K8T Neo-FSR/ FIS2R BIos HT link questions

RIG#2 MSI K8T NEO-FSR/ FIS2R(MOBO)Bios v7.1WIN XP SP2,ATHLON 64 2800+LAPPED(OC'D@2100MHZ CURRENTLY MORE TO COME),LAPPED STOCK HEATSINK,VISIONTEK XTASY 9550 128MB DDR,SAMSUNG 512MB PC3200,CD-RW,CD PLAYER,IBM 80GB IDE HDD,OKIA 600W PSU,BROADWAY COMPUTER CASE WITH DUCTING THROUGH SIDE OF CASE HOOKED DIRECTLY TO STOCK THE HSF AND GHETTO A/C COOLING
I am trying to find out how to change the ht link in my bios. I know it is a dinosaur as far as boards go but I'm in a contest and just trying to play around with it. I don't have a setting named HT link like on my 939 board and I'm trying to find out if it is named something else in this particular bios. Can anyone help me out here? Thanx in advance for any reply's.
THOMAS

Hey thanx for the heads up on that bas but wanna see something funny
http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=777990
Check out the HT on Cpu-z in the screenshot. I was thinking that cant be right but I double checked and it was I guess I got lucky with the HT being that high.
THOMAS

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Hey thanx for the heads up on that bas but wanna see something funny
http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=777990
Check out the HT on Cpu-z in the screenshot. I was thinking that cant be right but I double checked and it was I guess I got lucky with the HT being that high.
THOMAS

K8T NEO FSR bad bios or bad CPU?

Hi - I just got a K8T NEO-FSR with an Athlon 64 3000 (newcastle) and 512 Meg of Corsair value select memory. I installed everything fine and tried to install a fresh copy of windows xp home but I kept getting a blue screen of death and a registry error (from the CD!!).
I then reformatted my drive and put a copy of windows 2000 pro on it. After updating the drivers, everything seemed to be OK. But - I was getting a few random problems (CD stopped working, freeze, etc). I was going to try to install XP but I thought I should probably upgrade the BIOS first just to make sure that wasn't the problem.
Well - I followed the instructions for updating the BIOS (I've done it before for other systems) and everything seemed to go smoothly until I tried to reboot. Nothing - it powers up but doesn't do anything. I assumed that something must be wrong with the BIOS. I double checked which file I was using A6702VMS.180.
I then tried a BIOS recovery. I reformatted a floppy on a windows XP machine and put a copy of the BIOS that I had backed up before the flash onto the disk named AMIBIOS.ROM. Then I unplugged the power supply and every piece of hardware except the CPU, reset the CMOS, and let it sit for 15 minutes. Then I reconnected the floppy and plugged in a PS2 keyboard into the back. Pushed down CTRL and HOME and turned the power on. Nothing. Tried it again with each CTRL key and with the regular HOME key and the keypad. Nothing.
The LED's on the back panel show all 4 red which the manual says is a bad CPU. Could my CPU have died somehow? Did I miss something obvious?
My power supply is an Enermax 350W with 32A on 3.3V, 32A on 5V, and 17A on 12V.
Any thoughts? I'm a little annoyed that I can't find a definitive source for how many amps on each of the rails the main board and CPU need. I've found widely varying advice on all of the boards I've read.
Thanks,
Ted

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1) The PSU that you have is quite weak on the +12v Rail & could be the cause of your problems, most people on here recommend 20a on the +12v Rail.
I've seen people on various boards throw numbers anywhere from 15A to 30A for the 12V rail. However, I haven't seen anyone quote any hard sources. My back of the envelope computations:
CPU: 89 W (max power from AMD's web site)
MEM: uses 3.3V
Floppy: uses 5V
CD: 20W
RAM: uses 3.3V
HD: 15W
Geforce2 GTS graphics card: 8W
which gives me about 132W on the 12V rail at maximum power usage (which - since I haven't done anything I doubt I've hit). This would be about 11 amps which is easily covered by my power supply. And - the 89W number form AMD is for all the Athlon64 chips of which the 3000 is the very low end so it's probably less than that.
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2) You may have faulty RAM & i would recommend running a memory testing program just to check that is ok.
Could the RAM be faulty even though I had a windows 2000 setup running reasonably well? The BIOS did do a memory check on each startup (I turned that on when I first installed the board).
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As for the system not booting now, sounds like you have a bad BIOS flash & that you will need to get the BIOS reflashed or RMA your motherboard.
I don't think this board supports reflashing - the chip is soldered onto the board. Any idea why the rescue procedure isn't working?

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Quote from: TV34 on 24-May-14, 00:01:27
@ XFM
from http://www.elektronik-kompendium.de/sites/com/1006201.htm
Schnittstelle Bandbreite Reichweite Geräteanzahl Einführung
Serial-ATA (SATA) 150 MByte/s 1 m 4 2003
Serial-ATA-II (SATA 2 / SATA-300) 300 MByte/s 1 m 16 2005
Serial-ATA-III (SATA 6G / SATA-600) 600 MByte/s 1 m 16 2007
mfg Tino
Got news for you, that's a typo there. * Should read 3 G. You apparently still don't understand the proper terminology.
Yes that's correct, SATA does not use jumpers for Master, Slave or Cable Select like PATA drives do.

K8T800 K8T NEO-FSR Memory Problems

Just a warning before I start in, this is a pretty long post. I'm going to try to include all the information I can.
Here's my system right now. It's running Windows XP Professional with all the latest updates.
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor. Not overclocked at all.
Motherboard: MSI K8T800 K8T NEO-FSR, latest BIOS updates from MSI
Video Card: ATI RADEON 9800PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, latest Catalyst drivers from ATI installed. Not overclocked at all.
Memory: Mushkin 184 Pin 2x512MB DDR400 PC-3200, running at DDR400 with Auto selected for all the memory timings in the BIOS. Memory placed in DIMM#1 and DIMM#2. Not overclocked at all.
Hard Drive: Western Digital 80 Gig
I started experiencing random reboots and critical errors in game applications on Sunday. The computer would randomly reboot at random intervals from Windows. In addition, while running games like Warcraft 3, Asheron's Call, or World of Warcraft I would receive frequent critical errors that certain sections of the memory could not either be read or written to.
I figured that there was some kind of problem with the memory, so I downloaded Memtest86 and ran it. The first stick of RAM was in DIMM#1 and the second stick in DIMM#2. This was the memory configuration during all the random reboots and critical errors.
Memtest86 came up with several failures during the 5th phase of the test. The same failures came up upon repeated testing in the same phase of the test. I decided to try to isolate the failure and see if one stick or the other was defective. I yanked out the second stick from DIMM#2 and left the first stick in DIMM#1. The first stick (which I'll refer to as the "good RAM stick") passed the memtest repeatedly. I then stuck the second RAM stick into DIMM#1 alone and the computer would not even POST.
I then moved the second RAM stick (which I'll refer to as the "bad RAM stick") over to DIMM#2 alone and managed to get it to POST. The bad stick failed the memtest with the exact same errors during the same phase of testing as the combined sticks had failed during the initial test. For the sake of completeness, I moved the bad stick over to DIMM#1 alone and finally managed to get it to POST. However, the bad stick passed the memtest repeatedly. Puzzled, I moved the bad stick over to DIMM#3 alone and tested it there, which it also passed repeatedly. I moved it back into DIMM#2 alone and it failed the test repeatedly again and again.
Intrigued, I then moved the good RAM stick into DIMM#2 alone, to try to see if perhaps there was some kind of motherboard error occurring. The good stick passed the memtest repeatedly in DIMM#2. I then moved the good stick into DIMM#3 alone and it passed the test repeatedly in that slot.
After checking the motherboard manual to make sure I could do it, I put the bad stick in DIMM#1 and the good stick in DIMM#3 and ran the memtest. The combined sticks passed the test where previously, while configured in DIMM#1 and DIMM#2, they had failed it. I moved the sticks back into DIMM#1 and DIMM#2 to test again. The combined sticks failed as they had during the initial test.
I then reconfigured the sticks to DIMM#1 and DIMM#3 again and booted up the system. Although I only had limited testing time last night, I seemed to be totally stable. The system did not reboot at all and I actually managed to play WoW for an hour without a single crash.
Any suggestions on what's occuring? I figured that maybe the mobo's memory seating in DIMM#2 was messed up, but I wanted to get some more guidance from others.

Well if it's an Antec Sl-350, that one only has 16A @ 12V, way too little to handle your system.....
I would get another PSU in any case, as even the TP-380 is bare minimum.....
Go for the Enermax 465 it has 33A @ 12V and then you are sure it's not a power problem...
Also, a good PSU is never a waiste of money

K8T NEO FSR problems and questions.

I read this in an article on http://www.hardware.no:
"MSI is one of the companies that offer free upgrade to a new motherboard with better
specifications, if you have bought 915P Neo2 Platinum, 915P Combo-FR or 915G Combo FR
in the period of time between 21st and 27th june."
Late in june, I bought myself MSI K8T Neo-FSR motherboard, and an Athlon 64 3200+2.2GHz.
When I run "Core Center", the program shows that my CPU idle temp is 60 Celsius and my
sys temp is 36 degrees, which is COMPLETELY wrong?!?!.
This is very weird, because I have a nice computer case with 5 fans that blow out all
the warm air inside. When I play games, the CPU goes up to 65 degrees and my computer
restarts. This is VERY annoying. How do you turn this off in BIOS settings?
I'm quite frustrated with the thought that my CPU temp. shows 60-70 Celsius.
I have read tons of other forums and I have found out that it's not only me that experience
this problem. I seriously hope that you will fix this bug ASAP.
Does this offer also apply to K8T NEO-FSR? Can I get a free upgrade?
If I don't get my problems fixed, I will take further actions.
My System specifications:
MSI K8T NEO-FSR, Athlon 64 3200+2.2GHz, Asus Geforce 4 Ti 4400, TwinMOS 1024 DDR3200 RAM, Western digital 80+120+80 GB 7200 RPM, Chieftec BX Tower BX-03SL-SL-SL P4 / AMD, 2x papst 120mm fans, 2x 80mm papst fans, 1 fan in the door of the computer case.

I never heard MSI was doing such an offer...
Anyway, you need the latest BIOS, that solves the temps reading thing, this happens because AMD changed the CPU a bit.
It's not getting that hot, it's just a reading failure.
A BIOS flash should solve it.

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K8T Neo-FSR BIOS didn't know sampron64

Blue screens have nothing to do with the Bios update. Those are trypically symptopmatic of other issues like low amps on the 12v rail for the devices you use or memopry issues and that like. Start by testing memory with memtest86+ as it is one of the likelyest suspects. Also post how many amps are on the 12v rail base on the lable on the PSU.
As for contacting MSI directly about when a Bios update is coming won'y get an answer but you are welcomed to contact them at support.msi.com.tw if you like.

K8T Neo-FSR Audio Port Question

I recently purchased and installed a K8T Neo-FSR. So far, I've been very happy with the board, but I do have a question about it's audio capabilities that I thought you folks might be able to assist with. I currently have only three ports to my onboard audio: Line-In, Line-Out, and Microphone. I would like to utilize more than two speakers, but don't know how to go about doing this. I was looking at the S-Bracket (K31-3012001-A11) accessory, but I'm not even sure if it's compatible with my board, (the connector in the PC Club picture doesn't look like it would go into anything I can see on the board). Is there something I can get to add these ports if the S-Bracket PC Club offers is not the solution? I've searched this board and a few others and haven't been able to find anything on this subject. Thanks, in advance, for any help/reccomendations you folks can offer.

...you'll have to refer to the manual for jumper settings to change those three connections to "surround" sound...
...what do you mean by more than two speakers?..my powered speakers (nothing special) have Left, Right and Subwoofer...you can also get a mini-plug to RCA cord and plug into your home stereo (using the green connection on the computer, no jumper modification > line in or auxilliary on the stereo)...

Which BIOS shall I use for " K8T Neo -FSR"??

I bought a MSI K8T Neo- FSR board yesterday. But when I looked at the MSI web site I haven't seen ...FSR board, I only see ...FS2R board instead. So which BIOS shall I download and flash? There is also no any explanation about FSR. My board carries the BIOS V1.1. On the other hand it writes this informatin on the board; " K8t Neo 6702 rev. 1.0"

...here's the product page...I found it the other day but I can't remember how ...got lucky, I guess...
...BIOS version?..I've always used Live Update in Windows...just follow the directions to the letter...there are beta versions available in the forums...the current one is getting good reviews...

K8T Neo FSR DOA

I am helping a new builder with an upgrade from a working system. We installed a K8T Neo FSR and AMD 2800 Retail in an existing,working system system. The current specs are:
WIndows XP Home (all patches)
MSI K8T Neo FSR MB
AMD 64 2800 Retail CPU
1024 Meg Super Talent PC 3200 memory (512x2)
80 M WD HD
Liteon CR-RW/DVD reader
HEC 525 PA ( 3.3V-35A, 12V-18A,5V-14A,)
Nvidiia 5700LE video
Since installing the upgrade the system will not initialize. Sometimes the fans (case and CPU) spin for about 1 second and then shut down and at other times nothing happens at all. I have read the posts about JBAT1 and found it to be apparently misconfigured (two pins nearest the DIMM were connected). When reconfigured (pins farthest from DIMMS connected) nothing at all happens at boot up. I have limited experience with 754 MBs but lengthy experience with K7 on various platforms.
Questions:
The diiagnostic LEDs on the D-Bracket do not light, what does this imply?
Although I have had good previous experience with HEC PS, is it likely that it does not have sufficient 12V current to start the board? Does this board/CPU combo reallly need 20A plus of 12V to initialize as some posts seem to indicate?
Does the lack of diagnostic readout imply failure of either the MB or CPU? If yes, how do I identify which?
I have tried all the usual stuff (running with only one memory stick in slot 1, reseating CPU/looking for bent pins, memory and video reseating and checking all connections). The board appears properly installed on stanchions. How to troubleshoot a shorted MB?
I have another PS (an Antec True Power 430) but haven't tried it yet. Is there a FAQ to help troubleshoot a situation like this? ( yes I have browsed the forum but maybe am not bright enough to find the right section)
All ideas are welcomed.
Joe

I am getting nowhere with this fast. As per the previous suggestion I insulated the board from the standoffs with cardboard and retried again. Same thing, fans spin for perhaps one second and then nothing. The D-Bracket never lights. I then pulled an Antec Tru-Power 430 from another working system and tried again, same thing. I think this motherboard has failed. Before I request an RMA anything that I might have missed?
System spec (not the same as my signature which is another MSI machine)
AMD 2800 754 CPU and retail HSF
MSI K8T Neo FSR MB
2x512 Super Talent PC 3200 memory
HEC 475 PS (3.3V 35A, 5V 41A 12V 18A)
WD 80G HD
Nvidia 5700 LE graphics
Liteon CD/RW-DVD
lots of case fans
This board was purchased by the young builder from Newegg who I gather no longer supports RMAs on motherboards. Any comments on RMA service through MSI? I found the link on the website but haven't helped him complet it yet.
Thanks,
Joe

MSI K8T NEO FSR with AMD 64 3200 - Can´t install WIN XP

Hi.
I´m writing you because i have a problem with an MSI K8t-Neo FSR.
The description of my PC:
MSI K8t-Neo FSR
AMD 64bits 3200 (640 cache)
HD 160 SATA Seagate Barracuda
1gb DDR 400mhz
Floppy 3 1/2
CDRW 52x32x52 LG
Video ATI RADEON 9600 XT
The problem is the following:
When I try to install Windows XP, when I press F8 to accept the Terms, it shows me an error message (IO 104 i think) and it hangs up or reboot.
I tried with another two Proccessors and motherboards (same model obviously) but it didn´t work.
Could it be a defectuous production serie of that model????
Or what do you think the problem is????
Thank you very much for your help.
I´ll be waiting for your answer!
Lucas Revale
PF: I´ve already tried updating the BIOS.

Thank you all for trying to help me!!!
I've already tried using only te necesary drivers.
I´ve also tried another VGA, another HD, another CDRW, another power supply, and an AMD 64 2800+.
It seems to be that the three motherboards i tried were defectous.
Does anyone has any other idea?!?!?
I´d really aprecciate your help!

K8T Neo-FSR SATA Limits?

I have an old PC with an AMD Athlon 64 2800+ processor and a K8T Neo-FSR with a VIA® VT8237 chipset. This board has two 1.5 Gb/s SATA connections so I decided to put these to use by turning this old PC into a file server (NAS). I bought some refurbished 250 GB drives for a RAID 1 setup from Newegg and plugged them in and the firmware did not detect them. I upgraded the BIOS to the latest version (1.9) and it still didn't detect the drives. It's my guess that there's a limit on how much that chipset can support. Does anyone know what it is? I've tried searching extensively for it, but can't find any info on any limitations as far as SATA.
For readers' simplicity, here's the URL for the info page: us.msi.com/product/mb/K8T_NeoFSR_FIS2R.html (copy and paste).
Please note that I have no interest in purchasing a new system as a replacement. I know this board is a decade old and well beyond its EOL, but it works and it is paid for, so please don't go there. Thanks!

Quote from: TV34 on 24-May-14, 00:01:27
@ XFM
from http://www.elektronik-kompendium.de/sites/com/1006201.htm
Schnittstelle Bandbreite Reichweite Geräteanzahl Einführung
Serial-ATA (SATA) 150 MByte/s 1 m 4 2003
Serial-ATA-II (SATA 2 / SATA-300) 300 MByte/s 1 m 16 2005
Serial-ATA-III (SATA 6G / SATA-600) 600 MByte/s 1 m 16 2007
mfg Tino
Got news for you, that's a typo there. * Should read 3 G. You apparently still don't understand the proper terminology.
Yes that's correct, SATA does not use jumpers for Master, Slave or Cable Select like PATA drives do.

Sempron 64 3000 on MSI MB K8T NEO - FSR

I have a problem with MB MSI K8T NEO - FSR. When I put on CPU Sempron 2600 SDA2600AIO2BA, it works fine and the MB detect it fine,
but when I put on CPU Sempron 64 3000 SDA3000AIO2BX, the MB not recognize the new processor and reports AMD Unknown Processor.
I have the latest BIOS on the mainboard, but the problem remains. Can someone help me who had the same problem?

Cool and Quiet for one. C&Q is not working from my understanding on the Semperon 64's ATM. There is also a fix shown by one other gentleman here in this forum area about removing a file that is associated with C&Q functions. CPUSlowdown or some such. I don't have a Semperon 64 so I can not confirm this though.

K8T Neo FSR Won't Boot!

Hello!
My system doesn't boot . It power all of the fans and disk. The Power and Hard Disk leds stay lit (no blinking) the D-Bracket shows 3 red leds and one green led (green is on the lower left). I try without any disk units, no cards (just my graphic card which I test on my P4 machine and is OK) and just 1 stick of ram. The sytem was working "normally" except for some sporadics blue screens and reboots and the no NVRAM thing and that my RAM gets automatically reset to 200 (that's why I try the 1.92B BIOS ver) Last thing I remember was flashing the 1.92B Bios using the windows utility and after that kaput! What can I do? are there any procedures to fix this or did I kill my mobo?
Any tips suggestions will be really apreciated, many thanks in advance.
K8T NEO FSR
AMD Athlon 64 2800+
Markvision Value RAM DDR400 512 x 2
MSI GeForce4 Ti4200
Seagate Barracuda 80 GB
Old ACER CD-ROM 40x

Hi
The lower left led is inialising the Keyboard controller. ODD if nothing has been changed.
you can reset the comp by clearing the jbat1 jumper. Switch power off first, page 2-25 of manual. If that does not work make a rescue disk. place file AMIBOOT.ROM on floppy put floppy in drive, reboot and press ctrl + home.
But check the keyboard first.
cheers
jocko

K8T Neo-FSR will not boot Windows XP

Hello,
I just finished swapping out my old Asus P4B266 motherboard for an MSI
K8T Neo-FSR. I plugged all my old components into the motherboard and
started it up. I can get into the BIOS and everything seems to be ok
as it detects all my drives (Seagate 120 GB IDE, Zip-100, Floppy 1.44,
Creative Labs DVD and Plextor DVD burner). However, after exiting the
BIOS, I get the screen that tells me to select how Windows XP should
start (safe mode, safe mode with command prompt, safe mode with
networking, or start normally). This is where my problem is. I
cannot get Windows XP to boot regardless of which option I choose. I
really do not want to have to reformat my drive. If anyone has a
solution or suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in
advance.
Current hardware:
K8T Neo-FSR
Athlon 64 2800+
512 MB Crucial PC3200 RAM (non-ECC, unbuffered) CAS=3
120 GB Seagate IDE Hard Drive
(trying to load) Windows XP with SP1

Hi
Not a lot without BIG risk of losing some data. If you have mega important files, you will of course have several backups, and backups of back ups.
So you could slip another HDD in a bay and plug the cable from your Sys HDD into it. Then install OS to it, and use it to check and repair your IMPORTANT HDD, after, of course, you have done ANOTHER BACKUP. you may be able to use disk management or device manager to fix MBR and boot files. As your offending HDD and the old C: partition, will will have a new Partition letter now, you can use XP CD repair facility of repair your previous installation. You will of course lose IE and OE info and settings, but not a lot else. But there again havng back up to Express Assist all your emails,OE settings and accounts along with all yout IE settings and data, will be restored at the touch of a couple of keys.
cheers
jocko

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