K8T NEO2 dual core upgrade problems

Hi Everyone hope someone can help here I have just purchased a dual core 4200 socket 939 for my 6702e it has been running fine on my 3200 the 4200 is the one with the 2 512k cache if that helps.
I have the latest bios through msi update think 9.40 so here is my issue. As I have stated this runs no problems at all with my single core 64xp but once I put the new processor in no boot or anything not even an error beep, all the indicator lights on the back panel go amber. I have cleared the cmos and installed 1 stick in the second purple slot 1 gig still nothing.
Any help would be appreciated and thanks in advance.

Quote from: HenryW on 28-March-08, 09:46:59
Is the X2 4200+ new or did you buy it used from eBay or some such? What does it show for BIOS version at the upper left when you boot the PC? I ask this just to confirm you do indeed have 9.4 BIOS.
Make a signature with PC information. Also include specs for PSU from label on it, see my sig. example of what info to provide. By making signature your specs will show in every post you make.
To create signature:
Click on PROFILE above (near top of this page) and then in your "Profile" what I show in red below, scroll down to "Signature" and enter your specs in the box and then click on "Change profile" button on the bottom.
Rebooted to make sure hehe yepper 9.4 bios
Also fixed signature to the best of my knowledge.
Thanks again for the reply and yes this is a used processor off of ebay reputable seller with no negatives so he has a DOA clause but just trying to trouble shoot this so I don't have egg on my face before I ship it back
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