K8T Neo2-F wont run CL2 timings?

I just purchased 2x512Mb Crucial Ballistix Ram (8-2-2-2) for my K8T Neo2-F.
When I try to run it at its SPD settings...It still keeps posting as CL2.5 on the Post screen (also varified as 2.5 using CPU-Z)
I have tried manually configuring the timings in the bios...as well as run SPD.
I also tried "auto" as well as the 2.7 and 2.8 for the memory voltage (2.8 is the Crucial specifications)
I have tried running the sticks in slots 1/3 and 2/4 (to maintain dual channel). No difference.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!

Hate to disagree, but I have the same problem (same mobo, different ram: http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/khx3200ulk2_1g.pdf )
Funny thing is that plenty of reviewers have managed to overclock this while leaving the timings at 2-2-2-5-1 on an AMD64 system.
So shouldn't I at least be able run at the stock speeds without reducing timings? Seems to me that it's a problem with the motherboard.

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K8t Neo2 won't run dual channel with Opteron 165

Hi,
I have a K8t Neo 2, and was running a Newcastle 3500+ on it, with 2x1GB PC3200 memory sticks (Buffalo memory) in dual channel mode (ie DIMM 1 and DIMM 3 populated) without any problems. I replaced the 3500+ with a new Opteron 165, and the system would not post. One of the red lights on the D-bracket was red, the rest were out.
To troubleshoot, I removed one of the memory sticks, and the system booted fine. I then put the 2nd memory stick in a non-dual channel setup (DIMM 1 and DIMM 2 populated), and it booted fine. If I try booting the system with the RAM in any dual channel enabled configuration, it will not post. I verified that it isn't a RAM issue, because I have 2 sticks of 512 MB ShikaXRam, which has always worked fine, and I got the same behavior as I got with the Buffalo RAM. I have tried changing the RAM clocking in the BIOS, and that also doesn't help, because it seems it reads the speed automatically no matter what you set the DRAM clocking page to.
Does anyone have any suggestions? Is this board not Opteron 165 compatible with dual channel memory?

Alright, I tried all of the steps mentioned, setting optimized defaults, even tried changing all memory timings to the most conservative available. The only way the system will boot with 2 DIMMs installed is if they are in the two slots furthest from the CPU. It will also post with 3 DIMMs installed in any configuration.
I also have a generic 500 w PSU that is rated 32a on the 12v rail that I tried quickly plugging in (just plugged the 2 PSU connectors to the motherboard without hooking any of the IDE devices to it) It still exhibits the same behaviour. With no hard drives, optical drives, etc plugged in, wouldn't that pretty much eliminate the PSU as an issue?
I don't want to just spend $100 on a new PSU if it's highly unlikely to be the issue. Does this sound like something I'd need to replace the motherboard to fix? Is the performance difference between dual channel and single channel enough to even warrant buying a new board? The reason I want to avoid replacing the board right now is because I still have an AGP card, and don't want to replace it right now as well as the board, and getting another AGP based board seems to be stupid. Also, AGP boards are really hard to find now, and most of them available locally run on the ULi chipset

K8T NEO2 F; overclocking impossible

got a K8T NEO2 F board, a winchester 3200+ cpu, twin CMX512-4400 CL2.5 memory, ati 9800pro graphics, Thermaltake Silent Purepower 680watt psu and Maxtor sata harddrives. i've got bios 9.1.
when I try to overclock the most I can get is FSB at 207.. when I try at 210 my system boots but reboots after a short time. the cpu overclocks to FSB 235 on my beloved K8N NEO4-F. My memory runs without problems up to 250mhz (500ddr).
How do I overclock this board?

since last time I have swapped my motherboard without any luck. still no overclocking possible. in the cellmenu i have tried just about everything; raised ram voltage, raised cpu voltage, lowered ram speed to 166mhz, raised memory timings,.... without any luck.
Name AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Code Name Winchester
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
Family / Model / Stepping F F 0
Extended Family / Model F 1F
Brand ID 4
Package Socket 939
Core Stepping DH8-D0
Technology 0.09 µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, x86-64
CPU Clock Speed 2000.1 MHz
Clock multiplier x 10.0
HTT Bus Frequency 200.0 MHz
L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Cache 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 2000.1 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 128 bits
Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer MSI
Motherboard model MS-6702E, 1.0
BIOS vendor American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS revision 080011
BIOS release date 06/08/2005
Chipset VIA K8T800 Pro rev. 00
Southbridge VIA VT8237 rev. 00
Sensor chip Winbond W83627THF
Graphic Interface AGP
AGP Status enabled, rev. 3.0
AGP Data Transfer Rate 8x
AGP Max Rate 8x
AGP Side Band Addressing supported, enabled
AGP Aperture Size 256 MBytes
Memory
DRAM Type DDR-SDRAM
DRAM Size 1024 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 200.0 MHz
FSB:DRAM CPU/10
CAS# Latency 3.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge 3 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 8 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (TRC) 11 clocks
DRAM Idle Timer 16 clocks
# of memory modules 2
Module 0 Kingston DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
Module 1 Kingston DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX version 9.0c

Dual channel memory mixing on a K8T Neo2

Hey all,
I have a K8T Neo2, Winchester core 3000+ and had it running with 2 TwinMOS 512 MB-DDR400 sticks in dual-channel mode. Recently I decided to add RAM, but to invest in a more solid brand. So I bought a Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2 set and plugged it in. AFAIK the right combination in the board would be the have one set in slots 1 & 3 and the other set in 2 & 4. So far the board will only post with the Corsairs in 1 & 3 (and not with the Twinnies there). But if it posts, the clock is set to 333 MHz (which is an issue of the Winchester core I understood), but more importantly the system becomes unstable: reboots etc. Even stranger is the fact that sometimes after POST I get 8 beeps from the BIOS, which suggests that the Video RAM or framebuffer is defective. Is this somehow related to the RAM I installed? Is the framebuffer mapped to the RAM at bootup for example?
I did try to change the command rate to 2T, didn't seem to help. Bios version is 3.3 by the way. Thanks for any help.
Oh maybe the vid card specs are also relevant: Sapphire Radeon 9800 pro with 128mb. Power supply is Tagan 580W so unlikely to be the problem

Quote from: Tiresmoke on 03-November-05, 23:54:30
Have you tested each stick of RAM with Memtest86 yet? You may have a bad stick. You also may want to try the new set in a different socket sety. Another words if it was in 2/4 then try it in 1/3. If the timings are different on the two sets try setting to the slowest settings of the two. You may have to exchange the set for the twin to the old set just to make it work as mixing RAM rarely works well.
Good idea on the memtesting, I'll do that tonight. I was afraid that the mixing wouldn't work well, but I thought at least if for each channel I used the same pair it wouldn't matter. Practice might indeed prove that as being a wrong assumption

Nvidia FX5900 Does it work with K8T Neo2-FIR??

I'm considering upgrading my old Ti 4400 to a new FX5900 card. Can anyone tell me if this card works properly in the K8T Neo2-FIR??

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The 6600/6800/X800 series all have newer implimentations of the latest graphics programming and hardware. Buying an older card is OK if money is the only answer and you can even find the older cards cheap enough to matter. However by going with an older feneration card you are getting older generation utility as well. At some point that will come back to haunt you. Even if you don't play games or such that use the newer features now, it is pretty certain that any newer software you may want in the not to distance future will run better on the newer series card than something that is already outdated
ok, to bring the discussion to a funny point :D
1: you forgot the FX series was the last card using the best and unoptimised Anisotropic filtering
2: the shader3.0 model is nearly the same crap the shader2.0 was for the Fx series :D try playing the latest splinter cell with sm3.0 and soft shadows and tell me the fps you get
if you play games like ut2004, hl2 (with the FX shader fix to use the good looking water) then a FX 5900ultra works good enough
if you only need power without thinking about the image quality, which includes the very nice optimised ati-AF then get a Gf 6 series card.
at the beginning i wanted to update my card too coz of the shader model2.0 limitation, but now i wont. too often i compared the rendered quality and the FX always won, so i wait for a card that doesnt need to use "hardware" or "driver" "optimizations" :D - cheater

3x LDT with HTT over 270 on k8t neo2

Hello
this is a question for k8t neo2 owners (Via k8t800 pro). Did someone tried to set the LDT multiplier to 3x (600mhz) whith HTT over 270? I have a asus A8V motherboard and the 3x multiplier dosent work above 270 HTT. I just want to know if this is an asus bug or a chipset limitation?
thanks

Your processor, like mine, is probably flaking out and limiting your OC. I'm slowly learning that the nforce is the way to go, higher OC's with tighter memory timings. If you haven't already, go download a copy of clockgen and find the top speeds you can acheive with your memory and CPU frequencies. First; adjust your divider so that your processor has the higher ratio, then use clockgen to inch up the speed until it BSOD's (adjust speed, run a program to test stability), this will give your max CPU HTT speed. Then set your divider to 1:1 and do the same thing, this will give you your max memory speed, unless you reach your CPU cap before your memory goes. You've most likely already done this but if you haven't, you can now. My CPU flaked out at about 237mhz and I couldn't reach my memory cap but all the reviews I've read put it close to 260mhz. (Yes I was sure to make sure voltages and temps were adequate) Good Luck!

Kingston HyperX 2x 512MB + MSI K8T Neo2 + 3200 Winchester = SERIOUS ISSUE

OK, so thats the spec:
Microstar K8T Neo2
Kingston HyperX DDR 2x 512MB PC-400 (KHX3200ULK2/1G) CL2 (producer's timings : 2-2-2-5-1)
AMD 64 3200 Winchester core CPU
And here's the problem, watch out - its gonna get real wierd from now on :D
First setup: Green Slot 1 + Purpule Slot 1 = system dead
Second: Green 2 + Purp 2 = system dead
Third: Green 2, only one dice installed and heres what happend: It booted (wow!) but.. the system recognizes it as a 256 dice !! I've triple chcecked, its a double sided 512 module! When I insert both modules into green1 and green2 the system sees only 512 megs while it obvioulsly should see 1 GB !
I have totally NO IDEA whats going one. The memory modules had been chcecked on a dual channel Nforce2 with a Barton CPU and it works perfectly at peak timings with the proper memory ammount.
I ask You, what the hell is going on ?

Interestingly enough I have exactly the opposit issue.
With BIOS 3.0 my system detected all the memory.
I updated to 3.2 and now it only detects 1/2 my memory. I tried all the slot swaping same issue.
I've downgraded to BIOS 3.0 and my system randomly shuts off.
K8T Neo2
AMD 64 3000+ Winchster
SimpleTech Dual Channel PC3200 2x512mb DDR400 DoubleSided

MSI K8T Neo2-FIR: No fan control since BIOS 3.3?

Hi!
First my system:
MSI K8T Neo2-FIR (BIOS 3.3)
Athlon64 3000+ Winchester (with Arctic Freezer 64)
Connect3D Radeon 9700 (Zalman Hetapipe)
2x512 MB MDT RAM CL2.5 PC3200 (DIMM1+3)
Terratec Cinergy TV400
PSU Chill Innovation CP-510A (Click for output ratings)
Since BIOS V3.3 Speedfan (V 4.20) is not able to reduce the rpm of the CPU-Fan (of course connected to CFAN1). Before flashing BIOS 3.2, it worked well (CPU

Quote from: Zipfelklatscher on 27-January-05, 16:10:52
Hi!
First my system:
MSI K8T Neo2-FIR (BIOS 3.3)
Athlon64 3000+ Winchester (with Arctic Freezer 64)
Connect3D Radeon 9700 (Zalman Hetapipe)
2x512 MB MDT RAM CL2.5 PC3200 (DIMM1+3)
Terratec Cinergy TV400
PSU Chill Innovation CP-510A (Click for output ratings)
Since BIOS V3.3 Speedfan (V 4.20) is not able to reduce the rpm of the CPU-Fan (of course connected to CFAN1). Before flashing BIOS 3.2, it worked well (CPU < 40°C = Fan spins with 60%). After flashing BIOS 3.3 (because it resolves the problem with USB legacy and WindowsXP), Speedfan (and Corecenter) do not reduce die fan power. If i stay a while in the BIOS, i can hear, how the fan runs lower and lower. But under windows the fan runs on full power.
I have this problem too.
I don't have ability to change speed fan for CPU, and then I have 60 degrees on full load.
When I setup in CoreCenter utility to user mode and fan to high speed, as if by miracle on cpu fan speed change from 1600 to 2400,
but now it's on 1600 again and setup in core center dont't make any change on speed fan.
Is it OK in bios 3.2 ? with setup speed on cpu ?

With MSI K8T NEO2 FIR Mb (help)

Hi.
I need some help....!
My computer contains:
AMD64 3500+ (130nm, Newcastle) socket 939
MSI K8T NEO2 FIR Hovedkort for S939 K8T800PRO
Kingston PC3200 HyperX DDR 1024MB CL2 Non-ECC Ultra Low Latency (2-2-2-5-1)
Gainward GeForce 6800GT 256MB GS GDDR3 AGP, "Ultra/2400 Golden Sample"
9 X Western Digital HD's
2 X Nec dvd-burning-r
A Gainward psu. (delivers "+3,3=28a" "+5=45a" "+12=20a" and a total of 550W)
I think I have a power problem... because the "+12" has a rather low number for this kind of system... and the BIOS is showing me that the "+12" reading is -- 11,42V -- This is idle in BIOS... and I got the same reading in Win... (idle)
The first thing I thought of was to disable as many disk's/cd-drives as I was able to... the only thing I have left is C: BUT!! the bios and windows gives me the same reading of the "+12" 11,42V.
Both +3,3 and +5 are on the + side.
The main problem is when I ex starts a game or a benchmark prog... Like HL2,battlefield,War3,3dmarks,Prime95 + + + the pc shuts down, or the prog/game won't run properly.... Kind of irritating!!!
Do anybody have any experience with this kind of problem?!?!?! I need help!
I thought of buying the OCZ 520w psu.... Does it solve the problem?
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/power_management/ocz_powerstream_power_supply
This psu should give me these specs:
520W:
+3.3V(28A)
+5V(40A)
+12V(33A)
Many Thanks for your help!!
regards.
Kris

Prime95 version 23.8.1 is my first choice, I run the torture test in blend mode because it uses lots of ram, very sensitive to errors. Pure math computataions and matched against known results.
I also use Hot Cpu tester Pro 4.2.2, they do have a free version as well it tests alot of different cpu instructions as well as memory simultaniously as well as doing a burn-in. Faster than Prime, nice when your overclocking since you can see what is failing sse instructions for example, then you can either up the cpu voltage or ram voltage depending on the test or back off the oc a bit.Used it alot with my old Barton 2500 rig.
I've seen a third program used on some of the overclocking sites Superpi. I believe, lol, been meaning to bookmark and try it myself. I imagine it's used to quickly detect memory errors as well as being a benchmark without stressing components.
This board isn't made for overclocking kind of useless without a working agp/pci lock. Sata corruption over 220 fsb so I've been content with using the first 2 programs to tweak my memory settings and test for stability.
Yeah I noticed that too when I set the DDR to 400 the bios will override the Cas being set to 2 and run it at 2.5 My board doesn't freeze when saving it though. I leave it set at 2.5 in the bios and use A64Tweaker to manually set the Cas to 2 in windows it works fine that way and is easily verified with cpuz or everest. Personally I don't trust using spd in the bios and prefer to manually set all the timing to the manufacturers recommended settings. *edit* I also forgot to mention to when you check your ram manufacturer's website to see if the sticks of ram are capably of Command Rate 1T(CR) some can't other can only if one stick is being used. You may need to set the Dram 1T timing to disable, sorry about that

MSI K8t neo2 audio problems..

Hello fokes, i've got issues with the onboard soundcard, it wont play any bass at all, its like the sound from a "kitchenradio".
The SoundEffect thingie that is located under Control Panel does only change the bass in winamp, and nothing else...I've got the newest soundcard drivers..
Help needed, i wanna listen to my sweet tunes

Sorry, i forgot all about that.
AMD64 3000+ I believe thats a Winchester
Hitachi 160gb sata disc
Twinmos 512 Dual channelkit
hm what else...oh right, the motherboard
MSI K8T Neo2-FIR
Antec TruePower 380W PSU
Cant check the volts right now due to poor lightning
dont know about the memory timings, i will go check in a while
I've updated all drivers with LiveUpdate..

K8T Neo2 - Problem with AGP frequency...

Hi there.
I am a proud(?) owner of the K8T Neo2 motherboard. This is the "pro" version, with the supposedly working AGP lock. But it is not working at ALL.
If I set the AGP frequency to 66, my computer wont boot. With or without overclock, it just wont boot. I have the latest BIOS, the 3.3 version, still - nothing.
I really want to overclock some, but an FSB of ~215 (preferably below if I want it to be stable in windows) is as far as I can go.
Please tell me if there is any way I can fix this. Please tell me that I've missed some important BIOS setting and it will all work out for the best.
My other hardware include a 360W chieftek PSU, a radeon 9800 pro and a winchester 3500+.

Yeah, the agp is not working and I've tried just about everything. I've flashed the bios with an update and all that crap. I know the agp bus isn't locked because the system does not boot at any htt above ~220 mhz and if it does boot it is very unstable and crashes. And, when I oc in windows, agp disables itself with high ocs. There was one time when the agp somehow stayed locked and I was able to run solid at 2.5 ghz. I have no idea how it stayed locked and it should be able to stay locked with the 66 MHZ AGP LOCK selected in the bios.
I haven't contacted msi yet because I've had the worst experience with tech support. Seems like they all just got out of kindergarten or something and were programmed to say "destructive reformat" for any question you gave them. "Hi, how do I manually install video drivers?" "INSERT YOUR LEGAL WINDOWS XP DISK AND RUN A DESTRUCTIVE REFORMAT." "Hi, I have conceived a worm thanks to windows awesome seccurity flaws." "DESTRUCTIVE REFORMAT." "My computer locked me out for windows activation and I can't seem to unlock it." "WINDOWS IS FLAWLESS, YOU MUST BE IN POSSESSION OF AN ILLEGAL COPY, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND NUMBER AND GO BUY A NEW COPY."

K8T-Neo2 (939) mobo + RAM problem

Hi there..sorry if this is covering old ground with this mobo but here goes :(
I've had my MSI board for about a year and a half now running with 1gig(2x512mB) of Hynix PC3200 DDR400 SDRAM. I've recently decided to upgrade to 2gigs of ram and after fiddling with a 1gig stick that didn't want to work I grabbed another pair of Hynix 512mB sticks. I've tried all manner of configurations to get all four DIMMs working but to no avail. When the ram is placed old_old_new_new i get a fail to POST and a top left Green light on the diode with three reds (does that make sense) which means early chipset initialisation according to the manual.
When I place old_new_old_new the machine POSTS, gets to the windows loading screen, then goes black, flicks and stalls.
I've followed the instructions in the manual but it pretty much says I should be able to place the *identical* sticks in all 4 DIMMs without a problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated :( :(
System:
MSI K8T-Neo2 939 (BIOS 3.30)
AMD Athlon64 3000+
Antec 350W PSU
Hynix PC3200 DDR400 SDRAM (currently works with 2x512mB)
Hope thats enough information..

Several things.
You may have the wrong Bios for your CPU core but to determine that we need to know which Bios and CPU core you have.
Your PSU is way to lite to handle the load. You need 24 or more amps on the 12v rail and no 300w will have that.
You can not use three sticks of ram ever on this dual channel board. Actually it is the CPU that forces that limit as the memory controller is inside of the CPU. You can use 1, 2, or 4 sticks but never 3.
Memory should be matched and 4 sticks can force you to run at DDR333 so best to go with 2 - 1gb sticks in any case.
Mixing Memory make and model rarely works as each model will have somewhat different chips and timings. Stay with memory that is match for dual channel to work right.

BIOS problems with K8T Neo2

K8T Neo2, AMD64 3400, 2x 512 3200 DDR (slots 1 & 3), PNY nVidia Quadro FX500, WD Caviar 60GB.
The system will not boot (cold or warm) without first clearing the BIOS via the JBAT. If I try to restart the system, the LED panel shows four red (processor error). If I clear the CMOS, it will post then say that there was an error in the BIOS. It will then ask if I want to enter the setup (F1) or load defaults and continue (F2). If I go into the setup, make any changes (even just the date and time) and restart the system, it won't post until I clear the CMOS again.
The owner is getting fed up and is threatening to go buy a Dell, so any help would be very much appreciated!!!
- Justin

Pete,
Quote from: Pete67890 on 16-March-05, 07:53:07
Not sure how good the beta version is, after flashing I am unable to get the system to post.
Have you tried bootblock-programming, as described somewhere on MSI website? FDD is needed for that.
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Talked with MSI and they are sending me another board and instructed me to re-flash with the same file (3.34). Apparently it resolves an issue with endusers using an AMD 64 3400+ chip
This is a CPU that is intended to be sold to OEMs like HP/Medion only. It runs only with 600MHz HTT. Maybe you should ask your dealer to replace that with a retail CPU, e.g. 3200+ with Winchester Core.
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and more importantly (see my thread) will fix my problem of not being able to save CMOS settings.
That might be a problem related to the "wrong" CPU, IMHO.
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*One other note, MSI said that I need to change the front side bus to 800 for these processors not 1000 as the default would have it.... If its not changed the system wont post.
Indeed - had you been able to enter BIOS setup previously? If yes, then try flashing BIOS 3.30 using the Boot Block method and set your HTT to 800. Maybe then you will be able to save your BIOS settings.
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If you still want the file, I could send it to you, but use it at your own risk..just post your email.
I am still interested, just use the "PM"-or Mail-button on the left. Thanks in advance.
Greets,
Michael

MSI K8T Neo2 F vs. MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR

Hi there !
I have an amd Athlon XP 3200+ overheating problem, and contacted the technical support of the shop where the processor and CPU was coming from.
Since they do not have any XP 3200+ to replace mine, they propose me to replace fro free :
- the XP 3200+ by an AMD Athlon 64 3200+
- my actual MSI K7N2 delta ILSR by an MSI K8T Neo2 F
... and this for free.
Since I do not know this new motherboard that has been proposed, I'd like to have advice on if this is a good deal ?!?
My actual system has :
- an Aluminium case with 2x 12cm FAN's
- 2 IDE hard drives
- 1 SATA hard drive
- TWINX Corsair XMS 2x256MB PC 3200L (Extreme low latency)
- an AGP 8x video card
- An Antec True Power 480W.
will the new motherboard fit with this configuration?
Many thanks for your input !

Not really, unless you really want to oc your cpu. The K8T boards aren't that good in OC-ing. But still, some is possible and you'll be sure that the board is as steady as a rock.
For a moment I thought you were talking about a Neo board ... but I just saw it's a Neo2. That means Socket 939 -> dual channel RAM.
The only risk you have now, is that your RAM won't work in dual channel with the CPU. But that's not really a board-problem, more a CPU/RAM-controller related problem. But then, it's still a great offer and chances are good that it will work. If you run into any trouble, RAM-related, just flash bios to version 1.9 and you will probably be just fine.

MSI K8T Neo2 F 939 pin, any known video or other driver issues?

Using a MSI K8T Neo2 F, AMD 64 3500+ winchestor, 1gb DDR400 3200 memory, New WD 740GD SATA HDD, ATI 9800 GT Pro 256 videocard. Fresh XP Pro SP2 install with all the update, latest Via 4 in 1s.
Seems like my problems began when I upgraded video drivers to either Cat 4.9s or 5.1s (ATI Radeon 9800 GT Pro 256) in order to get Doom3 running as it wouldn't run on the v 3.4 drivers that came on the cd-rom with the videocard.
HL2 would play fine with those old drivers. After upgrading to newer drivers, HL2 and Doom 3 (which now at least plays) won't play for more than 5 minutes yet other games will. The same videocard (perhaps 3 months old now) with cat 4.9 drivers ran perfectly in my old system so I know the videocard's still OK.
I can use a restore point prior to installing the newer drivers BUT that doesn't solve the problem as to why I can't use the newer drivers.
I've heard where some have problems with XP SP2 vs SP1. Anyone here have opinions on that?
I have spare HDDs so I can use one with another fresh XP install, even try just SP1 if that'd matter? Doing that would eliminate hardware as being an issue.
It's now not just games either, it'll crash doing Turbotax and other (not demanding) times when not gaming. Games put alot of demand on any system.
Have also tryed another PSU, now an Antec Truepower 430W vs a cheaper brand 550W. Not heat related as I've tryed this with a house fan blowing on high directly at the mobo, cpu side (cover's off).
I've been trying to solve this for about a month now and it's very annoying.
I ran Memtest for 8 hours last night, no errors so the memory's OK. I'm now running another test program called Prime95 via advice from someone at Anandtech.com. http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=32&threadid=1513208
If ANYONE here has seen anything like this relating to this motherboard (which I suspect might be a problem?), please share your thoughts.
Thanks

Can you explain where I'll find "VPU recover (adapter settings)"? In display settings or ATIs cat. control center, guessing? I'm at work now but will check that soon.
AGP fast-write has been off.
As for going back to older video drivers, it did seem OK with the old Cat. v3.4 drivers that came on the videocards driver cd-rom and played HL2 fine with those drivers HOWEVER, Doom3 doesn't run with those older drivers and needs the newer drivers to function.
When it crashes, the screen usually goes to black (not BSOD). Sometimes it'll just freeze with skipping sound for a few seconds before going black, sometimes it'll reboot but usually I just reboot it. Can't 3 finger solute to task manager or Esc out of it either.

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