K8T Neo-FSR SATA Limits?

I have an old PC with an AMD Athlon 64 2800+ processor and a K8T Neo-FSR with a VIA® VT8237 chipset. This board has two 1.5 Gb/s SATA connections so I decided to put these to use by turning this old PC into a file server (NAS). I bought some refurbished 250 GB drives for a RAID 1 setup from Newegg and plugged them in and the firmware did not detect them. I upgraded the BIOS to the latest version (1.9) and it still didn't detect the drives. It's my guess that there's a limit on how much that chipset can support. Does anyone know what it is? I've tried searching extensively for it, but can't find any info on any limitations as far as SATA.
For readers' simplicity, here's the URL for the info page: us.msi.com/product/mb/K8T_NeoFSR_FIS2R.html (copy and paste).
Please note that I have no interest in purchasing a new system as a replacement. I know this board is a decade old and well beyond its EOL, but it works and it is paid for, so please don't go there. Thanks!

Quote from: TV34 on 24-May-14, 00:01:27
@ XFM
from http://www.elektronik-kompendium.de/sites/com/1006201.htm
Schnittstelle Bandbreite Reichweite Geräteanzahl Einführung
Serial-ATA (SATA) 150 MByte/s 1 m 4 2003
Serial-ATA-II (SATA 2 / SATA-300) 300 MByte/s 1 m 16 2005
Serial-ATA-III (SATA 6G / SATA-600) 600 MByte/s 1 m 16 2007
mfg Tino
Got news for you, that's a typo there. * Should read 3 G. You apparently still don't understand the proper terminology.
Yes that's correct, SATA does not use jumpers for Master, Slave or Cable Select like PATA drives do.

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well hang on there, 4 lights is proccessor error.
now carefully look at mobo 1st is heat sink doen all the way, you did take plastic off of heatsink, when you put the processor on the board you ligned up the triangles lifted release bar and processor slid right in all nice and easy...then locked bar down, and carfully placed heatsink on and locked it.
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@psu
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K8T800 K8T NEO-FSR Memory Problems

Just a warning before I start in, this is a pretty long post. I'm going to try to include all the information I can.
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I would get another PSU in any case, as even the TP-380 is bare minimum.....
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No, you put the jumper on the drive!
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And elsewhere: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=via+vt8237+sata2

MSI K8T NEO FSR with AMD 64 3200 - Can´t install WIN XP

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I had a problem similar to this on a case with a molded floppy slot. WHat it ended up being is that I screwed the floppy drive down too close to the case and the button was always slightly depressed. Enough that I could here it click when the disk slid in but the drive failed to work properly because the disk wasn't technically in. This drove me nuts because 3 drives failed to work all with same symptoms. Then I noticed when I hooked one up on the side of the case it worked fine.
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K8T NEO FSR problems and questions.

I read this in an article on http://www.hardware.no:
"MSI is one of the companies that offer free upgrade to a new motherboard with better
specifications, if you have bought 915P Neo2 Platinum, 915P Combo-FR or 915G Combo FR
in the period of time between 21st and 27th june."
Late in june, I bought myself MSI K8T Neo-FSR motherboard, and an Athlon 64 3200+2.2GHz.
When I run "Core Center", the program shows that my CPU idle temp is 60 Celsius and my
sys temp is 36 degrees, which is COMPLETELY wrong?!?!.
This is very weird, because I have a nice computer case with 5 fans that blow out all
the warm air inside. When I play games, the CPU goes up to 65 degrees and my computer
restarts. This is VERY annoying. How do you turn this off in BIOS settings?
I'm quite frustrated with the thought that my CPU temp. shows 60-70 Celsius.
I have read tons of other forums and I have found out that it's not only me that experience
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Does this offer also apply to K8T NEO-FSR? Can I get a free upgrade?
If I don't get my problems fixed, I will take further actions.
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MSI K8T NEO-FSR, Athlon 64 3200+2.2GHz, Asus Geforce 4 Ti 4400, TwinMOS 1024 DDR3200 RAM, Western digital 80+120+80 GB 7200 RPM, Chieftec BX Tower BX-03SL-SL-SL P4 / AMD, 2x papst 120mm fans, 2x 80mm papst fans, 1 fan in the door of the computer case.

I never heard MSI was doing such an offer...
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It's not getting that hot, it's just a reading failure.
A BIOS flash should solve it.

K8T Neo FSR with Audigy 1 Problem

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2. Pulled ALL hrdware from system, except Video and Audigy, same results.
3. Last try, pulled EVERYTHING, including Audigy, and it booted normally.
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The above might be only 420W but it has 18 amps under 12+, which is fine for your setup.
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MOVED: K8T Neo-FSR BIOS didn't know sampron64

This topic has been moved to AMD64 VIA/AMD/ATI based board.
K8T Neo-FSR BIOS didn't know sampron64

Blue screens have nothing to do with the Bios update. Those are trypically symptopmatic of other issues like low amps on the 12v rail for the devices you use or memopry issues and that like. Start by testing memory with memtest86+ as it is one of the likelyest suspects. Also post how many amps are on the 12v rail base on the lable on the PSU.
As for contacting MSI directly about when a Bios update is coming won'y get an answer but you are welcomed to contact them at support.msi.com.tw if you like.

MOVED: K8T Neo-FIS2R SATA and Linux Question

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K8T Neo-FIS2R SATA and Linux Question

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Originally posted by chasmon
Hi all,
I have just setup up a brand new system but am having probelms getting it working. I want to install XP on a single Maxtor 160Gb drive.
I have my HD on Promise Ser1 and all SATA stuff in BIOS enabled. When I get to the screen I press F6 and then when promted I insert the floppy with the promise drivers on. I then get this message:
"File txtsetup.oem caused an unexpected error (4096) at line 1742 in d:\xpclient\base\boot\setup\oemdisk.c"
I can't get past this screen I have tried:
1.Drivers from the CD supplied.
2.Drivers from the MSI website.
Please help me this lot cost lots of hard earned I'm pretty gutted at the moment. I have also tried the Via chipset with no joy.
System:
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LG DVDROM 8163B
NEC DVDR/RW 2500B
Panasonic Floppy
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Benq RF K/B & Mouse
Don't spam man! I posted something to this same question in another thread.. from you no less! Make a new thread! lol
Hijacking = bad!
Ian

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Originally posted by jeri534
Yea, on MBM5, it's still around 45c on Idle, I guess the sensors are just off, right? Or should I get a replacement?
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weird..how bout on load?
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Cool and Quiet for one. C&Q is not working from my understanding on the Semperon 64's ATM. There is also a fix shown by one other gentleman here in this forum area about removing a file that is associated with C&Q functions. CPUSlowdown or some such. I don't have a Semperon 64 so I can not confirm this though.

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Thanks,
Ted

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1) The PSU that you have is quite weak on the +12v Rail & could be the cause of your problems, most people on here recommend 20a on the +12v Rail.
I've seen people on various boards throw numbers anywhere from 15A to 30A for the 12V rail. However, I haven't seen anyone quote any hard sources. My back of the envelope computations:
CPU: 89 W (max power from AMD's web site)
MEM: uses 3.3V
Floppy: uses 5V
CD: 20W
RAM: uses 3.3V
HD: 15W
Geforce2 GTS graphics card: 8W
which gives me about 132W on the 12V rail at maximum power usage (which - since I haven't done anything I doubt I've hit). This would be about 11 amps which is easily covered by my power supply. And - the 89W number form AMD is for all the Athlon64 chips of which the 3000 is the very low end so it's probably less than that.
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2) You may have faulty RAM & i would recommend running a memory testing program just to check that is ok.
Could the RAM be faulty even though I had a windows 2000 setup running reasonably well? The BIOS did do a memory check on each startup (I turned that on when I first installed the board).
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As for the system not booting now, sounds like you have a bad BIOS flash & that you will need to get the BIOS reflashed or RMA your motherboard.
I don't think this board supports reflashing - the chip is soldered onto the board. Any idea why the rescue procedure isn't working?

K8T Neo FSR Won't Boot!

Hello!
My system doesn't boot . It power all of the fans and disk. The Power and Hard Disk leds stay lit (no blinking) the D-Bracket shows 3 red leds and one green led (green is on the lower left). I try without any disk units, no cards (just my graphic card which I test on my P4 machine and is OK) and just 1 stick of ram. The sytem was working "normally" except for some sporadics blue screens and reboots and the no NVRAM thing and that my RAM gets automatically reset to 200 (that's why I try the 1.92B BIOS ver) Last thing I remember was flashing the 1.92B Bios using the windows utility and after that kaput! What can I do? are there any procedures to fix this or did I kill my mobo?
Any tips suggestions will be really apreciated, many thanks in advance.
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AMD Athlon 64 2800+
Markvision Value RAM DDR400 512 x 2
MSI GeForce4 Ti4200
Seagate Barracuda 80 GB
Old ACER CD-ROM 40x

Hi
The lower left led is inialising the Keyboard controller. ODD if nothing has been changed.
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But check the keyboard first.
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