K8T Neo-V, problems w/ savage agp video card (Stealth III S540)

Hi all
I have a K8T Neo-V mobo, 512 MB Kingston memory and a Stealth III S540 agp video card. The problem is that when I play any kind of video in my linux box it freezes completely the system, same thing with Windows Xp SP2. When i start Soldier of Fortune it hangs up the system. The agp card is quiet old, i know, could be this a problem with some BIOS setup like 'aperture size' and speed, and so on? Don't know about what this options means ???, maybe that's the source of the problem, who can give me some piece of advice about this, please. I'm considering getting a newer and faster agp card, but not in the near future.
Thank you

I am suprised a card that old even works as I thought those were for the original AGP setup that had different voltages.
I would really recommend grabing a newer card up and if you are just looking for a simple display maybe you can still find an old Ti4200 or such.

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in the period of time between 21st and 27th june."
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The video cards need at least 30A to make the card run properly. That's pretty damn easy to understand how the last PSU was the problem.
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