K8T-NEO FISR2 -- RAM Help / Reccomendations please

Hi all,
I have a couple of unbranded 512M sticks of RAM at the moment in my machine, but I have some money burning a hole in my pocket, and so I was thinking of buying some performance RAM.
Firstly, how do I inspect my current RAM timings? in the BIOS it all says AUTO!?
Secondly, what would you reccomend for my new RAM?
Thanks
Rolfey

Thanks for your replys,
I won a couple of quid playing online poker, and that was why I fancied treating myself to a RAM upgrade. I wasnt sure what was best to get, so I posted here. I looked at lotta of the stuff available and noticed that the matched pairs of RAM had lower timings across the board, but it seemed it was designed for use on dual channel systems, and of course, mine isn't.
So, I made a compromise and went for some GEIL RAM that was on offer, I am hoping to sell my old RAM for about £50~£60, the GEIL stuff has cost me £80. I am currently running RAM with 3-3-3-8 timing set by SPD. The GEIL stuff I have bought suggests it runs at 2.5-3-3-6 at 400MHz, but once again, its a matched pair. I'll do a little benchmarking and see how it works out.
At the very least I can see if what differnece it makes if any, and give myself half a chance of an informed decision on my next RAM purchase if I am lucky at the poker tables again!!
Thanks, Rolfey out...

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Ram choice for K8T Neo FISR2 Motherboard

Can anyone tell me if this particular model of ram is compatible with the k8t neo fisr2 motherboard?
http://www.crucial.com/store/MPartspecs.Asp?mtbpoid=AC1B73A7A5CA7304&WSMD=MS%2D6702+%28K8T+Neo%2DFIS2R%29&WSPN=CT6464Z40B
according to crucial it is compatible with the mobo, but i don't see it on the msi vendor approved list for the mobo. I did purchase it, however for the new computer that i am building, comp powers up fine, but no signal is getting to my monitor. Do you think if the ram is not compatible and is not working, then the new machine won't boot properly, hence no signal to monitor?
i'm trying to rule out/in the memory ram as the culprit for my new comp's problems

Well first you have not posted your specs so it's a bit hard to determine if the problem could be somewhere else. Please add yoiur specs to your signature.
Second I am assuming that you don't have any other RAM you can try so here are a couple things to check;
Put in a single stick of RAM and see if it comes up, if not then try another stick.
Check and see what is happening on the D-Bracket LED's.
Double check to see that both the 4 and 20 pin power connections are plugged into the Motherboard and see if your video card requires power through a molex connector. If so make sure it has a power Supply line plugged in.
Reset the Bios with the onboard jumper. Caution, make sure you remove power before you do that step. You may also have to remove the RAM when you reset.

AMD64 3200 + MSI K8T Neo FISR2 memory problem

I've had one KVR400X64C25/512 and it have worked like a charm. Now I've bought another one (total 1gb).
When I've inserted it and start the computer I only get the CoreCell logo scren, it do not boot correctly.
AMIBIOS is version 3.21a
I've tried the following:
* run only the new memory [works]
* run only the old memory [works]
* DIMM1 + DIMM3 [only CoreCell screen]
* DIMM1 + DIMM2 [only CoreCell screen]
* DIMM2 + DIMM3 [only a black screen]
what should I do?

Quote from: Tiresmoke on 22-August-05, 21:48:12
A PSU is rated to run at +/-5% and that is well within it's rating. As for wether ists big enough there is no way we can say as you still did not give full system specs.
If it won't run with the third stick of RAM then pull it out for the moment and see if the system will boot again. If it does then during post you will see a Bios version listed. That board only supports Bios versions to 2.2 at the moment so please also list what actuall Bios version you have.
Ok, have booted with one instead of two sticks (one works, two don't, do not have three sticks)..
AMIBIOS A6702VMS v2.2 released 030405. The autodetect settings (at startup): Clock = 400Mhz, CAS 2.5 which seems correct.
More info:
AMD64 3200
MSI K8T Neo FISR2
AMIBIOS A6702VMS v2.2
Seagate 120GB SATA (no ides)
CD rw + DVD-r combo drive
floppy drive
Saphire GF6800 (no GT or Ultra)
Creative Audigy 2 Platinum Ex
that's whats running in it

K8T Neo FISR2, possible issues

Hi all, I'm a new K8T Neo FISR2 user, currently board is enroute along with a 3400+ DTR cpu via Newegg, but I also frequent another forum where a gentleman here has some issues that I find curious, can anyone shed any light or insight here? Thanks to all...

Hi
That guy, if he had read a few of the posts here, would know an audigy 1 don't work, an audigy 2 is fine.
His other points show more about his lack of ability than the gear he is using. his disk isn't dead. He is dealing with a technolgy he knows little about, his loss.
This is a superb board and CPU, it is new so there, as always, will be teething probs. Very few considering the huge step forward this is.
I am sure that if you have any probs, they will be sorted here in no time, as the knowledge base here is getting quite advanced.
Enjoy your new machine, just follow the advice in these threads on Memory and PSUs - the 2 main prob areas
Cheers
jocko
PS Read this
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=46719&sid=

MSI K8T NEO-FIS2R: RAM problems

I have the motherboard K8T NEO-FIS2R with AMIBIOS 2VMS V2.0 010505.
I tried these DDR-RAM:
DDR-RAM 512MB PC400 CL3 Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512
DDR-RAM 512MB PC400 CL3 Samsung
but the motherboard recognizes only 256 MB for both. The RAM are good: I tried them in an other pc!
Now I have installed an A-DATA ram 256 MB and the motherboard recognizes 256 MB!
Do you think that my motherboard is defective?
Thank you in advance.
P.S. I'm sorry for my bad english.

No the memory controller is onboard the CPU so in any case the MB is not defective. However the CPU revision may hold you back on some RAM especially if you mix make and model RAM on the same channel. A socket 754 CPU only has one channel so all RAM must be matched to work properly.
If those Sticks can only be seen as a wrong value when used by themselves it is likely that either they have errors or the timings in Bios are improperly set to azllow them to work. In this case you can normally find out what is going on by running memtest86. If you get errors on test 5 or 7 then you have timgs timed improperly and any other errors would show bad RAM.
Another case is not having enough power for everything to work properly together. Usually this happens when you don't have enough 12v amps for these newer rigs.
Post complete specs and test results and maybe we can help you further.

[Athlon64] K8T Neo-FIS2R RAM Question

Hi All
At the moment I have 512mb of Corsair 3200 RAM (2x 256) in a MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R, and I was wondering if it would be ok to put another 1gig of non Corsair in with out it going nuts at me.
Thanks for any help.

Many thanks for the help.

K8T Neo FISR2 and Initial BIOS settings

I’ve have a YANQ… (Yet Another Newbie Question)
Are there any recommendations for initial BIOS settings for a new build? I checked southmike’s “My Unofficial K8t Neo Guide” and searched posts. I realize that many settings are based on Memory Configuration, OCing, personal preferences, etc. But what I’m wondering if there is a basic configuration that has shown to be a good starting point for first time bring up?
I have not received my board yet, so if this is covered in the manual, sorry for wasting the space
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

Hi
Apart from the Boot Sequence and the SATA / IDE settings you want, the best thing is run at safe defaults, and everything on auto, the mobo is good at selecting the best settings for good performance. And will probably perform better than if you try to tamper.
There is a lot of things to help you DOT, Core Center, etc.
cheers
jocko

Audio Connections and K8T NEO FISR2

The audio connection on my Wavemaster case has the following connections:
R-OUT
MIC IN
GND
L-OUT
They are all 4 single pin connectors.
The NEO FISR2 has:
AUD-MIC
AUD-GND
AUD-MIC BIAS
AUD-VCC
AUD-FPOUT-R
AUD-RET-R
HP-ON
KEY
AUD-FPOUT-L
AUD-RET-L
Any ideas as to what the proper connections should be? The only one I’m sure on is the ground. I’ve tried a few combinations with no luck. I’m beginning to wonder if I have a bad daughter card on the Wavemaster or something wrong with the board???

Thanks SAB and southmike,
I'll try that, though I think I'm having sound problems in general. I installed an Audigy2 ZS. I'm getting no sound at all. Here is what is really strange. When I disable the Audio 97 option in Bios, Cool and Quite gives me an error saying that a device file can not be found and that cool and quiet is incompatible with my notherboard. When Audio 97 is re-enabled the message goes away
Any ideas?

PT880 Neo Audio+RAM help needed

Hi,
Last night I built my first computer (specs in signature). I installed XP Pro and its running, but I have 2 problems:
a) Back audio ports dont work
b) RAM is running in single channel mode (i bought a dual channel kit)
Im a complete newb, and i have no idea what im doing wrong, if anyone knows, or might know what im doing wrong, please post
THANKS A TON!
Thanks again,
MSIKid

Hello. I have this board too and the sound does not work from the back panel. I have checked the jumpers - they are correctly placed. I have also checked the BIOS settings to make sure that the onboard audio is enabled.
I do have a Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Gamer installed in a PCI slot. Does this mean that the onboard audio will not work?
All I want to do is use the onboard microphone jack on the back panel with the SB Live for the sound output.
Anyone know why my audio does not work? Is it because of the PCI sound card installed? Can't I use both at the same time?
Thanks,
SkykingUSA
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Originally posted by Del UK
Hi,
sounds like is second user mainboard and jumpers have been set to front panel..........please check booklet and check jumpers are set to back panel.....
Del
PS
Do you have a sound card installed into PCI or USB?

K8t neo fis2r system help

hello.
i've been building a new system for a while, have had a doa psu to replace and now it's back the system won't post. the power comes on and everything whirrs into action but the (crt)monitor stays on standby. the mobo didn't come with a d-bracket from the supplier so i'm in the dark as to what's going on. When i forgot to replace the ram the system beeped 3 times but that's all the interaction it's giving me.
the system stats are the ones lysted below, only using 1 dimm for tests and have been trying a geforce2mx as well.
any ideas as to the fault of the system?
cheers

Hi
Thats the $64000 question.
If your sure - very sure- the PSU is OK, then next stop is ram, pity you don't have a D bracket, it should be supplied. It is a new Mobo?
All you can do is check each stick on its own in each dimm slot. But as the RAM retains info, the system needs ' discharged' before you can be sure. One easy way to 'reset' the Ram is to use another stick of differant properties, ie. DDR2100 or 2700. If none available, try removing RAM, remove power cable first, and be careful of static it can kill your ram in a sec. Earth yourself to case before touching it. Cmos jumper on pins 2 + 3, remove Vid card, all drives and fans. leave for 10 mins or more. Replace cmos jumper on pins 1 +2. use differant ram if you can. then replace HDD, Floppy, and Vid card. Cpu fan and 20 and 4 pin square connectors. Try to post, if it works, put keyboard and mouse in.
Cheers
jocko

MSI K8T Neo + OCZ PSU (help)

Hi there, having a few problems with my computer unfortunatly with it being christmas eve :@ anyway I just purchased an OCZ 520w PSU I go to install it, and it keeps crashing everytime windows boots or as soon as I start doing anything in windows. It does actually get onto the desktop can click the Start button etc.... I noticed my old PSU had another little connector that plugs in down the bottom of the motherboard which this one does not its a 3 pin connector. now if I plug my old PSU in without that connector it crashes so im not sure how to get it working I fool heartdly put the other spare floppy disc connector on it... which I shouldnt have lol after it went pop and I could smell burning would this of blown something? the connector on the mobo or on the PSU? as its working with my old psu. the most important thing is getting it working with my new psu, any help would be greatly appreciated!

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the most important thing is getting it working with my new psu, any help would be greatly appreciated!
Is this so important for you?
If I were you, I would care more about the Mobo, CPU, Memory and other devices and If I were you, I would throw this PSU out of the window asap.
Had one of the OCZ Powerstreams and it killed my Mobo, my Memory and my HD. Is this worth enough risking the same???
Glad enough it didn´t kill my FX 53 and my videocard. If you have to much money, give it to me. I would spend it for better things than waiting till yours will catch fire.

Msi k8t neo fsr bios help

ive been searching and searching and cant find where to change the multiplier.... i was hoping maybe you guys now where it is or a way to change it i have a athlon 64 3200+ but i want to lower the multi to 9, any ideas

Sorry, I did not read your MB ID correctly. According to MSI website, the K8T Nero series does not have the Cell menu. There may be some 3rd party software that will allow you to change your settings but I am not familiar with any.

K8T Neo Fisr2 (MS-6702 v1.0) BIOS update

Firstly I'd like to say hello to everybody since this is my first post on this forum:)
I was trying to install Vista ultimate x64 on my computer, but it did not find my hard drive (maxtor 80gb sata). I read in the internet that the person with the same problem updated his BIOS and the problem was solved. Now, when i checked my Bios version on Live update, it said that there is no newer version(i have 2.2). Then i checked on my motherboard's website (http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=565) and it says that there is a newer version (7.1). Should I update or no? If yes how should i do it?
Thanks

You need to download the zip from this page http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=37&CatID=3000&SubCatID=143 called vraid_driver_v550b.zip
Extract the zip to a temp folder and go to: VRAID_Driver_V550B\VRAIDDrv\drvdisk\x64\driver - copy the contents of that folder to a disk (preferably floppy).
Now start your vista setup and when it asks for a partition to install on, click "load driver" - select the disk

My Unofficial K8t Neo Guide

Disclaimer: You try any and all troubleshooting at YOUR OWN RISK!!
Here is my unofficial guide to the K8t Neo fisr2 If you Like It give it a thumbs up so it will stick out. I will warn you it is long and I will edit off and on.
to add as needed.
first I'll start off with components,
CASE..you will need an atx case with good cooling a few extra fans like a blowhole at the top can help cooling, also bundle cables and power leads
so that they don't interfere with airflow.
MOTHERBOARD,...This is based on the K8TNEO series, when you attach it to your case make sure that is is mounted to risers to keep it from contacting case, they are usually small brass pins, also make sure that all the mounting screw are secure and in place, this will prevent the PCB from flexing and cracking as you install components, there should be around 9 or so screws, that usually go into the riser pins or raised case mounting points,don't forget to use those fiber or plastic insulated washers. These should be the only case contact point to the mobo other then the back plate with all the usb, net jacks etc..
Also use all of the mount points you can..if not you can crack mobo putting in cards etc...
CPU...Athlon64 processor2800+, 3000+, 3200+, or a 3400+, all 754 pin chips...k8neo CAN NOT USE FX chips or Opterons. 3200,&3000 are basically the same chip, same clockspeed of 2.0 ghz but the l2 cache is different 3200 1mb...3000 512k, you may not notice the difference in many applications but will see 2~10% diff in benchmark testing, the 3000 is usually about $75 cheaper
the 2800 is a newer model an a good way to get into 64bit without high cost.
PSU.... one of the most overlooked and most important component,
that old 300 watter you have from your old duron 800 don't even try.PSU's have caused a lot of trouble with a64 systems, they use a lot of power Get a good name brand psu if you can, and make sure it is at least 400 watts and has at the minimum of 20a on 12v, also look at combined total wattage
the psu must have a 20 pin connector and a 4 Pin( Square) Connector, and there is Only 1, Called the+12V 4 Pin Processor Connector.
some of the recommended brands are enermax,and antec.
Here is the reason most problems are the psu
amd64 uses 12v power, Intel chips used a lot of 5v power.
so until now most big psu's pushed 5 v not 12v
almost everything in your computer uses 12v except ram (3.3V)
AMD 64 and motherboard =12a @12V
so your already at 12A with no fan,s no hd, no CD,no DVD ,no mobo chip-set , no mem, no sound..etc
so what happens is your mem gets starved for power and then gives out errors,in your data, which = corrupt sata,or it fails to post. .
MEMMORY...Another big trouble spot,not just with the MSI board but with Via chip-set, and or the A64 memory controller.
DDR non ecc- single channel 400 is baseline although slower chips also work, The CPU's memory unit only supports 4 banks total so in order to use three sockets at least two of the memory sticks have to be 1 bank,.one bank or two bank chips look similar so check specs, dual bank chips usually have chips on the back as well. mem should match type and speed. if you run into problems try going into bios and limiting ram to 333.mem should match type and speed.
(edited out till i find more info [STRIKEOUT] if using two mem sticks it is best to use slots 1 and 3,[/STRIKEOUT])
edit :ok tiresmoke just replied so have a look. "One thing that often does not get addressed. I had a couple Blue Screens early on. Here is how I fixed it. I run my RAM in sockets 1 and 3. 1 and 2 gave a little instability.Yes I decided to keep mine in slot 1/3 but I did test in 1/2 since I changed Bios. Typically slot 1/3 can slow you down but it did not with mine so best to say that difference RAM will give different symptoms. Try combinations to find what works best for you."
LOL Keep in mind that Jocko uses 3 sticks of dual bank RAM and according to AMD they only support 4 banks total. Jocko has 6 so you do the math.
you can check msi's website for compatible ram, but be careful it can be confusing,
they list by part numbers,
but some known configurations that work are:
I would stay away from corsair xms mem right now many people have problems.
corsair and kingston owners may want to look here
AMD 3000+ systems...
BIOS 1.2
2 x 512 - Corsair CMX DDR400 @2-3-2-5
2 x 512 - Corsair Twin Pro DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
2 x 512 - Corsair Value Select DDR400 @ defaults
1 x 512 - Geil Golden Dragon DDR400 @ 2-3-3-6 (2.7V)
2 x 512 - Hynix DDR400 @ 2-3-3-6
2 x 512 - Kingmax DDR433 @ 2.5-3-3-6
2 x 512 - Kingston DDR400 @ 3-3-3-8
1 x 512 - Kingston HyperX DDR400 @ (defaults?)
1 x 512 - Kingston ValueRam (KVR400X64C3A) DDR400? @ (Defaults?)
2 x 512 - Muskin Level 1 DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
2 x 512 - Muskin Level 2 DDR433 @ (defaults?)
2 x 256 + 1 x 512 - Muskin Basic DDR400 @ 2.5-3-3-8
1 x 1024 - OCZ EL DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
BIOS 1.3b2
2 x 512 OCZ EL DDR433 @ 2-3-3-7
AMD 3200+ systems...
BIOS 1.1
2 x 512 - Mushkin Level 1 Black DDR433 @ 2.5-3-3-6
BIOS 1.2
2 x 512 - Apacer DDR400 @ 3-4-4-8 (2.5v)
2 x 512 - Corsair Twin X DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
1 x 1024 - Corsair TwinX DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
2 x 512 - Crucial DDR400 @ defaults
2 x 512 - Elixer OEM DDR400 @ defaults
1 x 1024 - GeIL GoldenDragon DDR400? @ defaults
2 x 512 - Geil Value Series 512MB DDR 2.5-3-3-6
2 x 512 - Hynix DDR400 @ 2-3-3-6
2 x 512 - Kingston HyperX KX DDR433 @ 2-3-3-8
2 x 512 - Kingston HyperX DDR400 @ (defaults?)
2 x 512 - Kingston HyperX DDR400 @ 2.5-3-3-8
2 x 512 - Mushkin Level 2 DDR400 @ 2-2-2-5 (2.75V)
2 x 256 - Mushkin Level 2 DDR400 @ 2-2-2-5
2 x 256 + 1 x 512 - Muskin Basic DDR400 @ (defaults?)
2 x 512 - Twinx CLPRO DDR400 @ (defaults?)
2x512- Pny Verto DDR433 @defualts
AMD 3400+ systems...
BIOS 1.2
2 x 512 - Kingmax (MPXC22D-38KT3R) DDR400 @ defaults
2 x 512 - Mushkin Level 2 Black DDR433 @ 2-3-2-5
you may have to email you mem manufacturer and manually set timings and voltages to get your memory working.
HARD DRIVES......Here you have alot of choices, basically two categories, SATA and PATA(IDE). There are many brands and speeds, IDE drives come in different speeds, such as ata33, ata66, ata 100, ata 133 for hard drives, the 33,100,133, being theoretical maximum transfer rating MB/sec.
newer ata(IDE)hard drives are ata100 which is ultra 5, and ata133 ,ultra6 is ,
PIO mode is the standard data transfer mode without the ultra enhancements, the fastest being 16.66 mb/sec. ultra 2 is 33 mb/sec . So when i say my CD,DVD, and DVD are ultra 2 it means they transfer at a maximum of 33 mb/sec, and my Maxtor hardrives are ultra 6 and have a maximum transfer of133 mb/sec. my old zip100 transfers at a max of 16 mb/sec since its in pio mode. Note these are maximum speeds, my hardrive transfers more like 65 mb/sec sustained according to SIS Sandra.
That is why SATA 150 is such a big deal, vs say a Western digital ata100
SATA is a different interface all together and can transfers closer to its maximum
theoretical speed. BUT the pci bus itself is limited to 133 mb/sec so an add-on card
should never be able to reach over 133, regardless, of SCSI,IDE, or SATA
so on the k8t neo you have some choices. With the IDE you can use, IDE1,2, or 3
IDE1&2 are ata100. ) to attach use a 80pin round or flat cable, the first slot goes into the mobo, the middle connector is for a slave or should be left empty, use the end for master, or single drive. you must also setup jumpers for hd or cds.
The master is primary unit and the slave is secondary unit, for each channel.
Or use the Cable Select jumper and USUALLY the BIOS will select the drive for you.
IDE1 & 2 is ata100, or 133 depending on board if using for only 2 drives put them on different channels
...ie master on IDE 1, and master on IDE 2 . that way they will have maximum bandwidth. especially for disk to disk copies or burning
IDE3 RAID is ata133, or can be raid 0 or 1 by the promise chip. 0 being striped for performance,1 being mirrored for safety, mirror only protects hd from failure,not viruses,or corruption for that you need a backup or as i prefer a drive image program such as accronis trueimage..linux compatible.and Norton ghost.you will first have to enable the promise chip in the bios, then you have to load drivers by hitting F6 during windows installation, and insert floppy drive, yes you will need a floppy, at least for initial setup. If you want to set up raid you will have to do that first before loading windows,by hitting ctrl+F (read quick user's guide Serial ata raid, serial ata) only hd's can use ide3.If you don't have enough IDE slots you can add on pci card with one or two more headers for up to 4 more drives, I added a Maxtor ultra ata133, since i have 5 idehd's and 3 DVD/cds.
SATA, here you have two choices, use the Promise chip set or the Via. Either one or both can be set to raid0 or 1, see users guide to setup, You will also have to enable them first in bios, and F6 and load floppy drivers to use in windows install, or load drivers in windows if using an existing install. either chip-set can be set for raid, in the manual, opinions are that the Via is faster, but you wont have a HD LED activity indicator light, The promise will have a HD light, but is slightly slower.
Also note that SATAs don't OC as well as IDE hard drives, they can even crash and loose data.
always make a backup of your computer, and remember raid 1 does nothing for virus, or contaminated installs.
SOUND....Here you have a few choices, On board or Card, unfortunately not both, yet.(UPDATE Bios Version 1.5 and above will fix this)... If using a card there have been some issues with Audigy 1 cards, but there may be a cure in this threadhttps://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=46849&sid=( Moved to stickies) audigy2 and 2zs cards work fine as do turtle beach.
on-board sound is not as high definition and uses some CPU cycles, so a card might be advantageous to gamers.
REALTEK GIGABIT...Is the on-board Ethernet, you will need to load drivers once in windows, it has caused some problems booting, as it can be set to a boot device as well. you will get a message "failed to boot press any key."..then "ntdlr error"...to fix this you may need to hit the key combination during boot to set it up, it will bring you to a menu, you need to set boot order, i recommend setting it to bios, and you can adjust or disable message and time length it is displayed.
VIDEO CARDS- You should install an agp 8x directx9 video card for best performance. Ati has better directx support so is better for gaming, but Nvida has better OpenGL so if you want to do 3d in Linux, you have better luck with Nvida.
When you set up windows, install via 4-1 drivers first, then the video drivers, check video manufacturer's website for updated drivers. make sure any extra power leads are plugged in. In bios Agp should be fast write enabled, and
if you are using 1024 of ram aperture size to 256, but check 3dmark to see which setting is faster.
BIOS- NO BIOS INSTALLED This is a message that you see during boot up from the promise on-board raid saying that it found no drives attached to its SATA or IDE channels so it's not installed the BIOS.This IS NOT a problem or anything to worry about!
jumping Bios reset jumper, be careful, make sure power is off. jump it and return it to the original position. If you power on with jumper in reset position you can erase your bios...requiring a Return to Manufacturer Authorization(RMA)
I have had no problems using windows updating to the latest bios ,It cured some issues, such as firewire ports, sound blaster audigy1 troubles,tweaked temps displayed,and so on. but be sure to have a backup of original bios disk. I have heard new 1.8 beta bios cures Newcastle temp problems.
some good settings are.. SMART enabled this will warn you of hard disk failure,System bios cacheble and shadow ram are more for older computers and should be set to disable.boot to os2- disable...memory setting vary by card and some even need to be set manually so check with manufacturer or get familiar with cmos reset jumper.(just be sure to have power off)...plug and play os to disable(more of a win 98 thing) disable serials and parallel ports if you don't need them, as with on-board sound firewire etc. this is just a few pointers the rest is a more personal thing, but i have heard turbo setting causes problems and is best left to fast, and dynamic oc'ing is similar use at your own risk
USB keyboard don't forget to enable USB in the BIOS. This caused some problems when installing XP. Without USB enabled in BIOS when you come to the "Hit any key to proceed" the install will fail with the ntldr error
POWER SAVINGS...Having trouble getting fans or case lights to shut off on standby set to S3, then disable apm, and be sure to set a wakeup event..such as wake from usb, or keyboard command. I have agp boot disable, but depends on card.
Want to know more about bios, and what those settings are? click this link
http://www.rojakpot.com/(eb1mg5zatgcf5r55lv5no155)/default.aspx?location=9
CORE CENTER....Another personal choice, I like it and use it a lot, to increase and decrease fsb without going through bios. the NB fan sensor should read 0 unless you plug a fan onto it, personally i have an 80mm antec and it doesn't read it, but i tried a old CPU fan and it worked fine.
COOL AND QUIET Another personal choice, I don't use it because some people have had there CPUs power down in the middle of games, and such
(it goes down to 800 MHz) others had small bugs in there system that went away when they disabled it. But some like it and use it a lot. Good for energy savings.
want to get your boot time down
start by selecting OS drive as first in boot sequence, you can always change bios when you want to boot from floppy or CD(which isn't often).disable floppy drive seek
then clean out your startup folder under rt click explore start button.
try and get services set to auto down to about 25. defrag your hdrive routinely,
. ditch wall paper, and get rid of windows startup screen.(msconfig,boot.ini.and check noguiboot). keep your drivers updated
if you can find it you can use then try bootvis, but microsoft doesn't support it anymore.Programs ..some useful free utilities are listed below, check goggle, until i make links for them.
SiS Sandrahttp://www.sisoftware.net/, a good all around benchmark,burn in and, info display
3DMARK.http://www.futuremark.com/download/.Mostly a Video tester, good for checking OC though.
Microsoft Memory testerms memtester
+86memtest.http://www.memtest86.com/..and Prime95http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htmvery good mem testers, and tests for stability
spybot search and destroy, http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=homeand
Lavasoft's ad-aware http://www.lavasoftusa.comgot to have for house cleaning.
atitool, http://atitool.ocfaq.com/oc ap for ati cards,click find max core let it go for 15min or so,then set back to default, and click find max mem...for 15min or so, and now you have the max you can set your video card too.(but set safety limits before manually setting)
[STRIKEOUT]mbm5 mbm5 link good alternative temp readings to corecenter.[/STRIKEOUT]
good program but discontinued.
OTHER USEFUL PROGRAMS
Norton utilities, good all around disk and OS utility
Norton Internet secuirity, or similar firewall and virus protector
Norton ghost, or other drive image software fantastic for backups
BF1942...lol just fun
HOME NETWORKING I will add this part because of additional posing of errors
dealing with USB Broadband routers...try using on board realtek or other Ethernet connection it will save your sanity.
well i have a real poor mans router setup for you
2 Ethernet slots, one for for broadband router and one to share.
if you only want one other computer, use a crossover cable, otherwise, use a hub or switch(better) and let Internet connection wizard and home networking on your machines work their magic,want a firewall download some software there are even, fairly decent free ones.the speed of the card isn't important because broadband still isn't over 10mb/sec yet, so blow the dust off that card in the closet and put it to work.or if your really brave or really cheap you can try to use the usb input from broadband, and on board ether, or firewire port, to link computers
Trouble shooting
for total no boot/post failure
I know you may know how to build a computer, and i know this is basic, so bear with me here, but at this point you have to do a methodical by the book check list.
revision
A: when you first install your motherboard make sure it does not contact case,
use all nine mounting points, make sure that your case either has built in risers, or use the small brass standoffs, and don't forget the fiber washers.
when you installed your CPU you:
1 ___you properly handle equipment so no static damage can occur, (properly grounded)
2____.you fully lift the CPU ziff socket arm up, orient the gold triangle marking arrow,pins and it easily dropped into socket, with no bent pins ,
3 ___ backer plate mounted carefully no missing pieces of the board flying off, ( i have seen people launch capacitors, and the like )
4 ____obviously you removed the plastic thermal pad cover, and heatsink was evenly locked down, and fully seated, and correctly plugged into mobo cpufan1.
and you fully removed old thermal pad/grease and applied new artic silver, or new heatsink with plastic on pad,you didn't reuse old paste or pad.
memory
5 _____memory stick(not sticks, at this point you just want to get it working, not full blast with a gig of ram etc)is fully seated and properly oriented in slot, and is 184 pin ddr non-registered , non ecc ram , and you have tried different non corsair, non twinmoss, brands that have been known to work. and/ or
tried to set manually mem speed/voltage for some models of corsair, twinmoss, and kingston)
6.____ plug in only power switch pins 6,8and power led to jfp1, pins 2,4 and they are turned correctly,
7. ____your new psu has the 20 pin and square 4 pin power connector plugged in to jpw1 turned right and fully seated. and has a bare min of 18a on 12v+ rail.
8 ____your video card is fully seated an locked down,also securely screwed in.
9 ____your floppy drive cable iss facing right way (pin1 is matched with red stripe)
10. ____you have ata cables for hd and CD set to master/slave or cs. with hard drive set as master, end of cable.
11 _____the power plugs are all fully seated, including psu rear plug,floppy ,hd, and CD.
12. _____keyboard(ps2) and mouse plugged in, monitor plugged into video card,
13 ______every thing is fully secured in case, side cover is off.
14 ______CMOS jumper is set 1,2 keep data, all usb stuff is unplugged, except for dbracket.
power it up, one beep, fans spin, in psu and CPU, and video card,
you get no bios found error,(promise adapter not finding satas..no worries)
or hit Del to go into bios, set boot order, and .......
.........your now at the end of the road, and it should by all means work,
now what i am after,
there are no bent pins, on CPU, you reapplied artic silver paste.
no loose wires,
properly applied heat sink with fan cooling,
you have tried different brands of known ,to work in an MSI k8tneo
ddr ram 1 stick at a tme.
you have tried different video cards, and in case of higher end card, the external molex power supply as plugged in,
you have tried different ata hard drives
you then have tried have set up your SATA drive correctly .
everything is securely plugged in ..fully seated and oriented the right way?
what are d-bracket error light, and any beep codes?
you have tried a different wall outlet, you have changed surge protectors,
you never hot plugged video cards, hd cables or power etc.
i know this redundant , and basic , it is not meant to be insulting , it is meant to be a checklist and rule out all basic errors and potential problems
if your mem bandwidth is slower then 3000..like 2400 this may help
Received from a user - Slow memory 1T Command fix
OK, here's what to do. Download the following ftp://ftp.vector.co.jp/pack/win95/hardware/other/wpcrs120.exe extract it, and run InstDD.exe. It'll ask to reboot, you don't need to do it right away, at least I didn't have to. Fire up WPCRSET.exe and do the following. Under startup, click on start, and under device, click enable. Now click add. The bus device and function will be 0,24, and 2. The register and data values will be the 93,08. There we have it! Enjoy everyone. I know I'm much happier now.
Here's a graphic to make it easier:
I will add more by edit, or post as needed but i should post now so it can be put to use.
I would like to Thank BAS,wonkaboy, Jocko, ethereal, Tiresmoke, Reilly, and the many others whose valued input helps solve problems.

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amd 64=12a @12V
ati 9800=7.5~10.5a @12V (assuming 90~125 watts) a max load,
a 9600 ir nvida 5200 used far less power
so your already at 18a with no fan,s no hd, no cd,no dvd ,no mobo chipset , no mem, no sound..etc
If you exclude the motherboard, memory, etc like you did there, the amd 64 draws 7.2A @ 12V.
90~125W for an ATI 9800?! [irony]Are you working for a PSU manufacturer or what?[/irony] That's just absurd.
Go read this post to get a feel for the actual power consumption: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?postid=297061&sid=#post297061

K8T Neo-FIS2R - P20378 Sata Controller option missing in BIOS. Cannot disable

A few hairs left....& those are disappearing quickly.......!!!!
I currently have Windows XP PRo running under a Promise SATA Drive. (NO RAID REQUIRED)
In order to allow for a fallback situation (which I am still using swapping between WIN XP & Vista), I found a 20GB IDE Disk attached it to the standard IDE controller & did a clean install of VISTA ULTIMATE on the 20GB Drive...So Far so good.
Next I booted up changed the boot sequence to pickup the 20GB IDE drive first ...Vista Came up....Still so far so good.
Then I found my mouse ...& both USB printers were not recognised.....2 days later I have them all going okay....one problem at a time....
The only issue left ... I cannot see the SATA Drive attached to the promise controller.....I have tried following a few of suggested methods to load the promise drivers that are around......still no luck. Most of the posts I see are around installing VISTA on a SATA drive...my case is just seeing a SATA drive this not the O/S disk.
Moving on ...no luck with the Promise Drives ...so I have tried changing to the VIA Controller by unplugging the SATA cord from the Promise controller & plugging into the VIA Controller ... I boot up & still no luck...The BIOS picks up the VIA change as I see a option to use <TAB> to setup RAID during bootup.. I do not want RAID only a single SATA Drive. One of the things I read was to turn off Promise via the BIOS settings . The manual indicates I need to access this by going to the "Onboard PCI Controller option", here I should be able to turn off the P20378 S.ata Controller...
my problem is ...I can see only the Lan Controller as a option to disable/ enable the other options including the P20378 S.ata Controller.. are not visible.. hence I am unable to disable the Promise SATA Controller within the BIOS..... HELP pretty please..... I can happily run VISTA but I do not have 150GB visible to me & my current disk space is tight.....I need that 150GB ...........
signed...frustated NOOB
PS I have the most recent drivers/ bios etc according the MSI's Online S/W synch tool (which I run in XP Pro as the vista version fails.... DOH)
MB --> K8T NEO FISR2
Memory 1GB
Appreciate your help ..... TA

I agree with Hans, as far as we know there are no drivers for Vista to use the Promise controller, yet.
Same old, same old, Vista and no drivers.
You just have to wait and hope there wil be Vista drivers for the Promise controller.

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