Same one that came with my mobo.
At this point I am leaning towards flashing... If basically the only way to mess it up is to have my power fail, then I dont think I will have a problem. I'll just borrow an UPS from work here to be on the safe side.
hypothetically if i follow the instructions to a tee(windows flash/live update) are there any other ways it can mess it up? I just want to get a hold on all the places where I could mess it up.
Will live update take me all the way through the procedure, or do I need a separate set of instructions to read off of during the flash?
Also what gear will I need... floppy disk? anything else?
Sorry about all the questions, just want to make sure I do this right the first time!
Thanks!
Magnum

6600GT not working with K8T neo-FIS2R

I recently returned a K8T NEO-FIS2R MB for repair. The problem was that the PS/2 and USB ports were broken. However the MB has been returned and the PS/2 and USB ports work fine. I posted about this several months ago.
Now the AGP port seems to be broken (not the actual slot). I have tried a 6800 Ultra and a 6600 GT (AGP version) GFX card in this slot. Both cards fail at the driver installation point. I have tried driver versions 66.93, 67.02 and 67.03. I also tried 3 versions of the via drivers 451, 453 and 455. Even tried XP with SP1 and SP2. The PC will sometimes BSOD, reset, won't boot into windows. The drivers sometimes install then other times they won't, etc. The problems only seem to be with the drivers for the GFX cards.
The 6600 GT works as I have tried it in another MB without any problems.
I know the memory works fine as I used memtest86+ for a couple of hours on the default settings without any errors and it works in another PC.
The spec of the PC is:
XP pro
K8T NEO-FIS2R MB
512MB corsair XMS at 2.5-3-7-3
XFX 6600GT
40gig HDD
FDD
Plextor CD writer
DVD Rom
PSU is a Q-tec 550W
I know Q-tec PSUs are not up to much from what I have read elsewhere in this forum, but I have had it running in a similar system with the 6800 Ultra installed without any trouble (even with the above MB before it went faulty). I have also tried a 400W PSU, that came with the case. The Voltages on the 12V line are between 12.00 and 12.03 when using the Q-tec PSU.
Has any body else had these problems with the 6600GT in the mentioned MB.
Also, how can I check the serial number on the MB with the label on the box, as this MB that was returned to me looks to “clean” to be the one I sent away for repair.
Thanks for any help

Hey, I'm glad to see a post on the new Gforce 6600GT AGP card. I just recently put together a brand new system (see my sig for specs). System runs great. The only thing I wanted to do was replace the video card, and after a great deal of anxiety I decided the Geforce 6600GT AGP was the best bang for the buck.
Well I got home, installed the card and never get passed the bios screen. (shows your processor, memory, memory siz), the screen u hit DEL to go into the bios.
The system doens't lock up, NUM LOCK can still be turned on and off, and CAPS can be turned of and on... but thats it. Just sits on that screen. I can't go into the bios either.
what settings do I need to do prior to isntalling this card to get it to work.
Let me know if you all need anymore details to help me out.
oh, I did reset my frequency to 10x200 (which is what I think the 3000+ is supposed to be at).

K8T Neo-FIS2R - 3200+ - Mushkin Level 1 RAM: Optimal Memory Settings

Just got a K8T Neo-FIS2R with a AMD Athlon 64 3200+ with 1g (512MB X
2) Mushkin Level 1 PC3500 RAM as recommended by Anandtech on his High
End System roundup:
www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2041
I am having a HUGE problems with memory settings in the BIOS.
On AUTO, the memory is only autodected at DDR200, which I found odd.
I them took memory setting in my old hands and things don't seem much
better:
I made these changes:
MEMCLOCK: DDR400
BANK INTERVEAVING: AUTO
BURST LENGTH: 8 BEAT
CL: 2
TRCD: 3
TRAS: 5
TRP: 2
This was unstable at first and bumped the DDR Voltage to 2.7, moved
the sticks to DIMM1 and DIMM3 (instead of DIMM2), and it seems stable,
but not very fast. according to Sandra Scores
Any recommendations for Memory Settings? Why would the MB not
autodecte DDR400 RAM? I am not looking to overlock...just maximize
the CPU and memory I have.
Maybe I just need to get new memory. What is the best memory for this motherboard?
Thanks,
Steve

I'm running the same mem (see my sig). Since its PC3500 I attempted to tighten the settings to those you had listed (2,3,2,5). It was not Prime95 torture test stable at even the stock 200 MHz FSB using these settings. Upping the voltage to 2.7 did not increase the stability in my system at these settings. The memory ran perfectly at AUTO settings, but was clocked at 2.5,3,3,8 I believe.
Keep in mind that level 1 is advertised at 2,3,3. My system is 100% stable at 2.7V for me up to 210 MHz FSB at these settings (I haven't tried any faster). My TRAS is set to 6.
Hope this helps a fellow Mushkin user

K8T Neo-FIS2R latest mobo revision

Hi
I am wondering does anybody know wich is latest mobo revision for K8T Neo-FIS2R.
Mine mobo revision is 1.0

wow after standing on my head i found it mine says 02
i am thinking this isnt too helpful as for all i know that is the month it was built..or the inspector number,...
but it was fun trying to find it..a red sticker on a red board
i should have figured it would be near the revision number.

K8t neo fis2r - core center not functional after installing sound card

Hi. I had been using Core Center with Dynamic Overclocking enabled and all was well. When idle, my amd64 3000+ (2.0ghz), was running at 800mhz. Under load it would go up to 2100mhz. But yesterday, I installed an Auzentech x-plosion sound card and after i installed the driver, the dynamic overclocking stopped working, my cpu is running at max all the time. (The variable fan speed function still works).
I checked the IRQ and there is no conflict, I uninstalled the amd64 driver and core center and reinstalled. Still does not work. I uninstalled the auzentech driver, rebooted, and cancelled new hardware wizard. Then the variable cpu frequency feature worked. Once I install the driver for the auzentech, dynamic oc stops working. I was thinking to try another pci slot but it appears to be a software issue rather than a hardware issue. The new version of Core Center does not work with my board even though msi says it's compatible so I'm still using the one that always worked. The amd driver is the latest and also always worked.
Has anyone else had a similar problem, perhaps using the auzentech sound card with this board and Core Center? Or does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
K8T Neo FIS2R
AMD64 3200
AMI bios version 2.2
1.5Gb pc3200 memory
nvidia quadro FX 1100 128mb AGP
Antec 430W ps

Hey guys, I just went to AMDs site to get the dashboard utility mentioned and in the readme, it stated that in XP, the power option needs to be set to portable/laptop. But in the past, I read that it needed to be set to "always on" and that it is, in fact, what I had it set to before when cool n quiet was working. Now I change it to "portable/laptop" and it works and set to "always on" doesn't work anymore. So now Core Center reports I'm at 33c @800mhz at no load. I don't get it??? I'll have to try an alternate utility just to verify that is indeed working.
btw, QV, I checked system properties, (right-click my computer > properties, or "system" in control panel) and on the "general" tab, it indicates an AMD64 3000+, 2.0GHz. But I'm pretty certain the clock frequency is dropping now as reported by core center because of the decrease in the cpu temp at idle. Am I looking in the right place in XP? I have XP pro, SP2
Again, thanks for the input and Happy New Year

Msi k8t neo fis2r problems part 3

sometimes when the computer is turned on it just turns the fans and leds on but doesnt boot up...
most of the time it loads up and i boot to the windows xp cd and i install the drivers for sata and then when it reaches the point of copying the files it will give me a bsod and say that there is a problem with the irql driver and then force me to shut the pc down..
sometimes it makes it past that and will begin to copy files onto the hard drive, like somehow the data is becoming corrupted..however it will start to say that the files cant copy randomly and it will allow me to retry..they will copy the 2nd time usually..i can keep hitting retry and it will usually go by..it gets to 30 something % and then crashes to bsod just giving me some random error..for some reason the files keep screwing up that go on the sata drive....I just replaced the old power supply that wasnt working with an antec true watt 430 watt power supply, so i know it isnt that..
i just cant figure out what the heck is going on..any help would be appreciated.my specs are
"IRQ NOT EQUAL OR LESS"
athlon 64 3000+ cpu
msi k8t neo fis2r motherboard
mushkin special cas 2.0 2-2-2-5 512 mb pc 3200
western digital 8mb cache 80 gb sata hard drive
sapphire radeon 9800 pro 128 mb 8x agp

fyi look an your cd sticker ity will show power, consumption, but they are way lower than you would think, hard drives,can be only 10 watts, less then some case lights , and fans, cd are similar.. your video, is the biggy somewhere between 90~150 watts..yikes .next to the cpu..and the mobo can use 50 or so (not sure about new mobos) not to mention the ram 1024 is @40 watts or so., dont forget about 25watts per pci card, not counting the sound card which can be double....
ergo the need for a big psu..
the combined total ratting on a psu is not the max number that the psu is rated, that is surge value.. so a 500 may only hold 400 sustained , and that will drop as the machine heats up, so in the end your 500 may onlyy pull 366 @50'c...

MSI K8T NEO FIS2R No VGA help plz!

Hi, ive just purchased a new athlon 3000 64 cpu retail and an msi k8t neo fis2r motherboard, the specs and problem are below but plz bare in mind i am a system builder for the last 3 years i have tried alot of things to solve this.
MSI K8T NEO FIS2R MOBO
AMD 3000 64 RETAIL CPU
AMD RETAIL HSF
1024MB DDR333 SAMSUNG RAM
120 GIG WD HD
GALAXY GLACIER GEFORCE 6800 GT 256MB
PIONEER 106 DVD WRITER
400 WATT PSU (TSUNAMI I THINK)
Anyway the problem is this when i put the system together and turned it on i dont get any vga the monitor just says NO SIGNAL and when i look at the graphics card the fan on it isnt spinning.
Yet i have my old setup which is as follows,
ASUS A7N8X DELUXE MOBO
AMD 3200XP BARTON
AMD HSF
1024MB DDR333 AMSUNG
120 GIG WD HD
GALAXY GLACIER GEFORCE 6800 GT 256MB
PIONEER 106 DVD WRITER
400 WATT PSU
Basically the same as above i just changed the cou and mobo now when the graphics card is in that system it works fine no problems as soon as i try it in the new a64 system it doesnt work the fan doesnt spin and nothing comes on screen, ive tried everything i know ive double and trebble checked connections and ive tried removing components and then trying it, no matter what the graphics wont work.
I figured the motherbaord must be faulty and am going to contact the place i got it from but it would be good if anyone here knows how to solve it if it isnt the motherboards fault.
thanks very much.
ic3man1999.

Thanks guys, huess what like an idiot i forgot to put the 4 pin 12v in :( doh
Anyway it works fine now, but i have high temps core centre says 56 degrees right now while im typing this ? is this accurate or am i in trouble ?
Oh yeah and everytime i load windows it says new hardware found ide channel then secondary ide channel then it says a problem occured during your new hardware installation and it calls the hardware HDC it says this twice aswell.
ANy help guys ?
thanks

Calling all old MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R users

Ops i posted this in the wrong forum first time, this is the right place
This for all MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R users, that have changed to the new MSI K8N Platinum nForce3 250 mobo, if I have the chance to swap to the new board should I do so, or does this mobo have its fair share of problems?
Is the MSI K8N Platinum nForce3 250, a better board compared to the old MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R? Not taking into account overclocking.
Like is the onboard sound the same or worse or better in your opinion? Is it any faster at stock? Are there any other advantages?
Thx Xe

I had a K8T Neo Fis2r at first. I got a K8N Neo because I believed my Blue Screens were a faulty K8T Neo. As it turned out, the Audigy2 I had in there was the problem, because I still got Blue Screens with the K8N Neo, and when I took out the audigy and used onboard my system ran stable.
I havent had any of the apparent keyboard controller problems, or ANY other problems with the K8N. My only instabilities have been the Audigy2's fault.
Havent tried overclocking on the K8N Neo yet, maybe a little down the road. As far as features go, the K8N has the hardware firewall on it (which I dont use) but apparently its "true" gigabit ethernet is better than the K8Ts. Dont ask me to clarify that, lol
btw Got my turtle beach Santa Cruz today and put it in my K8N Neo, crossing my fingers... =\

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