K8T Neo-FIS2R - won't post.

Hello friends,
specs:
K8T Neo-FIS2R
Athlon64 3200 (retail with fan)
two 512mb stick Corsair
1 36 gig SATA Raptor WD hdd
1 80 gig SATA WD hdd
Antec 430 w "TruePower" PSU
ATI 9600 pro
Sony optical drives.
Mitsumi 3.5"
buncha Antec fans.
So I got my new baby all put together and took a deep breath and started it up.
All the fans came on, hdds making hdd type noises, CPU fan a-spinning.
Nothing happens. Doesn't post. No video at all. The MSI usb/diagnostics dongle has all 4 LEDs shining, and supposedly that means the CPU is damged or not seated right.
Poop.
So I take it down, pull of the heatsink and look at the CPU. Looks good. Just to be sure I take it out, look for dust or damage or any abnormalities. Nothing. No physical defects on the CPU pins or the socket. Alright. I carefully put the CPU back, put the heatsink back on (Am I the only one who loves how the heatsink attaches? Bravo AMD!) and.....the same thing happens. I sigh loudly and commence with the near hysterical swearing. Girlfriend announces she HATES it when I build a new PC.
Tried all sorts of other premutations, one stick of ram, unplugging all periphs in different combos, pressing the power button while petting a monkey and eating fire. You name it, I've done it. Does anyone else abuse couch pillows?
You gotta let it out man.
I've probably inserted a few hundred CPUs into ZIF sockets over the years, so I'm 100% certain I didn't muss it up.
So before I RMA these little sweethearts (both the mb and cpu, because how can one tell if it's the socket or cpu?) has anyone else been down this road and want to give me the magic cure? Or maybe just a hug?
Much Thanks to you. Have a good weekend.

Hello Friends,
The Hynix dimms in several arrangements, no go.
I also, uh, borrowed some infineon from work. Tried in several configs, no go.
Samsung no go.
Enter: Despair.
As I sat and stared at the machine in sort of a "I just spent a lot of money and what do I have?" sort of way, mine eyes did fall upon the gleaming brand new Antec "TruePower" psu.
Mind you, I had a perfectly acceptable 450 watt. No problems at all with it. It was generic and cost 30 dollars. But in the quest for stability, nay, in the quest for the very computer bliss we all aspire to, I laid out my coinage for the Antec fancy schmancy model. I thought, "Time to go with a real name, a real psu." .
And here's where the story ends. I swapped out the psu, thinking at this point I was sort grasping at straws, and wham bam thank you ma'am, here I am sitting by my gleaming tiny god, my humming MSI K8T, all is forgiven.
Thanks for the help all. The corsairs all seem to to do their job. Antec apparently does not test their rather expensive "TruePower" psu.
Ironically, the brand of the no namish psu appears to be "Works", emblazoned proudly on it's side.
So if you think ram is ruining your life, stick a piece of crap psu in that rig and see.
There's only one thing left to say.
w00t!

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New K8T Neo FIS2R won't post

I have looked at all the other threads in this forum, but can't find the solution.
Specs:
New K8T Neo FIS2R
New A64 3000+
New Mushkin 3500 Level One (Cas 2) 2x512MB
New Antec 550 (24A on the 12V)
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
When I give it power, all the fans come on, the 4 LEDs on the bracket stay lit up, and then don't change, but I get no video or any other indications (such as beeps). The 4-Pin power connector, is securely connected in the proper location. The standard ATX connector is also secure. I'd link to a picture to prove it, but my camera is charging right now.
Currently I have only power wires, power switch, system speaker, video card, and 1 stick of RAM in the first slot. I have tried it without the video card, without RAM, with RAM in different slots, just about any combination I can think of. I have even cleared the CMOS a few times. Nothing changes, I always get stuck with the 4 LEDs. I don't have anything connected to the USB headers either (that was mentioned in another post).
I know some people have mentioned that the Antec 550's 24A on the 12V isn't great, but it should be more than enough amps, the way my system is setup right now.

Hi
It does not sound like a major prob, it sounds like a PSU or memory problem, anyway of checking MOBO with another PSU with at least 20A on the 12v. Also check the memory sticky at top of the posts and see if your OK memory wise, another possibility is that one of the mounting screws is tracking from the board - try removing screws and see if it boots, also check none of the cables are touching the case or MOBO.
MOBO and CPU seem fairly resilent, so faulty parts are not to likely, although one never knows. Another thought the Jbat1 Cmos jumper is on pins 1 & 2, 1 is marked on board, and you could try clearing CMOS. a corrupted bios could also cause this.
Best of luck, lets know how you go
Jocko
PS. looking at the stickys at top, Bas has put one there about a compitition by MSI, one of the questions is about Radeons needing extra power( has an April 1st entry date!!), it is worth checking, does your Radeon have its own supply, you could always remove it and see if it boots.
Cheers

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Switching graphics card doesn't help. I powered it on without a graphics card plugged in. Then it made 8 beeps, and then silence. The cycle was not repeated, as it was when the card was in.
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This is the hardware in my system at the moment. I have removed plenty of stuff to rule out other components but even with just this it won't work. No mouse, keyboard or other drives attached, just this.
CPU: Athlon64 3200+
Memory: Corsair TWINX1024-3200XLPRO DDR
Power: Thermaltake Purepower Butterfly 480W W0020
Output: +5V (35A), +3.3V (28A), +12V (17A), -5V (0.3A), -12V (0.8A)
Graphics: Gainward GeForce 6800Ultra 256MB GDDR3 AGP8X, "Ultra/2600 Golden S",
Motherboard: K8T Neo-FIS2R/FSR (MS-6702)
Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda IV ATA 7200 RPM
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 957p
Any ideas, suggestions or questions? I am stumped.

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I have removed plenty of stuff to rule out other components but even with just this it won't work.
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Graphics: Gainward GeForce 6800Ultra 256MB GDDR3 AGP8X, "Ultra/2600 Golden S",
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+12V (17A),
If your graphics card is like mine (see sig) with two power connections at the back you may have stressed the PSU over the last year to it's final end. Borrow or buy another PSU with at least 24 amp on the 12v supply. Your current PSU with only 17 12v amps was bound to fail. Especially since you state you had other hardware at one time. CPU Graphics card, case fanes and drives are all calling on the 12v rail to power them and your PSU just might not have it any more to do the job and the highest draw is at startup.
Try another PSU.

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Originally posted by saat0014
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I'll try this today. In all my years of building computers, I've never had as many problems as I have with this system. This is so frustrating.

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D-leds indicates Video/Video Memory/Memory problem.
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other was running fine for 12months until I decided to add a network card.
I consider it highly unlikely that I've blown the PSU on two cases - alas they're both the same model as I liked it so much I bought another.
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if anyone has any clue as to how i can get this thing to post to get back in the bios plz reply..im at wits end
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msi k8t neo fis2r bios 1.4

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I recently updated my bios for the motherboard, and now I can't get the pc to post. Before I had the pc going but it kept getting gpfs and crashing to the desktop from games..
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I am only using one ram chip...
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antec 430 watt 12v - 20a
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I hope some of you might be able to help me. I just finished building a new system using the K8T Neo FIS2R motherboard. I actually had everything working with XP installed, but this morning, I have not booted once. It's not clearing POST anymore.
I get a long beep followed by 8 short beeps. According to the BIOS beep codes I've seen in other posts, that has something to do with the BIOS checksum error. I did upgrade the BIOS to 1.7 from an MSI Live Update download.
I'm basically stuck, is the mobo dead?
K8T Neo FIS2R
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2 512MB Kingston Memory Modules
MSI ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB
Power Supply :
+3.3 / 32A, +5 / 40A, +12 / 24A, -12 / 1.0A,-5 / .5A, +5SB / 2A
If you need more info, just reply.
Thanks,
-Erik

kawasakiguy37 and others
This does not bode well for my current situation, or yours. I have to believe that there are many people out there that have a successful 1.7 BIOS running.
But I'm beginning to lead in this direction now, especially since your description is close to mine. I was able to run in v1.7 for a short time, then it just died.
Also, I don't know if this helps, but after my beep codes, I assume the POST continues, because about 15 seconds later there is 2 short beep following by 1 long beep and the D-bracket is has green all around minus number 4 which is read. Assume blue=green here :
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Also, by the way, these forums are awesome... The data here has been great. It's nice to see such a great forum that has valuable information.
Thanks to everyone for the help so far.
-Erik

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Has any body else had these problems with the 6600GT in the mentioned MB.
Also, how can I check the serial number on the MB with the label on the box, as this MB that was returned to me looks to “clean” to be the one I sent away for repair.
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Hey, I'm glad to see a post on the new Gforce 6600GT AGP card. I just recently put together a brand new system (see my sig for specs). System runs great. The only thing I wanted to do was replace the video card, and after a great deal of anxiety I decided the Geforce 6600GT AGP was the best bang for the buck.
Well I got home, installed the card and never get passed the bios screen. (shows your processor, memory, memory siz), the screen u hit DEL to go into the bios.
The system doens't lock up, NUM LOCK can still be turned on and off, and CAPS can be turned of and on... but thats it. Just sits on that screen. I can't go into the bios either.
what settings do I need to do prior to isntalling this card to get it to work.
Let me know if you all need anymore details to help me out.
oh, I did reset my frequency to 10x200 (which is what I think the 3000+ is supposed to be at).

Msi k8t neo fis2r help

hello. in need of a little hand here.
board won't post.
i've just thrown together my new system with monitor and power cable plugged in:
64 3200+
k8t neo fis2r
crosair ev ddr400
his radeon 9800 pro ice-q
tagen 480w psu
when turned on the fans all start and the power led flashes on and off slowly. screen never displays.
mobo never came with d-bracket so i can't diag the problem myself, scared it's a cpu prob.
cheers
NIB

so far all i've only wanged in the items listed (512 of the ram) and i have connected the additional 4-pin, although thanks for the mention - it's always the stupid that i end up overlooking. I've noticed that when the psu is plugged into some older p3 & p4 systems their bios' don't post. think there's a problem with the psu, although it claims to be 24a at 12v.
Cheers
NIB

PSU for K8T Neo-FIS2R

What model of PSU has its cooling fans which can be controlled from PWFAN1 and PWFAN2 on the K8T Neo-FIS2R motherboard?
Kaz

Sorry but there is no real specific one out there that I have ever seen. Most of the Bios options you see have been available since forever with Via Chipsetted boards. However DOT is specific to MSI which is Dynamic Overclocking technolodies. DOT can automatically overclock your voard depending one what your doing. I recommend staying away from it as it can cause as many issues as anything in your rig. And then there is Cool and Quiet which is an AMD 64 Bit CPU specific option to downclock the multipliers for the CPU during Idle Times to save energy and keep the CPU cool. Again it is not really needed.
The rest of the stuff you can use google to find individually or by searching for Award Bios's or Via Chipset Bios settings.
These are way to much for any one person to post a complete guide to here as all the info is readily available elsewhere.

Calling all old MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R users

Ops i posted this in the wrong forum first time, this is the right place
This for all MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R users, that have changed to the new MSI K8N Platinum nForce3 250 mobo, if I have the chance to swap to the new board should I do so, or does this mobo have its fair share of problems?
Is the MSI K8N Platinum nForce3 250, a better board compared to the old MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R? Not taking into account overclocking.
Like is the onboard sound the same or worse or better in your opinion? Is it any faster at stock? Are there any other advantages?
Thx Xe

I had a K8T Neo Fis2r at first. I got a K8N Neo because I believed my Blue Screens were a faulty K8T Neo. As it turned out, the Audigy2 I had in there was the problem, because I still got Blue Screens with the K8N Neo, and when I took out the audigy and used onboard my system ran stable.
I havent had any of the apparent keyboard controller problems, or ANY other problems with the K8N. My only instabilities have been the Audigy2's fault.
Havent tried overclocking on the K8N Neo yet, maybe a little down the road. As far as features go, the K8N has the hardware firewall on it (which I dont use) but apparently its "true" gigabit ethernet is better than the K8Ts. Dont ask me to clarify that, lol
btw Got my turtle beach Santa Cruz today and put it in my K8N Neo, crossing my fingers... =\

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