K8T Neo2 and Promise FastTrak 579

Hi,
I have K8T Neo2 and AMD Athlon 64 3200+, rest is not important.
By my procesor I must upgrade Bios to new version (3.2).
After reboot I see row with choice: DEL - to Bios, F2 - load RAID bios, ......
I go to mainboard bios to load default. After reboot when is looking for HDD its shown, than on SATA 237 isn't HDD (it is true)
on FAstTrak 579 is not bios!
How I can install bios for FastTrak 579 controller?
sorry for easy question, but I can't information about it.
Thank for answer.
Petr

Hi,
thanks.
One idea goes by my head:
Why when I firstly turn on (when I completed PC or after I upgrade motherboard bios) it show to me row: Press DEL to bios
F2 to load bios (I mean than it is for Promise 579)
F11 to ....
and when I press F2 something runs and pass
and after this how I restart PC after POST after detection HDD on Promise 579 it write only than HDD is not connected.
Message BIOS NOT INSTALLED was not shown.
When I upgrade bios I push DEL and I go to motherboard's setup and firstly I not push F2. By this I mean, than bios Promise 579 is not.
When I push TAB when Power On I can go to BIOS VT8237
When I push CTRL+F (it's go to bios Promise 579) - nothing reaction

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My questions are: is there a way to tell (from the name/item-code/prod number) which version "K8T Neo2" (code 6702-E) has the Promise controller onboard, and which not?
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Quote from: Tiresmoke on 09-April-05, 22:52:31
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=608&kind=1
I trslly would suggest first though to do a Bios reset and then re-examine the problems if any and let's see if we can track and sort them out.
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http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/6702E/memory.pdf
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=MSI+%28Micro+Star%29%2B+Motherboards&mfr=MSI+%28Micro+Star%29&cat=RAM&model=MS-6702E+%28K8T+Neo2-FIR%29&submit=Go
http://www.mushkin.com/epages/mushkin.storefront/EN/product/991140
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/Athlon_64_Unbuffered_DIMM_AVL.pdf
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